The Omskivar vs TruetoCheese

Zhorken said:

Another ref test battle, this time for Knuddeluff. As usual, we'll need one advanced/elite ref to oversee things, and one other battler, preferrably a newbie.

2vs2 Single
Style: Switch
DQ: One week
Damage Cap: 40%
Banned Moves: None
Terrain: ASB Central Stadium

Although designed to be a state-of-the-art battling facility and located at the very heart of ASB Central's battle district, ASB Central Stadium actually sees very little use. Most battlers prefer the infinite variety of the holodrome's simulated arenas to the basic, if impressive, stadium field, and official tournaments tend to feature tours of other regions rather than a homefield brawl. There is one advantage to the stadium, though--its proximity to the holodrome grants it access to a full range of simulation options, allowing trainers to trick out their team to whatever extent they like before battling.

There's nothing much to say about the battlefield: it's a large, rectangular arena covered in astroturf. A circular pool will open in its center if a Pokémon requiring water to move around in is sent out. In this arena, Pokémon can summon absolutely anything they need for their attacks: tidal waves, boulders, and so on are in ready supply.

Other: This battle takes place between a referee and one other member. The referee will use their own team of Pokémon, but the other battler may choose either to use their own team OR choose any six nonlegendary Pokémon with any items and abilities to use for this fight. In the former case, their Pokémon gain experience as normal. In the latter case, they may choose to apply the experience earned by their rental Pokémon, minus one point, to their team in any manner that they choose.

The prizes for this battle are $20 to the winner, $10 to the loser, and $15 to the referee. This battle does not fill a battle slot for the mentoring referee.

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[size=+2]The Omskivar vs TruetoCheese[/size]

The Omskivar's active squad

Frankie the male Nidoran♂ <Poison Point>
Grockle the male Lotad <Swift Swim>
Jaffacake the male Duskull <Levitate> @ Reaper Cloth
Sinestro the male Cacnea <Sand Veil> @ Chilan Berry
Bronn the male Chespin <Bulletproof> @ Lucky Egg
Drogon the male Tyrunt <Strong Jaw>
Marilyn the male Gothita <Competitive> @ Lucky Egg
Grognak the male Cubone <Rock Head>
Methuselah the male Chingling <Levitate> @ Soothe Bell
Abigail & Amelia Gabble the female Binacle <Tough Claws> @ Lucky Egg


TruetoCheese's active squad

Madeline the female Skorupi <Battle Armor>
Prickles the male Cacnea <Sand Veil>
No Brainer the female Psyduck <Cloud Nine>
Bilberry the female Poliwag <Water Absorb>
Coulomb the male Pichu <Static>
Rathian the female Noibat <Infiltrator>
Cuttler the male Inkay <Contrary>
Nosada the female Honedge <No Guard>
Pants! the male Scraggy <Shed Skin>
Bram Stoker the male Zubat <Inner Focus>

TruetoCheese sends out first!
Then The Omskivar sends out and orders attacks!
Then TruetoCheese orders!
Then I regret taking something like this on so close to my exams!
Then I ref.

Alright, sending out Pants!



Alright, buddy, it may be your first battle, but remember, winning is not the priority. We have to make Knuffle's reffing life a living hell. Let's party.

Let's try out Bronn, the Chespin.

Worry Seed, Toxic and then Super Fang. If there's a Protect up, or there's some other reason (barring Substitute) that you can't hit Pants, use Bulk Up, and if you're Taunted, use Power-Up Punch, then Low Sweep, then another Power-Up Punch. Remember, if there are clones, aim for the one with a shadow!

Worry Seed/Bulk Up/Power-Up Punch~Toxic/Bulk Up/Low Sweep~Super Fang/Bulk Up/Power-Up Punch

Alrighty, Pants! Pull up those, uh, namesakes, we've got work to do.

So, we'd much like to keep our ability to shed our skin, it's kind of necessary for survival and all that(so is sleep, actually), so throw up a 10% Substitute to keep errything at bay. If I'm reading Omski's orders right, Bronn should be Toxicing and Super Fanging anyway, so take the initiative and Super Fang his face off first! And then, since we've hit the damage cap, wait and Taunt him, so he'll hopefully be Taunted for the whole of next round.


