Blank Canvas Mafia Game Thread

[missingno?]

Sneaking in here to add: I only have one canvas today (I think I mentioned it on my tin-foil-hat role reveal + speculation post), and its an entirely different shape, so # of canvases might not matter regarding town vs mafia assignments.

 

[Ever]

see my crackpot addition to my hypothesis is that I think the other cow is just straight up from Ephemera themself, bc the little lines makes it look like the cow is mooing at everyone, which would track well enough with Keldeo getting moo'd during the night. But I have way less basis on that so LMAO

I actually thought this too, not sure if it means anything but since Ephemera is the one putting the drawing together I thought that they were the Cow Overlord conveying the info. I also can't imagine what a cow and a speech bubble could be trying to convey, but then the same goes for sideways perhaps Otis.

hm. @Ever any idea where you're going to vote today?

I've been waffling between Dodge and missingno? all day, I was originally on Dodge for reasons of general suspicion, but then I felt like missingno? was making a lot of assumptions about drawing roles/mechanics. If we hadn't extended day, I think I would have locked in with a missingno? vote.

I like DarkAura's speculation about the drawing of Dodge and the conversation bubbles being the same person, but if (and it's a big if) I assume that harvest moon cow wasn't a player drawing, that leaves 7 tiles for either a 2/2/2/1 or 2/2/1/1/1 split ??? The only guess I would have about mewt's drawing would be maybe that she drew Dodge (since she was suspecting him) and therefore also the conversation bubbles, but I don't feel confident about that at all :,-) Sincerely hoping that the next drawing helps connect some of these dots and that we have time to work it out.

I also thought her thing about those being by the same person was interesting. Do you think this makes her more likely to be town? I was unaffected in that regard because mech spec is a very easy kind of neutral thing to do as either alignment, and also, in a closed roles game it's very easy to manipulate mech speculation to make someone look bad. I do have the definite sense that she was excited about it, but again, I don't think that's alignment indicative... it's just fun to speculate on these things! and it's something the mafia would definitely want to know too... any thoughts there?

I agree that speculating about the canvas doesn't feel AI in either direction. Overall nothing about DarkAura's posting has jumped out at me as overtly suspcious, and since they were mostly inactive on day 1 I don't really have anything in terms of a read.

Sneaking in here to add: I only have one canvas today (I think I mentioned it on my tin-foil-hat role reveal + speculation post), and its an entirely different shape, so # of canvases might not matter regarding town vs mafia assignments.

Can you elaborate on "different shape"? Do you mean like a different puzzle piece, or a different shape entirely?

 

[missingno?]

Long Rectangle

 

[Eifie]

see my crackpot addition to my hypothesis is that I think the other cow is just straight up from Ephemera themself, bc the little lines makes it look like the cow is mooing at everyone, which would track well enough with Keldeo getting moo'd during the night. But I have way less basis on that so LMAO

I actually thought this too, not sure if it means anything but since Ephemera is the one putting the drawing together I thought that they were the Cow Overlord conveying the info. I also can't imagine what a cow and a speech bubble could be trying to convey, but then the same goes for sideways perhaps Otis.

hm. @Ever any idea where you're going to vote today?

I've been waffling between Dodge and missingno? all day, I was originally on Dodge for reasons of general suspicion, but then I felt like missingno? was making a lot of assumptions about drawing roles/mechanics. If we hadn't extended day, I think I would have locked in with a missingno? vote.

I like DarkAura's speculation about the drawing of Dodge and the conversation bubbles being the same person, but if (and it's a big if) I assume that harvest moon cow wasn't a player drawing, that leaves 7 tiles for either a 2/2/2/1 or 2/2/1/1/1 split ??? The only guess I would have about mewt's drawing would be maybe that she drew Dodge (since she was suspecting him) and therefore also the conversation bubbles, but I don't feel confident about that at all :,-) Sincerely hoping that the next drawing helps connect some of these dots and that we have time to work it out.

I also thought her thing about those being by the same person was interesting. Do you think this makes her more likely to be town? I was unaffected in that regard because mech spec is a very easy kind of neutral thing to do as either alignment, and also, in a closed roles game it's very easy to manipulate mech speculation to make someone look bad. I do have the definite sense that she was excited about it, but again, I don't think that's alignment indicative... it's just fun to speculate on these things! and it's something the mafia would definitely want to know too... any thoughts there?

