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blazheirio889
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Right, apologies again for the lack of communication! I'm apparently designated social but the problem is I'm halfway across the world from where I usually am and without reliable internet, so. Since we're new to this and all we're kinda clumsy and not very coordinated, but we hope to improve with time! (I mean, we'd /better/ improve if we want things to go smoothly...)
We appreciate the amount of people who want to help, we really do! But the main reason we don't want to add any more people to our team is that a larger group means communication and coordination is more difficult, and as you can probably see we're already struggling with that... OTL As for now, a small team is probably the best way to go. We'll re-evaluate the situation as time goes on and maybe invite more people. But when ASB re-opens, what we'd really appreciate most from you guys is activity and participation! Everyone can help, even if they're not on the team, by being active, battling, and reffing!
We appreciate the amount of people who want to help, we really do! But the main reason we don't want to add any more people to our team is that a larger group means communication and coordination is more difficult, and as you can probably see we're already struggling with that... OTL As for now, a small team is probably the best way to go. We'll re-evaluate the situation as time goes on and maybe invite more people. But when ASB re-opens, what we'd really appreciate most from you guys is activity and participation! Everyone can help, even if they're not on the team, by being active, battling, and reffing!
Phantom
Uh, I didn't do it.
Yeah. Great people you've chosen to run ASB there.
I think they forgot I was still a member at their little website where they plotted for BfA. Remember guys? I technically was in the fight for all of five seconds.
And just like they said, I'm going to get chewed out on this. Because you just know I'm the sad victim who always needs to be pitied and WHY ARE YOU ALL PILING UP ON ME, STAHP, PLZ! THAT HURTZ MY FEELINGS. Just because I can't seem to fucking phrase things right and always dance around trying to not be mean and be everyone's fucking friend.
res also linked in two posts, one some random ass post from Datura about mods, the other was a link to a conversation between me and another member asking about what happened in the BfA, where I simply said I didn't know enough to say anything. (Also would it kill the guy to use some sort of grammar.)
I think it's time I released one of the messages I got from a member that left, note, not my words and I'll only put in what was mentioned about the BfA and not the OTHER stuff, which is just as interesting. Remember, not my words. Copied from a PM, thanks "random" person!
So the guy that's responsible for the death of ASB, according to the head herself, is now going to revive it? Sounds like a fucking backdoor policy to me.
You know what blahzy? I was never mad before? Probably because I didn't think you nice pm was being done under the direction of someone else.
OTHER MEMBERS OF THE FORUM; DO YOU WANT TO KNOW WHY WE CAN'T HAVE NICE THINGS?
PEOPLE PULLING THIS SHIT.
EDIT: Also, I just recently went to visit the site again, I've been banned. Some spine you got there.
I think they forgot I was still a member at their little website where they plotted for BfA. Remember guys? I technically was in the fight for all of five seconds.
And just like they said, I'm going to get chewed out on this. Because you just know I'm the sad victim who always needs to be pitied and WHY ARE YOU ALL PILING UP ON ME, STAHP, PLZ! THAT HURTZ MY FEELINGS. Just because I can't seem to fucking phrase things right and always dance around trying to not be mean and be everyone's fucking friend.
res also linked in two posts, one some random ass post from Datura about mods, the other was a link to a conversation between me and another member asking about what happened in the BfA, where I simply said I didn't know enough to say anything. (Also would it kill the guy to use some sort of grammar.)
I think it's time I released one of the messages I got from a member that left, note, not my words and I'll only put in what was mentioned about the BfA and not the OTHER stuff, which is just as interesting. Remember, not my words. Copied from a PM, thanks "random" person!
So the guy that's responsible for the death of ASB, according to the head herself, is now going to revive it? Sounds like a fucking backdoor policy to me.
You know what blahzy? I was never mad before? Probably because I didn't think you nice pm was being done under the direction of someone else.
OTHER MEMBERS OF THE FORUM; DO YOU WANT TO KNOW WHY WE CAN'T HAVE NICE THINGS?
PEOPLE PULLING THIS SHIT.
EDIT: Also, I just recently went to visit the site again, I've been banned. Some spine you got there.
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You know what? I have no idea what the fuck this drama is even about. I didn't know what the hell Battle for Asber was even while it was going on. ASB was Negrek's baby; if she'd like to weigh in on all this, she probably has a way better perspective on it than I do. I don't know what exactly res did to apparently ruin it for everyone or whether he learned his lesson or whatever.