Substitute(10%) ~ Super Fang ~ Wait and Taunt

2vs2 Single
Style: Switch
DQ: One week
Damage Cap: 40%
Banned Moves: None
Terrain: ASB Central Stadium

Although designed to be a state-of-the-art battling facility and located at the very heart of ASB Central's battle district, ASB Central Stadium actually sees very little use. Most battlers prefer the infinite variety of the holodrome's simulated arenas to the basic, if impressive, stadium field, and official tournaments tend to feature tours of other regions rather than a homefield brawl. There is one advantage to the stadium, though--its proximity to the holodrome grants it access to a full range of simulation options, allowing trainers to trick out their team to whatever extent they like before battling.

There's nothing much to say about the battlefield: it's a large, rectangular arena covered in astroturf. A circular pool will open in its center if a Pokémon requiring water to move around in is sent out. In this arena, Pokémon can summon absolutely anything they need for their attacks: tidal waves, boulders, and so on are in ready supply.

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Pants! kicked things off, he closed his eyes tight and started to clear his throat. He squinted and his entire body tensed, whatever he was coughing up was going to be big. His stomach bulged a little, something was concentrating there, and, once the bulge stopped growing, it began to travel slowly up his body. Once the mass squeezed up his throat and into his mouth, he began to swish it side to side, shaping the mass with his tongue. He, then, opened his mouth wide, slowly letting the unintelligible mass ooze out of his mouth. Pants! hopped backwards, letting the mass unfold. The thing was vaguely Scraggy shaped, it definitely wouldn't be mistaken for a Scraggy by anyone with half of a brain.

Bronn squinted at the mass, did Pants! do something with his hair? He shrugged, whether or not Pants! did do anything with his hair didn't affect his next move. Typically, Chespin fur is thick enough to accidentally pick up a number of seeds and nuts, it helps during periods of famine to find a seed nestled in your armpit. Anyhow, Bronn started to pick through his fur, trying to find one particular seed. He was certain that he'd have passed by a Chesto bush and picked up a seed at some point. After a couple of seconds of searching, he finally found the seed he was looking for! Licking the seed up into his mouth, he turned his attention back to the Scraggy. Pants! just didn't look right, there was something wrong, it must be his hair... He decided to go through with his attack regardless of how unsure he was about whether or not the thing was Pants! or not. Bronn spat the seed at the Scraggy-looking thing. Immediately it sprouted, its roots digging deep into the thing's nervous system, preventing any sleep. Too bad the thing was just a mass of cells and not Pants! who was grinning just behind it.

Pants! stared at Bronn, dumbfounded. Did he really just fall for it? As implausible as it seemed, yes, he did fall for it. With a shrug and a 'whadda ya gonna do?' expression plastered on his face, he moved on to his next move. He opened his mouth wide again, revealing that his front tooth was much longer than his other teeth. Like, much longer. Think Timmy Turner from Fairly Odd Parents times by 10. He let it rest out of his mouth, the thin layer of saliva glistening in the sun. Pants! then charged forward, opening his mouth again, letting the freakishly long front tooth sort of point in the direction of his run. As he approached Bronn, he jumped forward, his loose skin-pants flapping in the wind. And then CHOMP. Pants! bit down into Bronn's shoulder, causing the Chespin to cry out in pain. Sweat broke out on Pants!'s brow as he felt the energy sap from his body. He twisted around, causing Bronn more pain, and kicked off from the Chespin, pushing him away. As Bronn landed, he skidded back a couple of inches. He grinned toothily, well, how could he not with that monster of a tooth?