I agree that speculating about the canvas doesn't feel AI in either direction. Overall nothing about DarkAura's posting has jumped out at me as overtly suspcious, and since they were mostly inactive on day 1 I don't really have anything in terms of a read.

Sneaking in here to add: I only have one canvas today (I think I mentioned it on my tin-foil-hat role reveal + speculation post), and its an entirely different shape, so # of canvases might not matter regarding town vs mafia assignments.

Can you elaborate on "different shape"? Do you mean like a different puzzle piece, or a different shape entirely?

hmm, thanks, at least it's good to know I'm not being uncharitable (hopefully). I guess maybe this goes back to the middle of the pack thing, in that I think people doing things that are overtly suspicious are more likely to be town, and the mafia are the ones not making any waves, which I think describes DarkAura's behaviour this game perfectly. not that I'm actually voting her on the basis of some grand such deduction or anything thing that... it's somewhat random and science and that's just the reason why I picked her to science on.

("so Eifie, what is the result of your great science?" ...)

 

[Keldeo]

Hi! Briefly checking in before I have to go offline again, sorry for my absence. I started writing this post last night then fell asleep lol; this is from my notes app as of a couple pages ago:

Sorry in advance for thoughts without quotes, I'm on moobile.

Hope all went well, Ephemera!

Mmm... I still have my Dodge suspicions but I'm really confused by missingno's justification for his drawing. I understand that protecting me was not a primary reason and he just wanted to see what would happen, but it seemed strange that he just agreed with Eifie that swapping Mawile and me would be a way to protect me as a bonus, because I don't think he had much of a read on Mawile either. A bus driving action seems a bit more troublemaking-motivated than is warranted for their stated reasons. (Especially if it isn't clear that the canvas is made public, which from mewt's role PM it seems to not be?)

I also agree that perhaps Otis is a weird move for mafia, unless the motivation was to try to get in the way of other drawings. I'm kind of worried that I'm letting role stuff get in the way of actual reads on posts.

My take on the canvas actions is that the shepherd's announcement comes from the chat messages back and forth with perhaps Otis, and the "moo" message I got comes from the harvest moon cow talking to me. Although that's two night actions so maybe totally off base. Mewt may have drawn dodge's investigation or my investigation?

I find myself agreeing with most of kyeugh's posting and would say she is a town read (#pocketed)

I think MF's analysis is odd-but-maybe-NAI-odd bc it seems to be premised on ignoring the idea that me and Eifie could be wrong town. I don't think Butterfree is a target that has much viability today...?, but if MF is mafia I don't think she's been aiming to control the thread so.

I actually didn't notice that missingno's piece included xrunner's avatar before DarkAura pointed it out but I don't think that's actually indicative for her?

 

[Eifie]

Hi! Briefly checking in before I have to go offline again, sorry for my absence. I started writing this post last night then fell asleep lol; this is from my notes app as of a couple pages ago:

Sorry in advance for thoughts without quotes, I'm on moobile.

Hope all went well, Ephemera!

Mmm... I still have my Dodge suspicions but I'm really confused by missingno's justification for his drawing. I understand that protecting me was not a primary reason and he just wanted to see what would happen, but it seemed strange that he just agreed with Eifie that swapping Mawile and me would be a way to protect me as a bonus, because I don't think he had much of a read on Mawile either. A bus driving action seems a bit more troublemaking-motivated than is warranted for their stated reasons. (Especially if it isn't clear that the canvas is made public, which from mewt's role PM it seems to not be?)

I also agree that perhaps Otis is a weird move for mafia, unless the motivation was to try to get in the way of other drawings. I'm kind of worried that I'm letting role stuff get in the way of actual reads on posts.

My take on the canvas actions is that the shepherd's announcement comes from the chat messages back and forth with perhaps Otis, and the "moo" message I got comes from the harvest moon cow talking to me. Although that's two night actions so maybe totally off base. Mewt may have drawn dodge's investigation or my investigation?

I find myself agreeing with most of kyeugh's posting and would say she is a town read (#pocketed)

I think MF's analysis is odd-but-maybe-NAI-odd bc it seems to be premised on ignoring the idea that me and Eifie could be wrong town. I don't think Butterfree is a target that has much viability today...?, but if MF is mafia I don't think she's been aiming to control the thread so.

