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  1. Caller

    Does a God of ANY KIND exist?

    I don't see why not. Complications are only as existent as humans can view them. Also I'll get round to answering our other round during the weekend - I barely go here as it is, and I'd rather not have it get in the way of school work. Either way I answer.
  2. Caller

    Does a God of ANY KIND exist?

    agnostic –noun 1. a person who holds that the existence of the ultimate cause, as God, and the essential nature of things are unknown and unknowable, or that human knowledge is limited to experience. 2. a person who denies or doubts the possibility of ultimate knowledge in some area of study...
  3. Caller

    Does a God of ANY KIND exist?

    Haha. Why not. That's the universal ace in the hole.
  4. Caller

    Does a God of ANY KIND exist?

    Just for the sake staying on topic, shouldn't there be another topic for morals & ethics? This is a topic for the existence of God, not his wills.
  5. Caller

    Does a God of ANY KIND exist?

    Useless was a bit of an exaggeration. I can't believe it gives us an accurate depiction of how we can live, should live and did live. Even the smallest bit of information can change everything. I'll look it up some time :0
  6. Caller

    Does a God of ANY KIND exist?

    Fair enough, I can understand pride. That's what you assume. Those in power seem to be the only ones benefitting from these morals. We can't defend ourselves from people who attack us anymore, all due to the distorion of the obsessiveness over morality. I've said this already in that an...
  7. Caller

    Does a God of ANY KIND exist?

    It's quite possible. However, it's quite possible to say that because we're the only ones who're actually sentient beings that those packs will simply stay packs. I believe it to have been the basic building ground for society however, rather than ethics or morals. As we evolved, we would have...
  8. Caller

    Does a God of ANY KIND exist?

    So neither is it particularly useful. Yes, they do. This is because they act and depend on each other for their own survival. I wouldn't call it a moral, simply a survival instinct. Some travel in packs and live together, some live alone. It's not hard to say that humans were either, though I...
  9. Caller

    Does a God of ANY KIND exist?

    Maybe so. I doubt that we have in depth records that detail every single occurence and happening at the time though, unless of course we do. Ever still, this doesn't prove that morals began before religion.
  10. Caller

    Religion

    Hello Vlad c:
  11. Caller

    Does a God of ANY KIND exist?

    Paper, or whatever they used, is not immune to the forces of time, humans, nature or neglect. Unless, of course, you know of an immortal paper-esque material and a liquid which never wears away. I'm finding it difficult to think of immortal paper.
  12. Caller

    Does a God of ANY KIND exist?

    Um. Yes. Middle Eastern religions specifically were created much further back than any christian or jew could remember, even if they were there for their own religion's birth. Organised religion is ridiculously old, I can assure you.
  13. Caller

    Does a God of ANY KIND exist?

    You seem to be fairly one sided, though. However, suggestions that murder and stealing are ration actions are not something I would deem surprising. Which is the same thing I have been saying - morals are there to keep order and for certain people to reach total control. I don't believe that...
  14. Caller

    Does a God of ANY KIND exist?

    How can you say that? As far as I'm aware, you aren't aware of perfect. You, along with every other human, do not know what perfect is. You're still talking with the narrow "This is right, this is wrong" absolutism that I've shown is simply shallow perception. You weren't there for the...
  15. Caller

    Does a God of ANY KIND exist?

    Why not? It's pretty logical, and as far as I can tell there's little reason to turn from it other than the desire to cling to the organization of religion. edit: excuse double post.
  16. Caller

    Does a God of ANY KIND exist?

    Yeah morals exist. They're manmade though, why follow something that is something that wouldn't be perfect in the universe? Human perception is pretty shallow and narrow. You have a point, but a cause to progress to a goal seems significantly more likely, as religion stretches further back than...
  17. Caller

    Does a God of ANY KIND exist?

    They mustn't have always been common sense. If we had "do not murder" centuries ago, humans wouldn't have survived as long as they have. We only agree that murdering is universally wrong because it helps support the cause of a working society. The concept of a working society is subject to...
  18. Caller

    Does a God of ANY KIND exist?

    Those aren't common sense. Commonc sense is what we identify as 'universally absolute'. They must have started somewhere - religion seems a plausable starting point, correct?
  19. Caller

    Does a God of ANY KIND exist?

    If we follow the path of evolution, morals must logically be manmade. Apes don't wake up and suddenly go "Killing this isn't that nice, you know.". Human intelligence evolved over time, reaching the point at which it can create organisation. What better way to keep a group in line than to create...
  20. Caller

    Does a God of ANY KIND exist?

    I don't believe in God. Somehow I find the belief in a metaphysical transcendant being to be fairly difficult to follow. Don't believe in morals. Religion made them, Religion made God, Religion therefore can't be trusted in my books - morals must follow.
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