I will say that mocking other members behind their backs is a dickish thing to do even if you think they can't see it, and also that making big public angry confrontations is generally not a good way to deal with things - it's a way to cause irritating drama, heightened emotions and defensiveness that ensures nothing gets done. Can we please talk about the issue like adults?
I will say that mocking other members behind their backs is a dickish thing to do even if you think they can't see it, and also that making big public angry confrontations is generally not a good way to deal with things - it's a way to cause irritating drama, heightened emotions and defensiveness that ensures nothing gets done. Can we please talk about the issue like adults?
1. Luftballon
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Perhaps I'm overstepping my lines here, but I personally am very uncomfortable with the idea that those who were I guess centrally involved with the drama and subsequent shutting down of The Battle of Asber - whoever's fault it was - are now those who are in charge of restoring it, and I am sure I'm not alone here. I am also probably not alone in feeling uncomfortable that someone who declares itself to be "an evil douchebag bastard stalker" and "obnoxious and disliked" is possibly going to be in charge of something that is important to a lot of members and formed a core part of this forum's activity (which is what this thread was actually about, if anyone remembers). Whether this is a 'personal feud' between res and other forum members or not, it is ultimately tied into a major source of conflict within the old ASB, and is certainly relevant to the new one. I am not interested in seeing a new ASB fail because of various 'personal feuds'.
I suppose now is a good time to say that I did not know the discussion about Phantom was happening (I was also not part of The Battle of Asber drama, I didn't even join in), because majority of the forum was hidden from me, and that I do not support or appreciate the kind of behavior that has taken place. Whether or not Phantom was the intended audience, openly gossiping about and mocking a member of the forums is really not the kind of behavior you really want to see from anyone with authority, like an ASB moderator? And the fact that more of this behavior keeps being pulled up from a variety of sources does not really do much to help. Whether you are 'no good at PR' or not, you do need to kind of not be a douchebag if you're going to head ASB, if only because it also goes against the general grain of the forums.
As such, I am absolving my help from this project. I would like to make it clear that I do not support anything going on here unless some major things change - you cannot be openly rude and obnoxious to people and also lead a community.
I'm also going to add that if anyone feels they should say something, do so (as long as you're doing so respectfully) - this is a community thing, after all, and ASB will presumably be used by you.
I suppose now is a good time to say that I did not know the discussion about Phantom was happening (I was also not part of The Battle of Asber drama, I didn't even join in), because majority of the forum was hidden from me, and that I do not support or appreciate the kind of behavior that has taken place. Whether or not Phantom was the intended audience, openly gossiping about and mocking a member of the forums is really not the kind of behavior you really want to see from anyone with authority, like an ASB moderator? And the fact that more of this behavior keeps being pulled up from a variety of sources does not really do much to help. Whether you are 'no good at PR' or not, you do need to kind of not be a douchebag if you're going to head ASB, if only because it also goes against the general grain of the forums.
As such, I am absolving my help from this project. I would like to make it clear that I do not support anything going on here unless some major things change - you cannot be openly rude and obnoxious to people and also lead a community.
I'm also going to add that if anyone feels they should say something, do so (as long as you're doing so respectfully) - this is a community thing, after all, and ASB will presumably be used by you.
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The Omskivar
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Ugh I hate this sort of thing and on my birthday too guys :/
I'd like to also publicly state that I had no idea that any discussion regarding Phantom in any way was going on, and I have zero approval for it. It's not okay and it's not friendly and it certainly isn't becoming of someone trying to lead. I won't go as far as to absolve my help in the project, mostly because I'm barely doing anything as it is and it wouldn't affect anything, but I would like to apologize to Phantom, if not on the behalf of blazhy/res, the on behalf of myself, having been completely ignorant.
I really don't have any opinions on res that are relevant to the conversation, except that sarcastically calling things "adorable" and inviting further hostilities towards it might not be the way it wants to handle the original hostilities (justified or no, hostilities are what they are). If it is bad at PR, then it should learn instead of using it as a justification for saying/doing whatever it wants without consideration.
I'd like to also publicly state that I had no idea that any discussion regarding Phantom in any way was going on, and I have zero approval for it. It's not okay and it's not friendly and it certainly isn't becoming of someone trying to lead. I won't go as far as to absolve my help in the project, mostly because I'm barely doing anything as it is and it wouldn't affect anything, but I would like to apologize to Phantom, if not on the behalf of blazhy/res, the on behalf of myself, having been completely ignorant.