I actually didn't notice that missingno's piece included xrunner's avatar before DarkAura pointed it out but I don't think that's actually indicative for her?

Keldeoooo help what do we do

 

[Eifie]

Keldeoooo do you think anything of my science

 

[Eifie]

Keldeoooo why do people who are smoking keep sitting near me

 

[Eifie]

Keldeoooo gives a thumbs up to my science... I'm so happy...

 

[Keldeo]

Hi! Briefly checking in before I have to go offline again, sorry for my absence. I started writing this post last night then fell asleep lol; this is from my notes app as of a couple pages ago:

Sorry in advance for thoughts without quotes, I'm on moobile.

Hope all went well, Ephemera!

Mmm... I still have my Dodge suspicions but I'm really confused by missingno's justification for his drawing. I understand that protecting me was not a primary reason and he just wanted to see what would happen, but it seemed strange that he just agreed with Eifie that swapping Mawile and me would be a way to protect me as a bonus, because I don't think he had much of a read on Mawile either. A bus driving action seems a bit more troublemaking-motivated than is warranted for their stated reasons. (Especially if it isn't clear that the canvas is made public, which from mewt's role PM it seems to not be?)

I also agree that perhaps Otis is a weird move for mafia, unless the motivation was to try to get in the way of other drawings. I'm kind of worried that I'm letting role stuff get in the way of actual reads on posts.

My take on the canvas actions is that the shepherd's announcement comes from the chat messages back and forth with perhaps Otis, and the "moo" message I got comes from the harvest moon cow talking to me. Although that's two night actions so maybe totally off base. Mewt may have drawn dodge's investigation or my investigation?

I find myself agreeing with most of kyeugh's posting and would say she is a town read (#pocketed)

I think MF's analysis is odd-but-maybe-NAI-odd bc it seems to be premised on ignoring the idea that me and Eifie could be wrong town. I don't think Butterfree is a target that has much viability today...?, but if MF is mafia I don't think she's been aiming to control the thread so.

I actually didn't notice that missingno's piece included xrunner's avatar before DarkAura pointed it out but I don't think that's actually indicative for her?

Keldeoooo help what do we do

Hi! Briefly checking in before I have to go offline again, sorry for my absence. I started writing this post last night then fell asleep lol; this is from my notes app as of a couple pages ago:

Sorry in advance for thoughts without quotes, I'm on moobile.

Hope all went well, Ephemera!

Mmm... I still have my Dodge suspicions but I'm really confused by missingno's justification for his drawing. I understand that protecting me was not a primary reason and he just wanted to see what would happen, but it seemed strange that he just agreed with Eifie that swapping Mawile and me would be a way to protect me as a bonus, because I don't think he had much of a read on Mawile either. A bus driving action seems a bit more troublemaking-motivated than is warranted for their stated reasons. (Especially if it isn't clear that the canvas is made public, which from mewt's role PM it seems to not be?)

I also agree that perhaps Otis is a weird move for mafia, unless the motivation was to try to get in the way of other drawings. I'm kind of worried that I'm letting role stuff get in the way of actual reads on posts.

My take on the canvas actions is that the shepherd's announcement comes from the chat messages back and forth with perhaps Otis, and the "moo" message I got comes from the harvest moon cow talking to me. Although that's two night actions so maybe totally off base. Mewt may have drawn dodge's investigation or my investigation?

I find myself agreeing with most of kyeugh's posting and would say she is a town read (#pocketed)

I think MF's analysis is odd-but-maybe-NAI-odd bc it seems to be premised on ignoring the idea that me and Eifie could be wrong town. I don't think Butterfree is a target that has much viability today...?, but if MF is mafia I don't think she's been aiming to control the thread so.

I actually didn't notice that missingno's piece included xrunner's avatar before DarkAura pointed it out but I don't think that's actually indicative for her?

Keldeoooo help what do we do

idk

Do you agree with me that missingno's agreeing with you as a secondary justification for his action is weird or is that silly? (However, I am pocketed by them saying they'll tell Ephemera to let us talk -)

Did DA ever explain the Dodge vote, did I miss something?