Bronn glared. His face glowing red in anger. That really hurt! But...wait. There were two Pants!s? He rubbed his eyes with his cute, little paws and looked again. Yep, there were indeed two Pants!s! One looked a lot like a Scraggy, just with a really large front tooth and one looked nothing like a Scraggy, just really a blob with the general shape right. But Bronn couldn't remember, which one was real? Was it the Scraggy-shaped blob or the Scraggy? After about a second and a half, he had realised he had spent too long trying to decipher between the two of them and it was time to just attack. He closed his eyes tightly and began to concentrate. All of the toxins in his body began to congregate in his stomach, forming an awful liquid-y mess of purple goop. This wasn't complete yet, nosiree, you see it was missing the key ingredient; phlegm. Bronn started to make some of the most disgusting throat clearing noises you have ever heard. Seriously, like you were in a room filled with lots of 80 year old men and they were all clearing their throats at once. As the ball of phlegm reached his mouth, he did the unthinkable, he swallowed it. The ball of green falling into his stomach and mixing with the toxic, purple goop. Bronn then confidently posed, and then stuck one of his little paws down his throat. He started to breathe heavily as a visible lump travelled up his throat. He then threw up the purple goop mass, like projectile threw up. The purple goop sped quickly through the air towards the Scraggy-like blob and...missed it by a few centimetre. The astroturf in the immediate vicinity of the toxic goop died (I didn't know astroturf could die!). Bronn frowned, things were not going his way.

Pants! sat and wait, knowing that's what his trainer wanted him to do. The Tauntening would come after.

Bronn tilted his head, maybe Pants! was going easy on him! Well, he wasn't going to go easy on Pants!! Picking up a small rock, Bronn began to sharpen his teeth on it. Letting his eggshell white teeth grind against the flat surface until sufficiently sharp. He grinned, showing off his sharp teeth to the dragon-in-baggy-pants before him. He then charged forward, rushing towards the Scraggy-like blob that sat still with a blooming blue flower growing out of the side of its 'head'. He opened his mouth wide and, upon getting close enough, he bit down, managing to tear off a portion of the blob. The portion of blob disintegrating in his mouth. He stopped in his tracks and turned around, the rest of the blob slowly disintegrating too. Bronn face-palmed, 'that wasn't the real Pants!'.

And the Tauntening began.

Pants! stood over the already angered Bronn and grinned, that ridiculously long tooth reflecting the sun like a perfect mirror. He had to come up with something annoying, something that would penetrate deep into Bronn's soul and send him on a furious rampage. And Pants! got just the idea.



Notes

• Okay! So, great, trouble in my first round of reffing. So, when it came to Bronn using Super Fang on the Sub, I wasn't sure whether it would do half of Pants!'s current health or if it would do half of the Sub's current health as damage. I went with the logical conclusion of it being the Sub's. If you disagree, I'll re-do the reffing for the round.
• Rolls included:
  • 9 for Pants!'s Super Fang (10 to miss)
  • 10 for Bronn's Toxic (10 to miss)
  • 5 for Bronn's Super Fang (10 to miss)
• Taunt to last for 3 actions~
• Assumed the energy for Super Fang was 0.75* the damage rounded up, if it's rounded down I'll correct it.
• There's a small pool of icky, purple, toxic phlegm close to Pants! and his sub.
• TruetoCheese to order next.
• Chespin Sprite by Kyle Dove from Deviantart.
• Let's hope I didn't mess up too much! :s

Personally I would've had it kill the Sub, since the attack was targeting Pants and the sub just got in the way

I've actually had this happen in-game and super fang does damage based on the actual pokemon's health, not the sub's.

It's been fixed to go along with the game's standard then~

Uh, how long will Taunt last? I think you should mention that in the end of round status. I assume it's 3 though?

Orders up in a bit.

TruetoCheese said:

Uh, how long will Taunt last? I think you should mention that in the end of round status. I assume it's 3 though?

Orders up in a bit.

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Blech I knew I forgot to put something in at the end.

Fixed!

Alright, buddy-boy, you are doing well, so let's go with the tried and true! Super Fang him one more time for good measure. After that come up close and Crunch down hard, we can't get rid of that giant overbite of yours, we might as well use it. Finish up with another Taunt. And again, just wait until after he's done his move for the final action.

