Metallica Fanboy vs. Noel

Arena:

2vs2 Single
Style: Switch
DQ: One week
Damage Cap: 40%
Banned Moves: None
Terrain: ASB Central Stadium

Although designed to be a state-of-the-art battling facility and located at the very heart of ASB Central's battle district, ASB Central Stadium actually sees very little use. Most battlers prefer the infinite variety of the holodrome's simulated arenas to the basic, if impressive, stadium field, and official tournaments tend to feature tours of other regions rather than a homefield brawl. There is one advantage to the stadium, though--its proximity to the holodrome grants it access to a full range of simulation options, allowing trainers to trick out their team to whatever extent they like before battling.

There's nothing much to say about the battlefield: it's a large, rectangular arena covered in astroturf. A circular pool will open in its center if a Pokémon requiring water to move around in is sent out. In this arena, Pokémon can summon absolutely anything they need for their attacks: tidal waves, boulders, and so on are in ready supply.

Other: This battle takes place between a referee and one other member. The referee will use their own team of Pokémon, but the other battler may choose either to use their own team OR choose any six nonlegendary Pokémon with any items and abilities to use for this fight. In the former case, their Pokémon gain experience as normal. In the latter case, they may choose to apply the experience earned by their rental Pokémon, minus one point, to their team in any manner that they choose.

The prizes for this battle are $20 to the winner, $10 to the loser, and $15 to the referee. This battle does not fill a battle slot for the mentoring referee.

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Metallica Fanboy’s Active Squad

Daremyth the female Igglybuff <Cute Charm> @ Moon Stone
Scorpicore the female Skorupi <Sniper> @ Lansat Berry
Fort the male Shieldon <Sturdy> @ Jaboca Berry
Good Croc the male Totodile <Torrent> @ Muscle Band
Bad Croc the male Krokorok <Anger Point> @ Absorb Bulb
CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK the male Rufflet <Sheer Force> @ Flying Gem
Kanine West the male Snubbull <Intimidate> @ Red Card
Reaper the female Phantump <Harvest> @ Enigma Berry
My Lips Don't Lie the female Smoochum <Forewarn> @Lucky Egg
Garage Wolf the female Eevee <Adaptability> @ Thunder Stone


Noel’s Active Squad

Yuzuki's Role Model the female Swellow <Guts> @ Life Orb
Koharu's Role Model the female Mismagius <Levitate> @ Sachet
Sakura the female Empoleon <Torrent> @ Wide Lens
Passport the male Venusaur <Chlorophyll> @ Big Root (EXP: 6)
Tomoebi the male Aurorus <Refrigerate> @ Zoom Lens (EXP: 4)
Shedinja the genderless Shedinja <Wonder Guard> @ Magmarizer

Command Order

• Noel sends out.
• Metallica Fanboy sends out and commands.
• I ref, and hopefully don't screw many things up.

May the RNG be ever in your favor!

I'm so sorry! Passport is male, I'm sure.

I'd like to send out Yuzuki's role model, the Swellow, please.

Sorry for the trouble.

Heh, I'm tempted to go all-out with some Ice STAB... but my lips have in fact told some falsehoods today. So instead, we play Good Croc, and maybe even Bad Croc later.

Now then, commands on... ILS, you've been around the block for a long time, so I figure you won't have as much trouble resolving conditionals and working out the unusual effects of moves and all that mechanical jazz as most tryout refs would. So I think I'll be taking a closer look at how you handle the prose. Doesn't mean I don't have a few choice curveballs to throw around the block, of course. But first, some grey-area reffing... Oh, and of course, while this won't be requisite in regular matches (at least not yet), make sure you show me your calculations and your random rolls, so I can easily check if they're all running smoothly.

Now then, enough pep talk. We're on the slower end and we have someone to put through a bunch of conditionals, so why don't we get started on that. Let's begin with a solid (or, as it were, liquid) Whirlpool. You know how it is, one bird stuck in the vortex is better than two flying around doing whatever they want. If she's good at staying out of your attack range, though, spike with Razor Wind, let that rip in one action. If there's a Substitute in the way, maul it with Ice Punch.