I do actually agree xrunner's claim is +town, probably to a larger extent than you even. I feel like his posts fit better with new town not sure what to do and trying to do something, rather than mafia trying to blend in, because like, he could just have peaced out by now and no one would care, he is not a major wagon. (I suppose this is... conditional on the claim being true?)
If we assume the claimed info is true, I don't think the investigation was due to the canvas (I'm one of the people with a magnifying glass and I didn't get any info) and I don't think the investigative role should claim today.

 

[Eifie]

Hi! Briefly checking in before I have to go offline again, sorry for my absence. I started writing this post last night then fell asleep lol; this is from my notes app as of a couple pages ago:

Sorry in advance for thoughts without quotes, I'm on moobile.

Hope all went well, Ephemera!

Mmm... I still have my Dodge suspicions but I'm really confused by missingno's justification for his drawing. I understand that protecting me was not a primary reason and he just wanted to see what would happen, but it seemed strange that he just agreed with Eifie that swapping Mawile and me would be a way to protect me as a bonus, because I don't think he had much of a read on Mawile either. A bus driving action seems a bit more troublemaking-motivated than is warranted for their stated reasons. (Especially if it isn't clear that the canvas is made public, which from mewt's role PM it seems to not be?)

I also agree that perhaps Otis is a weird move for mafia, unless the motivation was to try to get in the way of other drawings. I'm kind of worried that I'm letting role stuff get in the way of actual reads on posts.

My take on the canvas actions is that the shepherd's announcement comes from the chat messages back and forth with perhaps Otis, and the "moo" message I got comes from the harvest moon cow talking to me. Although that's two night actions so maybe totally off base. Mewt may have drawn dodge's investigation or my investigation?

I find myself agreeing with most of kyeugh's posting and would say she is a town read (#pocketed)

I think MF's analysis is odd-but-maybe-NAI-odd bc it seems to be premised on ignoring the idea that me and Eifie could be wrong town. I don't think Butterfree is a target that has much viability today...?, but if MF is mafia I don't think she's been aiming to control the thread so.

I actually didn't notice that missingno's piece included xrunner's avatar before DarkAura pointed it out but I don't think that's actually indicative for her?

Keldeoooo help what do we do

Hi! Briefly checking in before I have to go offline again, sorry for my absence. I started writing this post last night then fell asleep lol; this is from my notes app as of a couple pages ago:

Sorry in advance for thoughts without quotes, I'm on moobile.

Hope all went well, Ephemera!

Mmm... I still have my Dodge suspicions but I'm really confused by missingno's justification for his drawing. I understand that protecting me was not a primary reason and he just wanted to see what would happen, but it seemed strange that he just agreed with Eifie that swapping Mawile and me would be a way to protect me as a bonus, because I don't think he had much of a read on Mawile either. A bus driving action seems a bit more troublemaking-motivated than is warranted for their stated reasons. (Especially if it isn't clear that the canvas is made public, which from mewt's role PM it seems to not be?)

I also agree that perhaps Otis is a weird move for mafia, unless the motivation was to try to get in the way of other drawings. I'm kind of worried that I'm letting role stuff get in the way of actual reads on posts.

My take on the canvas actions is that the shepherd's announcement comes from the chat messages back and forth with perhaps Otis, and the "moo" message I got comes from the harvest moon cow talking to me. Although that's two night actions so maybe totally off base. Mewt may have drawn dodge's investigation or my investigation?

I find myself agreeing with most of kyeugh's posting and would say she is a town read (#pocketed)

I think MF's analysis is odd-but-maybe-NAI-odd bc it seems to be premised on ignoring the idea that me and Eifie could be wrong town. I don't think Butterfree is a target that has much viability today...?, but if MF is mafia I don't think she's been aiming to control the thread so.

I actually didn't notice that missingno's piece included xrunner's avatar before DarkAura pointed it out but I don't think that's actually indicative for her?

Keldeoooo help what do we do

idk

Do you agree with me that missingno's agreeing with you as a secondary justification for his action is weird or is that silly? (However, I am pocketed by them saying they'll tell Ephemera to let us talk -)

Did DA ever explain the Dodge vote, did I miss something?