I really don't have any opinions on res that are relevant to the conversation, except that sarcastically calling things "adorable" and inviting further hostilities towards it might not be the way it wants to handle the original hostilities (justified or no, hostilities are what they are). If it is bad at PR, then it should learn instead of using it as a justification for saying/doing whatever it wants without consideration.
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I can't really say much other than, Why now? What the heck even is Battle for Asber? This is the first time I heard of it. I understand that you'd be annoyed, I know of people where that sort of misunderstanding and mis-phrasing occurs. You can give a point, and thats fine. You can prove your point, and that's ok. You can be aggressive and attack someone, and that's not ok.
Also, why would anyone here talk about people behind their backs. If you have a problem with them, then go right ahead and tell them, but nicely. That sort of stuff is what causes tension, and when it breaks, the result is never good. This sort of stuff should never occur if people are able to talk straight with others, or themselves for that matter. Same goes for being rude and annoying to others. I hope that this does not occur on this thread in the near future again.
Also, why would anyone here talk about people behind their backs. If you have a problem with them, then go right ahead and tell them, but nicely. That sort of stuff is what causes tension, and when it breaks, the result is never good. This sort of stuff should never occur if people are able to talk straight with others, or themselves for that matter. Same goes for being rude and annoying to others. I hope that this does not occur on this thread in the near future again.
1. Luftballon
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ed: okay, so it might be helpful to read through the last hide first; I think that's the most important part. the context hide is lots of tangentially-relevants after skipping through most of it. useful notes, perhaps -- if the second hide doesn't make sense out of context, it could be worth reading.
this post's ordering is kind of wonky because it was written over the course of, like, three and a half hours and moving around as I wrote it. I'm going to leave that as-is, though.
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oh, bah, no, wrong turn; I mean, I'm probably just as bad at expressing as phantom thinks itself. (this is why I don't do this sort of thing anymore. it doesn't work very well.) it just happens to be that my express is mostly string together quotes of things well past their expiration dates out of context.
so okay, that probably didn't help at all. before setting about this business of context, a ... disclaimer, I guess? that seems like the wrong word, but: if this, somehow, sounds even worse (I'd hope not) ... um actually I'm not sure what to say.
in chronological order, let's say.
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ah, I wouldn't say you could be blamed.
(well sorry about your birthday)
well I do generally try to avoid pr-type business. judgment failure, though, sorry.
the "adorable" wasn't sarcasm, though, for the record; I might use "cute" in sarcasm, never "adorable". but no, really, between the camelcasing and the insult, it's adorable! ... maybe it isn't if you're not me. maybe it's context-sensitive.
also I'm just apparently very bad at trying to resolve hostilities: I see the dead horse (well, I identify it as a dead unicorn) and I think it's ridiculous; I attempt to show that it's kind of ridiculous and ... no profit.
actually there are a lot of context problems around here, aren't there.
(and, um, sorry about the birthday.)
this post's ordering is kind of wonky because it was written over the course of, like, three and a half hours and moving around as I wrote it. I'm going to leave that as-is, though.
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oh, bah, no, wrong turn; I mean, I'm probably just as bad at expressing as phantom thinks itself. (this is why I don't do this sort of thing anymore. it doesn't work very well.) it just happens to be that my express is mostly string together quotes of things well past their expiration dates out of context.
so okay, that probably didn't help at all. before setting about this business of context, a ... disclaimer, I guess? that seems like the wrong word, but: if this, somehow, sounds even worse (I'd hope not) ... um actually I'm not sure what to say.
in chronological order, let's say.
[hide=Social History of the Battle for Asber]the battle for asber was kind of a fracas. I'm actually really not sure how it got that way. it started with extensive excitement, I mean, and a lot of, uh, culture, happened. our first forums were here. (is that public information yet? ... no matter, it hasn't been a real secret for a year.)
things started to go wrong. well, more, things started by going wrong. for the first round, I basically wrote up the whole round. I expected it to be seamlessly integrated; there were almost certainly some failure mode, but given that we were conceded private commands, I considered the failure modes I imagined sufficiently obscure and not otherwise useful that they'd need a miracle to imagine them without seeing the commands and they'd be wrong to choose them.
well at least one of those assumptions was wrong. so we abandoned tight integration in favour of loose coupling. I still think that tight integration would have worked better if our commands had stayed private.