Next thing, we're going Ice Fang on default -- shouldn't be difficult to land it when your opponent is in the weeping eye of the hurricane, which we should hope for. If there are Double Team clones out there, whip up a nice Rain Dance to poke through them. If you're having trouble getting the jaws in for any reason other than a Substitute or Double Team clones (for each case, we're doing the respective previous command), check your Hidden Power.

And lastly, no matter what, we finish with Ancient Power. Let's see how finely honed our hax is.

Whirlpool/Razor Wind/Ice Punch ~ Ice Fang/Rain Dance/Hidden Power ~ Ancient Power

Now, good luck making heads or tails of that wall o' text, heheh. I worry about the newbie, but at least, I won't be this annoying for the entire match.

Thank you, Mr. Squirtles, and nice to meet you, Mr. Metallica Fanboy. I hope this will be an interesting match.

Hello, Swellow. Before you are trapped by Good Croc's Whirlpool, I'd like you to give him a good Boomburst, please. I think you should be fast enough so that there won't be any problems there. But if you can't do that, Focus Energy, please.

Next, even though Good Croc will have you trapped in a whirlpool, he should still have to come over to you in order to use Ice Fang. When he gets near, I'd like it if you could U-Turn, but instead of returning to your ball, I'd prefer if you turn straight up, so that hopefully you'll be out of range by the time Good Croc recovers from the attack. I hope there won't be any problem with using U-Turn to attack and escape the Whirlpool at the same time, but if you don't think you can do that much, try to hit him with an Air Slash before he can attack.

Hopefully you can be out of the Whirlpool, but I don't know if you'd be able to be out of range for Ancient Power. I don't think it will matter, though, at least not right now. Try to finish up with Air Slash. I think that should have a farther range than Ancient Power because of how it is, but if that's still too far, maybe you'll be able to hit with Boomburst. If won't work either, then please try to use Focus Energy instead.

Boomburst / Focus Energy ~ U-Turn / Air Slash ~ Air Slash / Focus Energy

(I think I'm doing this right, but please tell me if I didn't understand something.)

2vs2 Single
Style: Switch
DQ: One week
Damage Cap: 40%
Banned Moves: None
Terrain: ASB Central Stadium

Although designed to be a state-of-the-art battling facility and located at the very heart of ASB Central's battle district, ASB Central Stadium actually sees very little use. Most battlers prefer the infinite variety of the holodrome's simulated arenas to the basic, if impressive, stadium field, and official tournaments tend to feature tours of other regions rather than a homefield brawl. There is one advantage to the stadium, though--its proximity to the holodrome grants it access to a full range of simulation options, allowing trainers to trick out their team to whatever extent they like before battling.

There's nothing much to say about the battlefield: it's a large, rectangular arena covered in astroturf. A circular pool will open in its center if a Pokémon requiring water to move around in is sent out. In this arena, Pokémon can summon absolutely anything they need for their attacks: tidal waves, boulders, and so on are in ready supply.

Other: This battle takes place between a referee and one other member. The referee will use their own team of Pokémon, but the other battler may choose either to use their own team OR choose any six nonlegendary Pokémon with any items and abilities to use for this fight. In the former case, their Pokémon gain experience as normal. In the latter case, they may choose to apply the experience earned by their rental Pokémon, minus one point, to their team in any manner that they choose.

The prizes for this battle are $20 to the winner, $10 to the loser, and $15 to the referee. This battle does not fill a battle slot for the mentoring referee.

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Excuse me, but if Swellow took 11% damage from attacks, then shouldn't she only have 86% Health because of taking damage from Life Orb?

Well, whether or not I'm right, I don't think that will make a difference. And I hope there aren't any serious problems here, so I think I can command now.

You're doing a good job, Swellow. You've been a good role model for Yuzuki so far :)

I think your Air Slash worked out very well for us, so you can try to keep on using it, please. But I guess Good Croc can try to block that, so in when you don't think you can hit with Air Slash maybe you should use Focus Energy. And if you have used Focus Energy, I guess it would be better for you to use Sky Attack instead. One turn, please.

I guess if you can hit with Air Slash but not Sky Attack you should still use Air Slash though.

Air Slash / Focus Energy / Sky Attack ~ Air Slash / Focus Energy / Sky Attack ~ Air Slash / Focus Energy / Sky Attack

By the way, sorry to take up more of your time, but now that I look at it again, I'm surprised that Good Croc's Hidden Power became a Normal type move. I don't think it's normally possible for Hidden Power to be Normal type. Although I'm not sure if that would be the same in this ASB League.