I do actually agree xrunner's claim is +town, probably to a larger extent than you even. I feel like his posts fit better with new town not sure what to do and trying to do something, rather than mafia trying to blend in, because like, he could just have peaced out by now and no one would care, he is not a major wagon. (I suppose this is... conditional on the claim being true?)
If we assume the claimed info is true, I don't think the investigation was due to the canvas (I'm one of the people with a magnifying glass and I didn't get any info) and I don't think the investigative role should claim today.

you are making my realize that I never actually gave his justification much thought because I was busy concentrating on the fact that he claimed the thing right after I said I think mafia did the thing. (literally I am pocketed by the same)

yes, she did. it's the post where she talks about why she thinks everyone else had 2 canvas pieces. do you have any, thought?

ok good to know about xrunner. can you stop voting him btw lol

 

[missingno?]

Mmm... I still have my Dodge suspicions but I'm really confused by missingno's justification for his drawing. I understand that protecting me was not a primary reason and he just wanted to see what would happen, but it seemed strange that he just agreed with Eifie that swapping Mawile and me would be a way to protect me as a bonus, because I don't think he had much of a read on Mawile either. A bus driving action seems a bit more troublemaking-motivated than is warranted for their stated reasons. (Especially if it isn't clear that the canvas is made public, which from mewt's role PM it seems to not be?)

I had asked Ephemera in DMs if the canvas would be public; my two questions were:
1. If everyone would know who drew what in the canvas, ANSWER was that it would be public, but who drew what would be anon
2. If I had to know someone's role to get an action to go, ANSWER was that no, I can draw any night action being done by anyone (murder prohibited, though)

 

[Keldeo]

Hi! Briefly checking in before I have to go offline again, sorry for my absence. I started writing this post last night then fell asleep lol; this is from my notes app as of a couple pages ago:

Sorry in advance for thoughts without quotes, I'm on moobile.

Hope all went well, Ephemera!

Mmm... I still have my Dodge suspicions but I'm really confused by missingno's justification for his drawing. I understand that protecting me was not a primary reason and he just wanted to see what would happen, but it seemed strange that he just agreed with Eifie that swapping Mawile and me would be a way to protect me as a bonus, because I don't think he had much of a read on Mawile either. A bus driving action seems a bit more troublemaking-motivated than is warranted for their stated reasons. (Especially if it isn't clear that the canvas is made public, which from mewt's role PM it seems to not be?)

I also agree that perhaps Otis is a weird move for mafia, unless the motivation was to try to get in the way of other drawings. I'm kind of worried that I'm letting role stuff get in the way of actual reads on posts.

My take on the canvas actions is that the shepherd's announcement comes from the chat messages back and forth with perhaps Otis, and the "moo" message I got comes from the harvest moon cow talking to me. Although that's two night actions so maybe totally off base. Mewt may have drawn dodge's investigation or my investigation?

I find myself agreeing with most of kyeugh's posting and would say she is a town read (#pocketed)

I think MF's analysis is odd-but-maybe-NAI-odd bc it seems to be premised on ignoring the idea that me and Eifie could be wrong town. I don't think Butterfree is a target that has much viability today...?, but if MF is mafia I don't think she's been aiming to control the thread so.

I actually didn't notice that missingno's piece included xrunner's avatar before DarkAura pointed it out but I don't think that's actually indicative for her?

Keldeoooo help what do we do

Hi! Briefly checking in before I have to go offline again, sorry for my absence. I started writing this post last night then fell asleep lol; this is from my notes app as of a couple pages ago:

Sorry in advance for thoughts without quotes, I'm on moobile.

Hope all went well, Ephemera!

Mmm... I still have my Dodge suspicions but I'm really confused by missingno's justification for his drawing. I understand that protecting me was not a primary reason and he just wanted to see what would happen, but it seemed strange that he just agreed with Eifie that swapping Mawile and me would be a way to protect me as a bonus, because I don't think he had much of a read on Mawile either. A bus driving action seems a bit more troublemaking-motivated than is warranted for their stated reasons. (Especially if it isn't clear that the canvas is made public, which from mewt's role PM it seems to not be?)

I also agree that perhaps Otis is a weird move for mafia, unless the motivation was to try to get in the way of other drawings. I'm kind of worried that I'm letting role stuff get in the way of actual reads on posts.