somewhere we have a pm from negrek and the original legendary plotting quicktopic indicating that we were betrayed from the beginning ... which is, ah, slightly at odds with the other side's official spiel. (I don't have these on hand, and they probably wouldn't help in any case; but mai could probably dig it out from somewhere.)
we became very suspicious after round ... 7, with the perfectly timed teleport. things going well for the opponents, that can be explained by incorrect balancing. understandable. we figured we could win in the end on the basis of mental attrition, and we called for increased participation. but you just generally don't get that many coincidences in that few rounds. something of a cabal split off and we did our own thing to some extent. the suspicions were voiced. we went through a few rounds of negotiations with negrek as things were shuffled around. the original legendary contenders dropped out, were replaced.
we really were trying to get ... balance. something we could reasonably accept as fair. slightly balanced, at least. an arrangement where a victory wasn't a foregone conclusion. negrek being collusive to some extent was clear, of course, but we figured justice was a goal we could agree on.
things fell apart after that.
things started to go wrong. well, more, things started by going wrong. for the first round, I basically wrote up the whole round. I expected it to be seamlessly integrated; there were almost certainly some failure mode, but given that we were conceded private commands, I considered the failure modes I imagined sufficiently obscure and not otherwise useful that they'd need a miracle to imagine them without seeing the commands and they'd be wrong to choose them.
well at least one of those assumptions was wrong. so we abandoned tight integration in favour of loose coupling. I still think that tight integration would have worked better if our commands had stayed private.
somewhere we have a pm from negrek and the original legendary plotting quicktopic indicating that we were betrayed from the beginning ... which is, ah, slightly at odds with the other side's official spiel. (I don't have these on hand, and they probably wouldn't help in any case; but mai could probably dig it out from somewhere.)
we became very suspicious after round ... 7, with the perfectly timed teleport. things going well for the opponents, that can be explained by incorrect balancing. understandable. we figured we could win in the end on the basis of mental attrition, and we called for increased participation. but you just generally don't get that many coincidences in that few rounds. something of a cabal split off and we did our own thing to some extent. the suspicions were voiced. we went through a few rounds of negotiations with negrek as things were shuffled around. the original legendary contenders dropped out, were replaced.
we really were trying to get ... balance. something we could reasonably accept as fair. slightly balanced, at least. an arrangement where a victory wasn't a foregone conclusion. negrek being collusive to some extent was clear, of course, but we figured justice was a goal we could agree on.
things fell apart after that.
that's quite a lot of ... well, it's background on drama. from over a year ago; well past its expiration date. I suppose I can't presume the irrelevance of personal feuds, but year-old ones involving parties that seemingly haven't been around for as long (in part because of these incidents, supposedly).
quite a lovely amount of blame went on after that. on all sides, certainly. insults to intelligence, comparisons to wwii personages, extensive swearing? well, extensive swearing from one side. we tried to avoid it. it was stressful, in retrospect, I'd concur, though; personal attacks do that.
quite a lovely amount of blame went on after that. on all sides, certainly. insults to intelligence, comparisons to wwii personages, extensive swearing? well, extensive swearing from one side. we tried to avoid it. it was stressful, in retrospect, I'd concur, though; personal attacks do that.
oh, this one is excellent. if I recall correctly, it occurred subsequent to the addition of players to bfa. there were ... two incidents, I think it was, when someone decided to register with ridiculous pokémon choices. naturally (well, in context), whivit accused me of that. (one of them involved someone preemptively pming me over ... tor or something. I suspect that one was whivit, but, well, no solid evidence ever surfaced around that case.) those incidents were initially worrying, but after negrek agreed that those didn't count, just mildly amusing.
(honeybee snrk)
oh and whivit told me I was a douchebag and started calling me that until we stopped interacting much. (what am I now? an eczema, was it?) the rest of the cabal agreed.
(honeybee snrk)
oh and whivit told me I was a douchebag and started calling me that until we stopped interacting much. (what am I now? an eczema, was it?) the rest of the cabal agreed.
well, I made use of some questionably legitimate means of acquiring information. mostly persistent monitoring for access, ip, blah blah I'm not sure what I did. I know it wasn't very efficient, nor very effective. well, slightly effective. res deducing geography became something of an amusement.
as for evil? well.
as for evil? well.
after asb died, our cabal tried to design an asb. an unknown and unacknowledged descendant, you see, a bastard, with bastardfriends.
long words wear down somewhat.
long words wear down somewhat.
