PARANORMASIGHT mafia

[Natsue Yamamori]

The fact that nobody has claimed either of the shots makes me question if there is a town vig.

Best not to speculate on this right now, I imagine.

 

[Natsue Yamamori]

As much as my principles would like to keep my vote on Jun until he acquires thoughts, I do think that his recent message is a very audacious thing for an evil to consider posting.

Yoko Fukunaga

 

[Ayame Tono]

All right, I have managed to reread the game.

The universe were Mayu is mafia exists, I suppose - in that universe she jumped on voting Tetsuo as an off-hand thing to reinforce her aggressive approach/get distancing points if one of them dies, only for Richter to get on that wagon too, and then Mayu didn't feel able to get off the wagon after that without it potentially becoming damning. But I think it's a stretch, and the reread made me feel more confident in Mayu's posting in other ways, too. I feel kinda better about her than Natsue after the reread, actually - I didn't feel super great about Natsue's response to being questioned about why she didn't break the tie at EoD, which felt a little manufactured.

I did eye this:

Shogo makes sense as a town kill as the #55 to #56 progression feels almost outing given the flip (though oddly they were lost wolf) and they would have been my first choice to push today had they not been killed, but Harue isn't exactly who I was expecting the wolves to kill so it might be useful information to deduce whether a SK is laying about

It doesn't really make much sense to kill Shogo who looked really bad off of the Tetsuo flip and didn't really have many substantial reads besides (and meta wasn't a factor due to this being anon) over Natsue or someone on the Tetsuo wagon. The possibility I am worried over is that Shogo was the SK kill, Harue was killed by town and the wolves' target was either docced or they were blocked

@Mayu Chozawa In the first of these posts you suggest Shogo was a town kill and Harue might have been a serial killer, but then in the second you seem to be thinking Shogo was killed by a serial killer, Harue by town, and the mafia kill was blocked. What was the reasoning for this shift? Why would you grow to think Harue was killed by town rather than Shogo?

I don't feel super great about Yoko or Yakko, but I don't find them super scummy either. Mio I'm side-eyeing a bit for similar reasons as Mayu at one point, although the specificity of waiting for something to happen that didn't materialize doesn't feel like a lie which is a plus for her.

Not confident enough to place a vote just yet, all in all, and really need to get to bed, but I should definitely be back tomorrow to catch up, check my notes again, and place a vote.

 

[Makoto Ashimiya]

So... Yoko Fukunaga just hasn't turned up today, after all, huh? That'd follow if she'd just started trying to draw less attention after what happened yesterday. Or, y'know, if that were just that bad for thr ol' morale.

It's a wagon. Not much more to ask for today.

 

[Natsue Yamamori]

I ask you all: name at least 3 people who you would place your trust in at this moment. It matters little if you feel as if you may change your mind later - that is fine. At this moment, can you name 3 people you trust?

I have made my own trust clear so far. I would appreciate others making their stances clear as well.

 

[Mayu Chozawa]

@Mayu Chozawa In the first of these posts you suggest Shogo was a town kill and Harue might have been a serial killer, but then in the second you seem to be thinking Shogo was killed by a serial killer, Harue by town, and the mafia kill was blocked. What was the reasoning for this shift? Why would you grow to think Harue was killed by town rather than Shogo?

Just because Shogo makes sense as a town kill doesn't mean they were. Of course, the big concern right now would be that if a town vig killed them they'd be likely to claim it.

 

[Mayu Chozawa]

As much as my principles would like to keep my vote on Jun until he acquires thoughts, I do think that his recent message is a very audacious thing for an evil to consider posting.

Yoko Fukunaga

Audacious maybe given that Tetsuo got suspected for posting basically the same thing (albeit with a much more hedgy feel) but I'm still not impressed with the slot, especially since it took until you posting about it for me to even realize they posted this phase. If they refuse to contribute and town vig still has shots then you know what to do.

 

[Mayu Chozawa]

I ask you all: name at least 3 people who you would place your trust in at this moment. It matters little if you feel as if you may change your mind later - that is fine. At this moment, can you name 3 people you trust?

I have made my own trust clear so far. I would appreciate others making their stances clear as well.

I don't think people have really done much to earn trust. Even with Richter, they are being hard carried by essentially a single vote, and given that we might be dealing with a hostile ITP I don't think there's much use in hard towncoring people AORN. If I had to GTH though I'd say people unlikely to be wolf specifically are Richter, Natsue, and I guess Ayame (I don't have major issues with their posts)

 

[Natsue Yamamori]

As much as my principles would like to keep my vote on Jun until he acquires thoughts, I do think that his recent message is a very audacious thing for an evil to consider posting.

Yoko Fukunaga

Audacious maybe given that Tetsuo got suspected for posting basically the same thing (albeit with a much more hedgy feel) but I'm still not impressed with the slot, especially since it took until you posting about it for me to even realize they posted this phase. If they refuse to contribute and town vig still has shots then you know what to do.

The audacity does not make me trust Jun per se, but it does make me inclined to think that he is not the best vote today. I would hope for more from him as the game goes on, but I can only let audacity pass for so long.

Regarding posting the same as Tetsuo, I find the contexts and tones different enough such that the situations are not quite comparable.

Tetsuo made that type of post (“I don’t have many thoughts”) on Day 1, where it’s a more forgivable mindset (albeit not a productive one), and had, as you say, a hedgy and apologetic tone.
Jun, on the other hand, is making this post on Day 2, with two evil deaths and a whole cycle to read. He also makes it completely unashamedly, not that I endorse the lack of contribution.

The audacity to say you have no thoughts after two evils have died is something I do not expect from an evil whose team is bleeding hard. It is not impossible, and Jun remains my second concern, but the key word there is second.

 

[Natsue Yamamori]

I ask you all: name at least 3 people who you would place your trust in at this moment. It matters little if you feel as if you may change your mind later - that is fine. At this moment, can you name 3 people you trust?

I have made my own trust clear so far. I would appreciate others making their stances clear as well.

I don't think people have really done much to earn trust. Even with Richter, they are being hard carried by essentially a single vote, and given that we might be dealing with a hostile ITP I don't think there's much use in hard towncoring people AORN. If I had to GTH though I'd say people unlikely to be wolf specifically are Richter, Natsue, and I guess Ayame (I don't have major issues with their posts)

We do have to start somewhere. I agree that perhaps reasons for trust may be weak at this stage. Nevertheless, trust is vital.