My take on the canvas actions is that the shepherd's announcement comes from the chat messages back and forth with perhaps Otis, and the "moo" message I got comes from the harvest moon cow talking to me. Although that's two night actions so maybe totally off base. Mewt may have drawn dodge's investigation or my investigation?

I find myself agreeing with most of kyeugh's posting and would say she is a town read (#pocketed)

I think MF's analysis is odd-but-maybe-NAI-odd bc it seems to be premised on ignoring the idea that me and Eifie could be wrong town. I don't think Butterfree is a target that has much viability today...?, but if MF is mafia I don't think she's been aiming to control the thread so.

I actually didn't notice that missingno's piece included xrunner's avatar before DarkAura pointed it out but I don't think that's actually indicative for her?

Keldeoooo help what do we do

idk

Do you agree with me that missingno's agreeing with you as a secondary justification for his action is weird or is that silly? (However, I am pocketed by them saying they'll tell Ephemera to let us talk -)

Did DA ever explain the Dodge vote, did I miss something?

I do actually agree xrunner's claim is +town, probably to a larger extent than you even. I feel like his posts fit better with new town not sure what to do and trying to do something, rather than mafia trying to blend in, because like, he could just have peaced out by now and no one would care, he is not a major wagon. (I suppose this is... conditional on the claim being true?)
If we assume the claimed info is true, I don't think the investigation was due to the canvas (I'm one of the people with a magnifying glass and I didn't get any info) and I don't think the investigative role should claim today.

you are making my realize that I never actually gave his justification much thought because I was busy concentrating on the fact that he claimed the thing right after I said I think mafia did the thing. (literally I am pocketed by the same)

yes, she did. it's the post where she talks about why she thinks everyone else had 2 canvas pieces. do you have any, thought?

ok good to know about xrunner. can you stop voting him btw lol

Oh sorry I did miss that. Um... I actually find noticing the canvas commonality *and then using it to make a read* to be towny haha sorry. But I think it is odd to jump on the Dodge bandwagon when missingno claims to have one canvas today (was that after the vote?)

 

[Eifie]

Hi! Briefly checking in before I have to go offline again, sorry for my absence. I started writing this post last night then fell asleep lol; this is from my notes app as of a couple pages ago:

Sorry in advance for thoughts without quotes, I'm on moobile.

Hope all went well, Ephemera!

Mmm... I still have my Dodge suspicions but I'm really confused by missingno's justification for his drawing. I understand that protecting me was not a primary reason and he just wanted to see what would happen, but it seemed strange that he just agreed with Eifie that swapping Mawile and me would be a way to protect me as a bonus, because I don't think he had much of a read on Mawile either. A bus driving action seems a bit more troublemaking-motivated than is warranted for their stated reasons. (Especially if it isn't clear that the canvas is made public, which from mewt's role PM it seems to not be?)

I also agree that perhaps Otis is a weird move for mafia, unless the motivation was to try to get in the way of other drawings. I'm kind of worried that I'm letting role stuff get in the way of actual reads on posts.

My take on the canvas actions is that the shepherd's announcement comes from the chat messages back and forth with perhaps Otis, and the "moo" message I got comes from the harvest moon cow talking to me. Although that's two night actions so maybe totally off base. Mewt may have drawn dodge's investigation or my investigation?

I find myself agreeing with most of kyeugh's posting and would say she is a town read (#pocketed)

I think MF's analysis is odd-but-maybe-NAI-odd bc it seems to be premised on ignoring the idea that me and Eifie could be wrong town. I don't think Butterfree is a target that has much viability today...?, but if MF is mafia I don't think she's been aiming to control the thread so.

I actually didn't notice that missingno's piece included xrunner's avatar before DarkAura pointed it out but I don't think that's actually indicative for her?

Keldeoooo help what do we do

Hi! Briefly checking in before I have to go offline again, sorry for my absence. I started writing this post last night then fell asleep lol; this is from my notes app as of a couple pages ago:

Sorry in advance for thoughts without quotes, I'm on moobile.

Hope all went well, Ephemera!

Mmm... I still have my Dodge suspicions but I'm really confused by missingno's justification for his drawing. I understand that protecting me was not a primary reason and he just wanted to see what would happen, but it seemed strange that he just agreed with Eifie that swapping Mawile and me would be a way to protect me as a bonus, because I don't think he had much of a read on Mawile either. A bus driving action seems a bit more troublemaking-motivated than is warranted for their stated reasons. (Especially if it isn't clear that the canvas is made public, which from mewt's role PM it seems to not be?)