If Bronn is untargetable on the second or third actions, for some odd reason(Dig or whatnot), just Chill. If it's a one action dig, and he's going to come up to smack you around, just wait and Crunch or Taunt him when he comes back up! Of course, if he's doing a two action dig and will come up on the third action, just wait it out and Taunt.

Super Fang ~ Crunch/Chill ~ Delayed Taunt/Chill

Jesus Lord at thy birth that didn't go as planned.

The Taunt is what's really screwing with us, but there's not much we can do about it so we might as well just Power-Up Punch, then Drain Punch, then on the last action hit him with a Focus Punch. I'm pretty sure you can't out-wait someone who's Focus Punching, so maybe it'll even count for one of your Taunted actions. Either way it should still work.

Power-Up Punch~Drain Punch~Focus Punch

2vs2 Single
Style: Switch
DQ: One week
Damage Cap: 40%
Banned Moves: None
Terrain: ASB Central Stadium

Although designed to be a state-of-the-art battling facility and located at the very heart of ASB Central's battle district, ASB Central Stadium actually sees very little use. Most battlers prefer the infinite variety of the holodrome's simulated arenas to the basic, if impressive, stadium field, and official tournaments tend to feature tours of other regions rather than a homefield brawl. There is one advantage to the stadium, though--its proximity to the holodrome grants it access to a full range of simulation options, allowing trainers to trick out their team to whatever extent they like before battling.

There's nothing much to say about the battlefield: it's a large, rectangular arena covered in astroturf. A circular pool will open in its center if a Pokémon requiring water to move around in is sent out. In this arena, Pokémon can summon absolutely anything they need for their attacks: tidal waves, boulders, and so on are in ready supply.

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Pants! kicked off the ceremonies this round. He grinned wide, his long, white tooth glistening eagerly in the light. He picked up a small pebble and started to sharpen the absurdly long tooth with it. The tooth chipped occasionally, causing Pants! to cringe. Upon finishing the tooth was irregularly jagged and insanely sharp. His attentions then turned to Bronn, the visibly pissed-off Chespin, and he started to charge towards the chestnut hedgehog. He opened his mouth, wide, in mid-charge. His cheeks flapped in the wind. As he approached the no-going-back point of right in front of Bronn, he lunged and bit right down on the Chespin’s other shoulder. Causing Bronn to cry out in pain. Not as much as last time, but certainly a loud, high-pitched squeal.

Bronn frowned and panted. This was taking a lot out of him. He continued to pant loudly and pulled his fist back. He started to focus some form of energy to the fist. What energy? Who knows. Perhaps it was the ghostly energy of his lost Chesnaught ancestors. Or maybe it was some manifestation of his frustration. Either way, the longer he focused the energy, the more his fist began to glow with an eerie orange aura. He grinned, Pants! was directly behind him. All he had to do was spin around and thrust his fist into the loose-skin lizard. Which is exactly what he did. Spinning on one foot, Bronn flung his orange-glowing fist directly into the chest of the Scraggy. As this happened, Bronn’s muscles tensed, and then stiffened. They all bulged out, growing by a significant amount all at once. Pants! reacted to the punch by tumbling back about a foot. Bronn felt better, less frustrated. That bucktooth weirdo wasn’t as irritating.

Pants! glared. Bronn got a decent sized hit in. And… did he… did he look more muscular? The pants dragon shrugged and carried out his orders. Staring Bronn right in the eyes, he grinned toothily, showing off the pearly-white gnashers. He then began to concentrate, his teeth and jaws began to ‘glow’ black, as if the light in the immediate vicinity of Pants!’s mouth was disappearing, fading away. He opened his mouth wide, the light inside of it was gone and ghostly, whispering shadows danced and wriggled around his jaw. The only relief from the black hole forming in the Scraggy’s mouth were his teeth, which still glistened in the light. Pants! sped right up to the Chespin’s personal space, their faces only a couple of centimetres apart. Pants! tilted his head to the right, the silence of the charade freaking Bronn out. Then, almost out of nowhere, Pants! bit down, sinking his teeth into Bronn’s abdomen. The Scraggy pulled away, leaving the shadowy glow of his jaws surrounding the bite mark. Bronn squealed in pain as the shadows entered the wound, burning his flesh as they entered. He bit his own lip to stop himself from crying out any more.

