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Old 12-13-2013, 11:02 AM
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Default Six Years Later: Stealth Rock

Yes, the move that changed competitive play forever.

Do you think its introduction was a positive or a negative for the metagame, and why?

I think it was a positive, because, along which the physical/special split, it pretty much took much of what we knew about competitive play and threw it out the window - everyone had to start from scratch, and Rapid Spin became much more of a thing than it was in Gen 3.
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Old 12-13-2013, 12:42 PM
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Negative.

It wasn't balanced like Spikes; it only punished certain pokemon more than necessary.
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Old 12-13-2013, 07:59 PM
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Default Re: Six Years Later: Stealth Rock

Negative. Some pokemon (read: type combos) are basically unusable. I understanding the reasoning they probably had - spikes not affecting flying/levitators, they wanted something that would - but it doesn't have to be so devastating.
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I understanding the reasoning they probably had - spikes not affecting flying/levitators, they wanted something that would - but it doesn't have to be so devastating.
Basically this. I mean, yeah Spikes is awesome, but to really start seeing results you need three layers, which is actually reasonably difficult to do. Stealth Rock on the other hand? You only need to use one layer to see it destroy teams, and a suprisingly high number of pokemon can learn it. Also, the whole "Spikes, but for Flying" is actually a pretty cool idea, except Stealth Rock can cripple non-fliers I.E. any Fire or Ice type, and they already had a lot of weaknesses already (or well Ice did).

Tl;dr: Stealth Rocks is an unbalanced move.
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Basically this. I mean, yeah Spikes is awesome, but to really start seeing results you need three layers, which is actually reasonably difficult to do. Stealth Rock on the other hand? You only need to use one layer to see it destroy teams, and a suprisingly high number of pokemon can learn it. Also, the whole "Spikes, but for Flying" is actually a pretty cool idea, except Stealth Rock can cripple non-fliers I.E. any Fire or Ice type, and they already had a lot of weaknesses already (or well Ice did).

Tl;dr: Stealth Rocks is an unbalanced move.
Just wondering - should Stealth Rock be banned?
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Just wondering - should Stealth Rock be banned?
In my opinion, yeah it should. Truth be told I was kind of hoping that they would nerf it somehow but oh well.
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Old 12-14-2013, 11:11 AM
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There should just be a separate tier without sr.

And the games should nerf it, yeah.
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