Please stop using joke pronouns - Page 2

**Adriane** · #21 06-20-2011, 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Zhu Que

Here's a thought: take the option away entirely and let's stop getting so caught up in what is nowadays a lesser detail.

How would this solve anything? There are people who identify as a specific gender and people who don't. Put the pronouns you accept. This is not hard.

**ultraviolet** · #22 06-20-2011, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Zhu Que

Here's a thought: take the option away entirely and let's stop getting so caught up in what is nowadays a lesser detail.

it might be a lesser detail to you, but I think a lot of people still see gender as kind of a big deal, at least so you can easily refer to someone with a pronoun they're comfortable with! what exactly is difficult about putting an actual pronoun in a box that asks for a pronoun? people should be able to express what pronoun they prefer in their postbit for ease and clarity, and this shouldn't be taken away because some people feel the need to joke about it. if people can't use them properly, what exactly is bad about telling them off (and rightfully so) as opposed to removing the option entirely?

seriously guys, you have an avatar, a usertitle and a signature that already appears every time you post - be a hilarious special snowflake in those, and not in the one thing that people want to take seriously. on your profile, you can even put hilarious zany things in the bio! or in your photo albums! this shouldn't even be an issue. I really don't want to be a No Fun Police Mod, but ffs guys. it isn't hard. by putting jokes in the gender field you're making fun of something that's... actually a big deal to some people.

MentheLapin · #23 06-20-2011, 05:10 PM

It sounds a bit extreme but why not make having a specific pronoun like having an HTML signature, in that one would have to apply for one?

Autumn · #24 06-20-2011, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Blooregard Q. Kazoo

It sounds a bit extreme but why not make having a specific pronoun like having an HTML signature, in that one would have to apply for one?

or everyone could just, y'know, put down the pronouns they want to be referred to with

Zhu Que · #25 06-20-2011, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ultraviolet

it might be a lesser detail to you, but I think a lot of people still see gender as kind of a big deal, at least so you can easily refer to someone with a pronoun they're comfortable with! what exactly is difficult about putting an actual pronoun in a box that asks for a pronoun? people should be able to express what pronoun they prefer in their postbit for ease and clarity, and this shouldn't be taken away because some people feel the need to joke about it. if people can't use them properly, what exactly is bad about telling them off (and rightfully so) as opposed to removing the option entirely?

by putting jokes in the gender field you're making fun of something that's... actually a big deal to some people.

Because people will always be idiots, that's why.

Well apparently gender shouldn't be that big of a deal but one is being made out of it.

1. Luftballon · #26 06-21-2011, 12:00 AM

maybe it never should have been an issue in the first place. that doesn't change that it is.

Medical Meccanica · #27 06-21-2011, 01:54 AM

Although I don't like the self-righteous feel of the transgender community on this forum, I have to agree with their arguments here:

It's really not that hard to decide whether you want to be called he, she, it, something else entirely (not all up-and-up on other pronouns), or whether you really don't give a shit. If you feel you need to make jokes in that field, then you either have A. a really awful sense of humor or B. you're some kind of asshole or C. you're retarded or D. All of the above.

If you answered D, you're correct! Maybe you aren't so retarded after all.

I feel the pronoun field was a good solution to get people to stop bitching, and putting joke pronouns in the field will just cause more bitching. So, unless you want to be a drama-mongering whore, don't put a joke in the pronoun field.

tl;dr just put the serious thing you want to be called in the pronoun field and leave it at that. If you make jokes there you're an asswipe.

Jolty · #28 06-21-2011, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Medical Meccanica

Although I don't like the self-righteous feel of the transgender community on this forum

I like you, you're cool

and I pretty much agree with everything else you said

Loffyglu · #29 06-21-2011, 10:35 PM

Oh God, thank you so much for addressing this ;w; I feel like I remember seeing some instances of that sort of joking around with the feature, myself, (though I couldn't point out any specific ones)... And I agree, it is pretty disrespectful to those who really make a big deal out of gender pronouns :/ Ah well, hopefully they'll wise up soon.

Lord of the Fireflies · #30 06-22-2011, 07:46 PM

I'm sorry if I hurt anybody's feelings.

If you think "It" is pejorative (and thinking about it, it is) well we could find an universal and respectful pronoun for everybody on the forum, because honestly I don't like playing around made-up pronouns much.

**surskitty** · #31 06-22-2011, 08:32 PM

The thing with respectful gender-neutral pronouns is that there are a lot of them to choose from. Hence a pronoun field. Is it honestly that difficult to follow whatever's in that field?

Lord of the Fireflies · #32 06-22-2011, 10:28 PM

Is it honestly that difficult just to have the same for everybody (who doesn't want he/she)?

We could make a poll / vote / something idk

**Adriane** · #33 06-22-2011, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord of the Fireflies

Is it honestly that difficult just to have the same for everybody (who doesn't want he/she)?

We could make a poll / vote / something idk

Is it honestly that difficult to use what people feel comfortable with?

**surskitty** · #34 06-22-2011, 10:51 PM

Yeah that's a terrible idea sorry.

Just pay attention to the field! Not that hard.

***Butterfree*** · #35 06-22-2011, 11:33 PM

I really can't wrap my brain around why people have difficulty with this concept.

bulbasaur · #36 06-22-2011, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Butterfree

I really can't wrap my brain around why people have difficulty with this concept.

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Originally Posted by Isacc Newton

I can calculate the motions of the heavenly bodies, but not the madness of people.

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Originally Posted by Albert Einstein

Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe.

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Originally Posted by Voltaire

Common sense is not so common

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Originally Posted by Scarecrow (Wizard of Oz)

If I only had a brain...

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Originally Posted by Friedrich von Schiller

Against stupidity the gods themselves struggle in vain.

You're not alone.

1. Luftballon · #37 06-23-2011, 04:08 AM

I'm sure people would be less uncomfortable if we just called everyone 'it'!

oh, wait, I think that's just

Solstice · #38 06-23-2011, 07:43 AM

If you have no use for the Pronoun field, ignore it. Just put in your gender with the Gender box instead.

1. Luftballon · #39 06-23-2011, 03:38 PM

would you care to show me where the gender box is?

***Butterfree*** · #40 06-23-2011, 03:52 PM

He's probably confusing the pronoun drop-down box with "he", "she", "it" and "any" with a gender box. In which case I fully support the idea: most people identify as simply male or female, and if you're willing to identify as male or female there is absolutely no reason you can't just select "he" or "she" accordingly and be done with it.