Thanks for pointing out the Life Orb damage! I'm on it.
As for the Hidden Power, I'm pretty sure it can be normal type? I'll wait for MF.

Nope, Hidden Power can't go Normal-type.

Moreover, Whirlpool shouldn't have worked. It can only form, as it were, whirlpools, rather than twisters. I could only have landed that if Swellow was either on the water or, like, adjacent to it. And Swellow wasn't even using a move that required her to be near Good Croc... And moreover, had Whirlpool worked, U-Turn wouldn't have, as the Swellow would have been bound to it and unable to just dash out of it (wouldn't be such a good trapping move otherwise, would it?). I figure you may have been misled by the fact that U-Turn is described as being able to circumvent trapping effects -- this is only as far as switching out goes. All in all, you'll need to watch out a little more closely for those judgement calls...

Onto calculations. Rounding up was fine in this case, but if you're doing it based on whether it came from STAB, you might run into problems. How you'd run it if the move had been super-effective, thus multiplying the damage further, for one... and for another, it'd definitely be out of place in things like Constrict (1% base damage, STAB makes it 1.25% and adding a flat 1% instead would double the base damage) or Fury Attack (could gain a lot of unecessarily added damage this way). There's nothing wrong with rounding up from .75, but you should have a set standard for what rounds up and what rounds down, rather than one based on the circumstances (and indeed, you didn't round up for Air Slash, although it ended in .75). Other than that, damage calculations are fine (although I'll have to point out that decimal base damage values are a thing now, so Whirlpool would've had 3.5% base -- no penalty here, though, since we're having trouble getting this on the db and I guess there hasn't been enough noise about it). The rest is mostly spot-on, although Whirlpool needs to be costing 1% extra as it has an effect (this was a recent change to the calculation format, though, so I guess it's not a big deal). Moreover... I was thinking of whether the same would apply to U-Turn in this case, and it's actually busting my brain. But yeah, other than that, the calcs are right; they seemed off at first but then I realized I was completely failing to notice the Life Orb effects, whoopsie. And oh, before I forget, random.org is perfectly fine for rolls, actually! I use it myself. Make sure you're rolling out of 100 if that's what you're going for, though (those low numbers sound almost like you'd accidentally set the roller for a lower maximum... although, eh, that still could perfectly well just be the way the RNG spoke).

As far as the prose goes... I feel like it'd be a little easier to read if you split the paragraphs a little further -- try one paragraph per move rather than one per action, unless you can make two moves in one paragraph flow smoothly enough. All the other technical aspects are good as far as I can tell, although the descriptions look a little strange in some places (for example, "The little pink orb tied around her neck stung a little" sounds like the orb is experiencing pain rather than its holder, and it's weird that it'd cause a clearly localized stinging sensation without directly being in contact with the Swellow). There's nothing in there that I'd fail you for or anything, but just some advice.

You're doing pretty well so far, all in all, you'll just have to be a little more careful about resolving moves. Don't be afraid of having things not go as the trainer was expecting when they were issuing commands.

Let's see what that round looks like after the Whirlpool snafu is ironed out, hmm? And Noel may want to issue new commands to go with that.

I'm sorry, I've become very confused about whether or not changes are up to date? I'm not sure where to be looking for anything. The post looks like it's been updated, though. I think I will give the same commands from before.

Would anybody mind explaining what changes have been made, though, please?

Of course!

The flavor text has been changed since Whirlpool failed. The second paragraph has also been split into two.
Since Whirlpool failed, calculations were redone; this resulted with Yuzuki ending in 93% health instead of the original 86%.

Okay, thank you! I won't change the commands.

For future reference, ILS, you'll want to post here about edits to reffings, rather than VMing me. That way, Noel can know as well.

Anyways, Good Croc. The newbie's good at this, but let's try something spiffy out. Lead with Double Team. After this, pop a quickened Razor Wind, see if you can mess with whichever move they're rolling out -- Air Slash and Sky Attack could get messed up by the wind, and I don't think they'll be using Focus Energy on that specific action. Wrap with a Dynamic Punch -- fingers crossed!

If you've been flinched in any action, carry your command over to the next one.