I also agree that perhaps Otis is a weird move for mafia, unless the motivation was to try to get in the way of other drawings. I'm kind of worried that I'm letting role stuff get in the way of actual reads on posts.

My take on the canvas actions is that the shepherd's announcement comes from the chat messages back and forth with perhaps Otis, and the "moo" message I got comes from the harvest moon cow talking to me. Although that's two night actions so maybe totally off base. Mewt may have drawn dodge's investigation or my investigation?

I find myself agreeing with most of kyeugh's posting and would say she is a town read (#pocketed)

I think MF's analysis is odd-but-maybe-NAI-odd bc it seems to be premised on ignoring the idea that me and Eifie could be wrong town. I don't think Butterfree is a target that has much viability today...?, but if MF is mafia I don't think she's been aiming to control the thread so.

I actually didn't notice that missingno's piece included xrunner's avatar before DarkAura pointed it out but I don't think that's actually indicative for her?

Keldeoooo help what do we do

idk

Do you agree with me that missingno's agreeing with you as a secondary justification for his action is weird or is that silly? (However, I am pocketed by them saying they'll tell Ephemera to let us talk -)

Did DA ever explain the Dodge vote, did I miss something?

I do actually agree xrunner's claim is +town, probably to a larger extent than you even. I feel like his posts fit better with new town not sure what to do and trying to do something, rather than mafia trying to blend in, because like, he could just have peaced out by now and no one would care, he is not a major wagon. (I suppose this is... conditional on the claim being true?)
If we assume the claimed info is true, I don't think the investigation was due to the canvas (I'm one of the people with a magnifying glass and I didn't get any info) and I don't think the investigative role should claim today.

you are making my realize that I never actually gave his justification much thought because I was busy concentrating on the fact that he claimed the thing right after I said I think mafia did the thing. (literally I am pocketed by the same)

yes, she did. it's the post where she talks about why she thinks everyone else had 2 canvas pieces. do you have any, thought?

ok good to know about xrunner. can you stop voting him btw lol

Oh sorry I did miss that. Um... I actually find noticing the canvas commonality *and then using it to make a read* to be towny haha sorry. But I think it is odd to jump on the Dodge bandwagon when missingno claims to have one canvas today (was that after the vote?)

sobs Keldeoooo I think you're so naive but actually what I meant was do you think the thing about everyone else having 2 canvas pieces is correct

 

[missingno?]

Skittering home but i'll be back in an hour! - =͟͟͞͞ =͟͟͞͞ ﾍ( ´Д`)ﾉ

 

[missingno?]

OH also I had picked Mawile for the swap pm at random; didn't have reads on anyone, and I wanted to doodle a pokemon LOL

 

[Keldeo]

Two theories that occurred to me but I think they may not be probable:

- there are actually no mafia doodlers and the point of having many town doodlers is to get more powerful as their numbers dwindle
- Ephemera was responsible for both harvest moon cow and sideways perhaps Otis, so somehow Dodge knew that perhaps Otis would be safe to fake claim (seems a bit... mean though)

 

[Keldeo]

Hi! Briefly checking in before I have to go offline again, sorry for my absence. I started writing this post last night then fell asleep lol; this is from my notes app as of a couple pages ago:

Sorry in advance for thoughts without quotes, I'm on moobile.

Hope all went well, Ephemera!

Mmm... I still have my Dodge suspicions but I'm really confused by missingno's justification for his drawing. I understand that protecting me was not a primary reason and he just wanted to see what would happen, but it seemed strange that he just agreed with Eifie that swapping Mawile and me would be a way to protect me as a bonus, because I don't think he had much of a read on Mawile either. A bus driving action seems a bit more troublemaking-motivated than is warranted for their stated reasons. (Especially if it isn't clear that the canvas is made public, which from mewt's role PM it seems to not be?)

I also agree that perhaps Otis is a weird move for mafia, unless the motivation was to try to get in the way of other drawings. I'm kind of worried that I'm letting role stuff get in the way of actual reads on posts.