愛发火团 might be the original form. I'd assume by analogy to the 可愛的bluzzy which 特別可愛.
愛发火 liberally, and we had the impression that 团 is for lumpy things.
愛发火 liberally, and we had the impression that 团 is for lumpy things.
oh come on really, that's right up there with abstaining courteously!
I, uh, enjoy musicals. musicals are a major sources of things I enjoy quoting out of context. (most of the rest is allie.)
I actually am obnoxious and disliked by something of a segment, I guess, though.
I, uh, enjoy musicals. musicals are a major sources of things I enjoy quoting out of context. (most of the rest is allie.)
I actually am obnoxious and disliked by something of a segment, I guess, though.
I'm also something of a fan of, ah, let's call it witchery 101.
ah, I wouldn't say you could be blamed.
(well sorry about your birthday)
well I do generally try to avoid pr-type business. judgment failure, though, sorry.
the "adorable" wasn't sarcasm, though, for the record; I might use "cute" in sarcasm, never "adorable". but no, really, between the camelcasing and the insult, it's adorable! ... maybe it isn't if you're not me. maybe it's context-sensitive.
also I'm just apparently very bad at trying to resolve hostilities: I see the dead horse (well, I identify it as a dead unicorn) and I think it's ridiculous; I attempt to show that it's kind of ridiculous and ... no profit.
actually there are a lot of context problems around here, aren't there.
it's not malice, in case that needs to be cleared up; I'd hope nobody else around here is malicious, either, but I, of course, can't speak for everyone else around here.
since I've lived the context of this incident here and according to what everything above have empathy shortage, I have something of difficulty with what's dramaful here. I'll try, though:
since I've lived the context of this incident here and according to what everything above have empathy shortage, I have something of difficulty with what's dramaful here. I'll try, though:
I assume that the cited posts above are being interpreted as mockery.
okay, well, I guess it kind of is, if you're receptive to interpreting it that way. we ... weren't, not so much.
see, we generally want things to go through well; I don't think anyone would say that failure is something we want to aim for; and an abundance of evidence indicates that, well each of us doing its own thing tends to blows up in our face.
so now we generally send out at least initial messages as a collective. and we try to satisfy as much as possible. we try not to offend. (we blew it this time, but. well.) and, well, in seeking to do that, we have to identify what could offend. when we were communicating with negrek, we had terrible things to say of negrek, and we said them. we had terrible things to say of sunflower and zora then, and we said them. we have terrible things to say of phantom, and, well, as displayed above, we've said them. as a rule of thumb, we've said terrible things of everyone we've contacted collectively ever.
and there was no ill will in that, none at all in the general case. perhaps that we need to at all is a failing of our own, that we can't communicate that sort of thing without describing it. but if it is, we do have that failing, and what comes off as speaking of people behind their backs is our means of compensating for it. that's ... how our group dynamic works, I think. taken another way, we try to ... distribute our efforts of communication; and, I might be going off on a limb here, but when communicating with others, one has to take into account those others' triggers and such. possibly there are people who are just naturally good at that sort of thing and can avoid them without being told (I am not aware of any, but, well), but I don't think any of us are of that sort. so we have to tell each other this sort of thing. out of context, it seems like open mockery; to us (to me, at least), it is a thought process manifest.
with that sort of thing going around -- do we seem a hateful lot? I wouldn't expect anyone who hasn't lived through the some year and a half of our thousands (myriads, perhaps even) of posts, the our corpus of context, to be able to see that and not judge harshly. that's ... why it's closed. on my part (I can't speak for the others), it's too much effort to explain. it's sensitive content, and exactly the sort of thing we'd most like to explain to people individually. and given it's been such a closed group for so long, I ... well, it would be just as hard, harder, perhaps, to absorb more people. we haven't tried that.
and then for all that we try as hard as we can, this happens and things get taken out of that much context, and everything pops.
so try to understand. and if that doesn't do ... I don't think there's much we can do. maybe someone else can explain it better.
if you can offer advice, though, it's always welcome.
okay, well, I guess it kind of is, if you're receptive to interpreting it that way. we ... weren't, not so much.
see, we generally want things to go through well; I don't think anyone would say that failure is something we want to aim for; and an abundance of evidence indicates that, well each of us doing its own thing tends to blows up in our face.