Double Team ~ Razor Wind/Double Team ~ Dynamic Punch/Razor Wind

Notes:
-For Double Team, I did a bit of digging and found Superbird’s scale. It was 1 clone every 12 speed points. This was 3.583 for Croc; rounded down, it gave him three clones.
-So on top of the final energy calculation, I add an extra point for effects? Isn’t that already factored in in the db energy cost?
-For Double Team I used Kratos’s scale (1% per clone+some more depending on speed, 3% in Croc’s case). I like it more because it seems more realistic; a crocodile with stubby feet would have a harder time running around than a Swellow.
-I lowered the second Air Slash’s accuracy by 10 points because of the Razor Wind, but it still rolled a 59.
-The ‘she’s done good’ thing is a reference… I saw it on Gravity Falls once, and it’s apparently a reference to something else.
-Sorry MF, but Razor Wind doesn’t work like that. :P I remember that, in the anime, an Absol once used Razor Wind by making many wedge-like winds (much like Air Slash) with its horn-scythe-thing and barraging the foe with them.

Command Order:
-MF attacks.
-Noel attacks.
-I ref.

Oof, sorry I've taken a bit here. Rough week, rough week...

You're doing good so far! Yes, 1 clone per 12 points of speed works well, although, technically, I think most refs (myself included) do 12.5, specifically. And ha, no need to apologize, I was fully expecting that not to work, if only because Totodile is massively behind Swellow in terms of Speed and so has basically no chance to mess with enemy attacks like that (although, in retrsopect, Swellow was bogged down by conditionals. hmmmmmm...). In any case, be sure to check the official ASB flavor on moves, too, as there are occasions when it will diverge from the anime.

Anyways, Good Croc, let's keep it simple. Screech to torture that frazzled bird's head, then hit hard with Double-Edge. Then, let's try Ancient Power again to wrap this up.

Screech ~ Double-Edge ~ Ancient Power

That was a bit unlucky. Sorry, Swellow, I guess it would be for the best to switch out so that you don't hurt yourself. But, before you do that, I'd like you to try another Boomburst, please. It's fine if you can't manage it, though.

After that, you can come back and I'll send out Koharu's role model.

Boomburst ~ Switch (Koharu's role model)

2vs2 Single
Style: Switch
DQ: One week
Damage Cap: 40%
Banned Moves: None
Terrain: ASB Central Stadium

Although designed to be a state-of-the-art battling facility and located at the very heart of ASB Central's battle district, ASB Central Stadium actually sees very little use. Most battlers prefer the infinite variety of the holodrome's simulated arenas to the basic, if impressive, stadium field, and official tournaments tend to feature tours of other regions rather than a homefield brawl. There is one advantage to the stadium, though--its proximity to the holodrome grants it access to a full range of simulation options, allowing trainers to trick out their team to whatever extent they like before battling.

There's nothing much to say about the battlefield: it's a large, rectangular arena covered in astroturf. A circular pool will open in its center if a Pokémon requiring water to move around in is sent out. In this arena, Pokémon can summon absolutely anything they need for their attacks: tidal waves, boulders, and so on are in ready supply.

Other: This battle takes place between a referee and one other member. The referee will use their own team of Pokémon, but the other battler may choose either to use their own team OR choose any six nonlegendary Pokémon with any items and abilities to use for this fight. In the former case, their Pokémon gain experience as normal. In the latter case, they may choose to apply the experience earned by their rental Pokémon, minus one point, to their team in any manner that they choose.

The prizes for this battle are $20 to the winner, $10 to the loser, and $15 to the referee. This battle does not fill a battle slot for the mentoring referee.

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Ref’s Notes:
-Can we please get a replacement for Noel? Why were they banned?

Command Order:
-Noel commands.
-MF commands.
-I ref.

Time for DQ.

Metallica Fanboy gets $20.
Noel gets nothing, and 1 experience and happiness to be distributed among their Pokémon.
Good Croc gets 1 EXP and happiness.
I get $15. I was wondering if I was eligible for the $15 bonus, seeing as this was Noel's first battle and all, but with the recent developments I'm guessing I'm not. Additionally, if I'm approved, can these rounds be redeemed?

MF told me that this thread shouldn't be closed yet, just in case.

edit: the prizes given are those stated in the arena description.