My take on the canvas actions is that the shepherd's announcement comes from the chat messages back and forth with perhaps Otis, and the "moo" message I got comes from the harvest moon cow talking to me. Although that's two night actions so maybe totally off base. Mewt may have drawn dodge's investigation or my investigation?

I find myself agreeing with most of kyeugh's posting and would say she is a town read (#pocketed)

I think MF's analysis is odd-but-maybe-NAI-odd bc it seems to be premised on ignoring the idea that me and Eifie could be wrong town. I don't think Butterfree is a target that has much viability today...?, but if MF is mafia I don't think she's been aiming to control the thread so.

I actually didn't notice that missingno's piece included xrunner's avatar before DarkAura pointed it out but I don't think that's actually indicative for her?

Keldeoooo help what do we do

Hi! Briefly checking in before I have to go offline again, sorry for my absence. I started writing this post last night then fell asleep lol; this is from my notes app as of a couple pages ago:

Sorry in advance for thoughts without quotes, I'm on moobile.

Hope all went well, Ephemera!

Mmm... I still have my Dodge suspicions but I'm really confused by missingno's justification for his drawing. I understand that protecting me was not a primary reason and he just wanted to see what would happen, but it seemed strange that he just agreed with Eifie that swapping Mawile and me would be a way to protect me as a bonus, because I don't think he had much of a read on Mawile either. A bus driving action seems a bit more troublemaking-motivated than is warranted for their stated reasons. (Especially if it isn't clear that the canvas is made public, which from mewt's role PM it seems to not be?)

I also agree that perhaps Otis is a weird move for mafia, unless the motivation was to try to get in the way of other drawings. I'm kind of worried that I'm letting role stuff get in the way of actual reads on posts.

My take on the canvas actions is that the shepherd's announcement comes from the chat messages back and forth with perhaps Otis, and the "moo" message I got comes from the harvest moon cow talking to me. Although that's two night actions so maybe totally off base. Mewt may have drawn dodge's investigation or my investigation?

I find myself agreeing with most of kyeugh's posting and would say she is a town read (#pocketed)

I think MF's analysis is odd-but-maybe-NAI-odd bc it seems to be premised on ignoring the idea that me and Eifie could be wrong town. I don't think Butterfree is a target that has much viability today...?, but if MF is mafia I don't think she's been aiming to control the thread so.

I actually didn't notice that missingno's piece included xrunner's avatar before DarkAura pointed it out but I don't think that's actually indicative for her?

Keldeoooo help what do we do

idk

Do you agree with me that missingno's agreeing with you as a secondary justification for his action is weird or is that silly? (However, I am pocketed by them saying they'll tell Ephemera to let us talk -)

Did DA ever explain the Dodge vote, did I miss something?

I do actually agree xrunner's claim is +town, probably to a larger extent than you even. I feel like his posts fit better with new town not sure what to do and trying to do something, rather than mafia trying to blend in, because like, he could just have peaced out by now and no one would care, he is not a major wagon. (I suppose this is... conditional on the claim being true?)
If we assume the claimed info is true, I don't think the investigation was due to the canvas (I'm one of the people with a magnifying glass and I didn't get any info) and I don't think the investigative role should claim today.

you are making my realize that I never actually gave his justification much thought because I was busy concentrating on the fact that he claimed the thing right after I said I think mafia did the thing. (literally I am pocketed by the same)

yes, she did. it's the post where she talks about why she thinks everyone else had 2 canvas pieces. do you have any, thought?

ok good to know about xrunner. can you stop voting him btw lol

Oh sorry I did miss that. Um... I actually find noticing the canvas commonality *and then using it to make a read* to be towny haha sorry. But I think it is odd to jump on the Dodge bandwagon when missingno claims to have one canvas today (was that after the vote?)

sobs Keldeoooo I think you're so naive but actually what I meant was do you think the thing about everyone else having 2 canvas pieces is correct

ik there was some discussion with this but I have no opinion about people's relative number of canvas pieces, sorry

 

[Keldeo]

OH also I had picked Mawile for the swap pm at random; didn't have reads on anyone, and I wanted to doodle a pokemon LOL

I do believe this regardless of alignment lol

 

[Eifie]

hmmm I think you're right Keldeo that bus driving is possibly the absolute least effective way of getting more information of how the canvas works because it just makes everything more confusing. @missingno? did you already say why you chose swapping in particular as what to draw?