so now we generally send out at least initial messages as a collective. and we try to satisfy as much as possible. we try not to offend. (we blew it this time, but. well.) and, well, in seeking to do that, we have to identify what could offend. when we were communicating with negrek, we had terrible things to say of negrek, and we said them. we had terrible things to say of sunflower and zora then, and we said them. we have terrible things to say of phantom, and, well, as displayed above, we've said them. as a rule of thumb, we've said terrible things of everyone we've contacted collectively ever.
and there was no ill will in that, none at all in the general case. perhaps that we need to at all is a failing of our own, that we can't communicate that sort of thing without describing it. but if it is, we do have that failing, and what comes off as speaking of people behind their backs is our means of compensating for it. that's ... how our group dynamic works, I think. taken another way, we try to ... distribute our efforts of communication; and, I might be going off on a limb here, but when communicating with others, one has to take into account those others' triggers and such. possibly there are people who are just naturally good at that sort of thing and can avoid them without being told (I am not aware of any, but, well), but I don't think any of us are of that sort. so we have to tell each other this sort of thing. out of context, it seems like open mockery; to us (to me, at least), it is a thought process manifest.
with that sort of thing going around -- do we seem a hateful lot? I wouldn't expect anyone who hasn't lived through the some year and a half of our thousands (myriads, perhaps even) of posts, the our corpus of context, to be able to see that and not judge harshly. that's ... why it's closed. on my part (I can't speak for the others), it's too much effort to explain. it's sensitive content, and exactly the sort of thing we'd most like to explain to people individually. and given it's been such a closed group for so long, I ... well, it would be just as hard, harder, perhaps, to absorb more people. we haven't tried that.
and then for all that we try as hard as we can, this happens and things get taken out of that much context, and everything pops.
so try to understand. and if that doesn't do ... I don't think there's much we can do. maybe someone else can explain it better.
if you can offer advice, though, it's always welcome.
(and, um, sorry about the birthday.)
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1. Luftballon
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chah, dude
but all we ever have is tea and cod what sort of bake sale are we going to have with those
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sreservoir, I'll share with you the wisdom of half a lifetime spent on TCoD: though being quirky and indecipherable can be a lot of fun (probably not for anyone else, obviously, but you know), there are times when it helps to be understood by the people you're talking to. I think this is a situation that warrants transparency. Unless you're not actually doing it on purpose, in which case, uh... you should work on that, I guess!
Phantom, I'll share with you the wisdom of the other half lifetime: I think you have legitimate reasons for being upset, but you're just gonna make things worse for yourself (and a lot of other people) by pointing fingers and revealing private messages and pulling other people into all this drama and generally being very melodramatic in public. Sarcasm and hostility lead nowhere. Try to stay cool and level-headed (good advice in virtually any situation, if I may say so myself), then confront the people who've hurt you and talk it out with them, or just ignore them if they can't be reasoned with (though really, most people can be). Emotions aren't always easy to contain, but trust me, act calm and mature and I guarantee* you'll come out on top literally every single time.
Tailsy, I'll share with you the wisdom of the past few minutes: now that I've refreshed the thread and seen all these new posts, I'm kinda just going to sit the rest of this one out on the sidelines and let you do the "light-hearted banter to avert drama" thing. Maybe throw in a hilariously appropriate GIF for good measure. Keep up the good work!
*Not a legally binding statement.
Phantom, I'll share with you the wisdom of the other half lifetime: I think you have legitimate reasons for being upset, but you're just gonna make things worse for yourself (and a lot of other people) by pointing fingers and revealing private messages and pulling other people into all this drama and generally being very melodramatic in public. Sarcasm and hostility lead nowhere. Try to stay cool and level-headed (good advice in virtually any situation, if I may say so myself), then confront the people who've hurt you and talk it out with them, or just ignore them if they can't be reasoned with (though really, most people can be). Emotions aren't always easy to contain, but trust me, act calm and mature and I guarantee* you'll come out on top literally every single time.
Tailsy, I'll share with you the wisdom of the past few minutes: now that I've refreshed the thread and seen all these new posts, I'm kinda just going to sit the rest of this one out on the sidelines and let you do the "light-hearted banter to avert drama" thing. Maybe throw in a hilariously appropriate GIF for good measure. Keep up the good work!
*Not a legally binding statement.
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bah, that, well, of course, but my point was more that we need to bake smaller cookies. smaller, and more of them, and we can keep more in the oven so that they'll be nice and warm when we take them out!