Bronn scowled! That was one hell of a bite! He felt tired. He probably wasn’t going to last much longer in this battle, but, while he was still here, he vowed to hit hard. Pants! was uncomfortably close again, which was good. Bronn pulled his fist back again, his legs wobbling just a little. His gaze never left Pants!, mumbling various anthems of hatred towards the Scraggy. As he cursed and murmured and glared, his fist began to gently glow green. Wisps of vivid yellow appeared and faded over his hand. He flung himself forward, powering his fist through the air and towards Pants!. As it travelled through the air, the glow went from faint green to vibrant green. The yellow wisps began to grow more vivid too. A bright green flash lit up the arena as the fist connected with Pants!’s chest, landing right on top of the previous hit site. As the green light flashed, the yellow wisps connected Bronn to Pants!, transferring energy between the Scraggy and the Chespin. He felt more energetic and much less frustrated!

Bronn didn’t give himself time to breathe as he immediately pulled his other fist back and began to focus. As he did so, his fist started to glow with a red aura.

Pants! stood there, waiting for Bronn to actually do something.

Bronn shut his eyes tight. His muscles tensing. His stance was still weak, his knees wobbling. However, he didn’t focus on that. His stance wasn’t his priority. His priority was pushing all of his power, all of his strength, into one huge punch.

Pants! twiddled his thumbs, waiting for Bronn to do something other than stand there and close his eyes. The red glow of the Chespin’s fist did, however, signify that something was going to happen. So the Scraggy decided to wait for whatever that was to go down.

Bronn bit his lip. Sweat dribbled down from his pores on his forehead. He blushed bright, hot red. His arm trembled almost as much as his knees. He exhaled sharply from his nose. The red glow surrounding his fist was intense. In fact, it was so intense it seemed his entire body was glowing red.

Pants! turned back to look at his trainer, asking for some stimulus to help him. TruetoCheese shrugged, shouting, “Just wait! He’s bound to make a move soon.”

And Bronn did, almost immediately after TruetoCheese’s orders. Everything became too much for the Chespin, the entirety of his strength and energy focused into one spot on his body. The energy spontaneously released, Bronn’s entire body flying forward with his fist. The red-glowing Chespin powering forward towards Pants!. The Chespin’s fist connected with the Scraggy’s abdomen, the red light dissipating immediately. For a brief second, neither Pokémon moved and then the momentum blew both Pokémon back several foot. Pants! cried out in pain, his body landing with a thud near TruetoCheese’s feet. The dust settled, and Pants! pulled himself back up on his feet.

It was now time for the Tauntening 2: Electric Boogaloo.

Pants! opened his mouth to speak, ready to read off a list of insults and jibes, and then the action ended. The round ended.

He had missed his chance. Tauntening 2: Electric Boogaloo was a flop.



Notes

• Couple of things:
  • I profusely apologise for the wait for this round of reffing, I lost my near-complete rounds three times due to blue screens. It won’t happen again!
  • I imagine you can’t successfully out-wait a negative priority move without negative priority, like how you can’t out-speed a positive priority move without positive priority. So I had Pants! Just wait out the last action because he was waiting to move last, but couldn’t actually move last due to Focus Punch’s negative priority. He’d be waiting too long and would ’miss his chance’ to make a move. If this is wrong I’ll totally correct it.
• Rolls included:
  • 18 for Pants!'s Super Fang (91 and above to miss)
  • 83 for Pants!'s Crunch defense roll (20 and below for defense decrease )
  • 67 for Bronn's Power-Up Punch Critical Hit (10 or below for crit)
  • 55 for Pants!'s Crunch Critical Hit (10 or below for crit)
  • 21 for Bronn's Drain Punch Critical Hit (10 or below for crit)
  • 71 for Bronn's Focus Punch Critical Hit (10 or below for crit)
• There's a small pool of icky, purple, toxic phlegm on TruetoCheese's side of the field.
• The Omskivar to order next.
• Chespin Sprite by Kyle Dove from Deviantart.
• Songs listened to while writing this are by Brother and Bones.
• Let's hope I didn't mess up too much a second time! :s

I wouldn't say that the Taunt would outright fail, just the Focus Punch action would count as one of Taunt's duration actions. Though Omski should shed his thoughts on this.

