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  1. Music Dragon

    Life after Death?

    You're not exactly making a case here.
  2. Music Dragon

    Life after Death?

    ... Well? So living in perfect bliss is not meaningful, but devoting your life to the worship of a deity who - when you die - will take you to a paradise of perfect bliss... is meaningful?
  3. Music Dragon

    Life after Death?

    And what meaning would this be?
  4. Music Dragon

    Life after Death?

    Yes, I think a lot of people would. It's mostly just fear and counterintuition. Definitely a step in the right direction! Yeah, but I was basing my argument on the assumption that God is omnipotent and omniscient, which seems to be the general consensus among Christians. (Coincidentally, the...
  5. Music Dragon

    Life after Death?

    Why? Isn't that purely arbitrary? And why, then, do people want to get into Paradise?
  6. Music Dragon

    Life after Death?

    I've already tried to explain this; maybe I wasn't quite clear, so try reading this instead. No, "ghastly" wouldn't exist in such a world.
  7. Music Dragon

    Life after Death?

    Sorry, haven't read that one either, though I know I should have. In any case - why would we be unimportant without free will? Or, perhaps more appropriately: what exactly makes us important now? We still have absolutely no chance of doing anything that God hasn't already predicted and himself...
  8. Music Dragon

    Life after Death?

    If God has the power to make everyone happy, then as an omnibenevolent god, he should. I'd much rather he forced happiness down our throats than eternal suffering. Admittedly I've yet to read the book, but I'm fairly sure the totalitarian government in 1984 didn't actually have complete power to...
  9. Music Dragon

    Life after Death?

    So basically, some of us are just doomed to go to Hell from the day we're born? I mean, God already knows we're on our way down, but he's not gonna change anything, is he? Personally I'd argue that they don't anyway, but that's beside the point. In any case - how is he "respecting us" by...
  10. Music Dragon

    Life after Death?

    You still haven't explained the existence of Hell, or of things that are beyond the control of us humans (natural disasters, accidents, diseases)... In any case - if God is omnipotent and omniscient, then free will cannot exist for anyone else. He knows everything that is going to happen in the...
  11. Music Dragon

    Life after Death?

    Why would he do that though? God is omniscient; surely he knows that with great power comes great responsibility! Saying that he "respects our decision" is just a prettier way of saying that he could make things better but doesn't (presumably because he doesn't exist). Don't try to pull the...
  12. Music Dragon

    Life after Death?

    Top of my head: "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."
  13. Music Dragon

    Life after Death?

    Where did we (or, rather, the scientific community) get all these ideas from? I'm not trying to criticise or refute what you're saying, I'm just curious as to how anyone could speculate meaningfully on the nature of things so distant and unfathomable (to me, at least).
  14. Music Dragon

    Life after Death?

    I think one of my worse qualities is that I am never very consistent in what I stand for... mostly because I enjoy debates and arguments. But hope, happiness and meaning are good things. Of course, faith in God may very well lead to horrible things too. And I'd rather people managed to get by...
  15. Music Dragon

    Life after Death?

    Yes, but that's pretty much the case with this whole afterlife discussion, isn't it? I can't know for sure, but I can make a pretty good guess. I think the key word here is "happiness". I honestly can't picture a scenario where something goes terribly wrong with everyone being very happy. You...
  16. Music Dragon

    Life after Death?

    I suppose, yes. I've said it a million times before and I'll say it again: truth has no inherent value. I don't see the point in thinking rationally when it comes to death and the afterlife. What you believe in will not change the truth of it; it only affects what you feel while still alive. If...
  17. Music Dragon

    Life after Death?

    Personally, I'd say it is a bit of a stretch, actually. Hurr. Why are you posting this? Why are you on this forum? Why are you even alive? On the contrary, Watershed, "whatever you think and feel" is the only rational reason to do things. Well, you can scratch "rational" if you want, but it's...
  18. Music Dragon

    Life after Death?

    Always?
  19. Music Dragon

    Life after Death?

    He's probably thinking of the electricity within the brain. sagefo, that energy doesn't suddenly disappear the moment you die; while you're alive, the brain consumes electrical energy you get from food, and when you die, the conversion stops for obvious reasons. Don't think of death as the...
  20. Music Dragon

    Life after Death?

    I find it very interesting that you're trying to support the existence of souls by citing the laws of physics. Well, pretty much, yeah. Of course, we're all human. We can't help our irrationality. But technically speaking - yes, there must.
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