The Gay (Marriage) Thread

[Vladimir Putin's LJ]

The Portuguese Conservatives (PSD) are proposing a civil union bill.
Knowing Portuguese politics I'm pretty sure this will prompt the Socialists to pass a marriage bill with the support of the Communists and Left Block. Fingers crossed :v

 

[Tarvos]

Well Europe is gonna get there first anyway. I suppose Denmark will get there soon too. Or hopefully France/Germany.

 

[opaltiger]

At this rate Slovenia will sign its bill by March ok give us some credit

 

[Tarvos]

Well, you're not the first, but yes, good work Slovenia.

Although you're still behind the Netherlands, you're in the top 10 countries of WHO GOT THERE FIRST WITH LEGALISED GAY MARRIAGE

 

[departuresong]

How many gay people are in Slovenia?

*noticed that Slovenia's population is half of his state's*

 

[Tarvos]

I suppose the same average as everywhere else, between 1-10%?

 

[opaltiger]

we have one of the most organised movements in Europe. First LGBT film festival in Europe, among other things.

 

[Tarvos]

hey thats cool

i'm just straight

just so you know

 

[Shiny Grimer]

The Portuguese Conservatives (PSD) are proposing a civil union bill.

Conservatives are proposing a civil union bill.

Conservatives

What is this magical land where conservatives propose civil unions?

The USA can't even have Democrats proposing a civil union bill without everyone getting all pissy, but in Portugal the conservatives are proposing a civil union bill?

I'm sorry, my mind is like blown. Umm, I guess this goes under awesome news.

AWESOME NEWS: Slovenia new Family Code ready to go to Parliament. Possibly ready by March. go slovenia go

Portugal to probably legalize gay marriage in 2010. Socialists and other center-of-left parties will probably approve it.

Not really news (October '09) but 62% of French people support gay marriage.

Kind of old but has a relevant clause: Nepal okays same-sex marriage and will possibly have a bill about it ready by 2010. Let's see if Nepal keeps its promises! The supreme Court decision in the article also said that all LGBT people were natural persons and had full rights and shiz. So nice to know that Nepal thinks that.

Washington, D.C. says same sex marriage is okay and according to an unsourced Wiki comment, could begin as early as February, 2010. Yay, D.C.~.

And I think this is kind of cute: New Hampshire same-sex marriage law takes effect after Midnight, New Year's Day. What a nice way to start the new year, New Hampshire! Wow, I actually have some hope for my country.

 

[opaltiger]

I'm sorry, my mind is like blown. Umm, I guess this goes under awesome news.

Iceland passed its civil union law unanimously.

In 1996.

 

[spaekle]

Does anyone know anything about prop 8 going to the federal supreme court? I know people have been trying to get it there, and I think I read it mentioned in passing in some article that it'd be going there this year, but I can't find anything else that confirms it.

 

[nastypass]

Iceland passed its civil union law unanimously.

In 1996.

 

[opaltiger]

Yeah, the lawyers who argued Bush v. Gore are trying to get it to SCOTUS. Which will likely take years and is a bit of a terrible idea; there simply isn't enough support on the Supreme Court to overturn it.

 

[Vladimir Putin's LJ]

What is this magical land where conservatives propose civil unions?

The USA can't even have Democrats proposing a civil union bill without everyone getting all pissy, but in Portugal the conservatives are proposing a civil union bill?

I'm sorry, my mind is like blown. Umm, I guess this goes under awesome news.

Haha, it IS cool, even though it's probably an attempt to piss of the Socialists because politicians are kids. The only parties that are really against it in Portugal are the parties right of the PSD and half or so of the PSD members. The Socialists just let everyone down by not voting for the gay marriage law (except for Manuel Alegre but he's awesome) but they said they'd do it this year and while I don't have high hopes I guess they'll do it now that even the Conservatives are pressuring them :v

In Kool Newz the leader of the Russian Orthodox church (Patriarch Kirill/Cyrill) said gays shouldn't be persecuted at all. Mindfuck ensued.
I'm sort of hoping this means this year's Moscow Pride will be mostly free of religious extremists and Nazis but it's not gonna happen. The Mayor of Moscow is a lvl.10 homophobe on top of everything so uh

 

[Shiny Grimer]

The Socialists just let everyone down by not voting for the gay marriage law

what :( socialist fail

but they said they'd do it this year and while I don't have high hopes I guess they'll do it now that even the Conservatives are pressuring them :v

I hope they'll do it this year. Quick, Europe! Go put the US to shame!

In Kool Newz the leader of the Russian Orthodox church (Patriarch Kirill/Cyrill) said gays shouldn't be persecuted at all. Mindfuck ensued.
I'm sort of hoping this means this year's Moscow Pride will be mostly free of religious extremists and Nazis but it's not gonna happen. The Mayor of Moscow is a lvl.10 homophobe on top of everything so uh

Wow, that's interesting. The amount of homophobia in Russia makes me sad, but hey, maybe that will change in the future? ...

 

[Mango]

This thread is really gay.


lolcwutididthar

 

[Tarvos]

So are you.

 

[Dannichu]

Okay, so I have a question for someone more knowledgable about UK politics than me (who will embarassingly almost certainly be someone from outside the UK); with the UK election coming up and such, all the news keeps talking about David Cameron wanting to give married couples tax benefits and such. I'm gonna guess no, but thought I'd ask: assuming this came to pass (which at the moment it may or may not), would it also apply to couples within a civil union?

(the fact I even have to ask this question is evidence for the "civil unions are rubbish" argument)

 

[Shiny Grimer]

all the news keeps talking about David Cameron wanting to give married couples tax benefits and such. Would it also apply to couples within a civil union?

http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2009/dec/09120111.html

The leader of Britain's Conservative party said yesterday that under a Tory government, same-sex partners in registered domestic partnerships would be afforded the same tax benefits as married couples.

Not sure how unbiased this site is. This quote is a little creepy:

In May this year, the Conservative party indicated that support for the homosexualist political agenda would be among the top five priorities for the party.

Homosexualist political agenda? Seriously?

 

[spaekle]

I didn't even know 'homosexualist' was a word.