*hides*

TruetoCheese said:

I wouldn't say that the Taunt would outright fail, just the Focus Punch action would count as one of Taunt's duration actions. Though Omski should shed his thoughts on this.

*hides*

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That was my initial plan, but then I read your orders again and 'you said wait until after he's done his move' which, due to it being the first part of that action, took priority and was all Pants! did that action

But, yeah, should probably wait for more people to weigh in

Usually (and I'm pretty sure I'm not alone here) as a rule of thumb I assume that no Pokemon is willing to wait long enough to "miss their chance" at attacking that action, and sometimes that does boil down to tricky conditionals like these. I wouldn't technically fault you for reffing it how you did, since that is how it was worded, but I would generally lean towards each Pokemon at least trying to get a shot in, albeit at the last minute.

As far as the rest of the reffing goes, I'm really liking your prose, and the calculations are looking pretty good. In the end-of-the-round notes, though, it should show Bronn as having +1 Attack from Power-Up Punch (I hope that was factored in for the Drain and Focus Punches? It's in the write-up so I assumed you didn't forget about it entirely, just in the notes).

This is a moot point since the damage was capped on Pants! anyway, but I think there's a 1% extra bit of damage on Focus Punch?

The Omskivar said:

Usually (and I'm pretty sure I'm not alone here) as a rule of thumb I assume that no Pokemon is willing to wait long enough to "miss their chance" at attacking that action, and sometimes that does boil down to tricky conditionals like these. I wouldn't technically fault you for reffing it how you did, since that is how it was worded, but I would generally lean towards each Pokemon at least trying to get a shot in, albeit at the last minute.

As far as the rest of the reffing goes, I'm really liking your prose, and the calculations are looking pretty good. In the end-of-the-round notes, though, it should show Bronn as having +1 Attack from Power-Up Punch (I hope that was factored in for the Drain and Focus Punches? It's in the write-up so I assumed you didn't forget about it entirely, just in the notes).

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I just forgot to put it in the notes (again, damn), so I'll sort that out now!

Also, what's the consensus here? Should I keep my round as is or put the taunt in? I'd much rather stick to my guns on this one as it's not like the Scraggy could interpret the orders differently to how they were said seeing as it was worded the way it was.

Just figuring I should mention, for everyone's future reference, that negative priority vs delayed command (and hell, even delayed command vs delayed command) is a kind of issue that is at this point largely up to the referee and not governed by any kind of consensus. In the particular case, I suppose this means Knuddeluff gets to stick to those guns after all.

Yeah, like I said I can't fault you for reffing it that way and like MF said it doesn't actually violate any set ASB rules so you do you! I'll edit my commands in probably sometime tomorrow

EDIT: It's tomorrow! Okay Bronn, so you're not Taunted, which is great news! Really great actually, because we're going to start right off with a Pain Split. You might actually be Taunted by the time you move, but that's okay--in that case, use Superpower on the first action instead. Also do this regardless if there's a Substitute; I've had quite enough of those. If there are clones, look for a shadow; if there's a Protect or Detect going on, Chill.

Now, on the second action, there should be even footing; if not, if Pain Split did not work or happen, use Endeavor now. Endeavor works when you're Taunted, so that should be okay. If the Pain Split did work, use Drain Punch. Again, Chill if there's Protect or Detect shenanigans. If there's a Substitute, use Endeavor; it should work either way.

On the last action, if you destroyed a Substitute this round, use Seed Bomb. If there's a Substitute up now, still use Seed Bomb. In fact, the only reason you should not use Seed Bomb is if there's a Protect or Detect up, in which case you should Chill. If Pants! ever tries to dig somewhere, follow him!

Pain Split/Superpower/Chill~Endeavor/Drain Punch/Chill~Seed Bomb/Chill