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A different anime?

Dark Shocktail

Dark Shocktail

Millachinchilla
We can all see that the anime will never evolve beyond being a kiddies show. It's too firmly implanted into the shows core mainframe, as it always returns to the same basic plot (An attempt on Pikachu, some Gym Battle or trying to help some trainer whose having trouble with their own Pokemon) and is always centred on one main character, two if you count Pikachu too.

Ninty actually tried to split the anime up a little bit with the release of Pokemon Chronicles, but people started moaning or something and they were stopped. However, if you could make a new Pokemon anime - completely seperate - what would you do with it?

I'd personally market it and aim it at teenagers. The fans of the first gen are teenagers now and they shouldn't be forgotten about. Give it a darker edge, like with PMD2 or Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness, forget the typical "evil teams" set up and bring in some new characters too.

With the characters, they should be realistic and grow with the show. Have visible flaws, make serious mistakes, have rocky friendships/relationships. Ash and co. never seem to really argue, and if they do it's over in one episode. Everyone seems to be either hostile towards them at first and then friendly, or just friendly. And no uber Pokemon - give them loses and wins, similar to the first season of Pokemon. Granted Pikachu still won in some unfair conditions (Ash's battle for the Boulder Badge comes to mind) but it wasn't anywhere near as unpredictable or strong as it is today.

That's all I have right now...any other opinions?
 
It would a side story to Ash and co. implementing many ideas described above, and this one: Better cliffhangers.

Show our heroes in very real danger, but end the episode seconds before they go off the cliff/get caught by the evil team.
 
Have them all die.
XD
Kidding, kidding.
I completly agree with you, the first season of Pokemon was actually pretty good, now it's just repitative and it'd be great if they came up with a seperate series aimed at an older audience.
 
Yeah. The idea of a kids show is to drum morals into their minds and give them a repetitive layout.

*More ideas*

Building about the character development and relationship bit, make it complex. Have Pokemon that don't like their trainer but favor another, Pokemon that are in love/are friends with an enemies Pokemon and thus refuse to battle them. It's happened in the anime before, but only for one episode. Give these traits to recurring characters instead of the "one-offs". People too, who don't get along but are forced to travel together by some tie or promise. And no Pokemon that know random moves out the blue. Ice Beam on a Buneary? What?

Create some tension between regions. Sinnoh is all about going green, let them be at Kanto's throat over their energy use. Have Hoenn critique the Orange Islands over how they run their Pokemon league. Allow Orre and Johto to be at hammerheads over the development of technology. With political unstability as a background, it could create prejuidice between the trainers: general insulting, fighting dirty, ganging up on one lone stranger, even violence between trainers instead of just the Pokemon fighting.

Darker settings! We've all seen the trees...and those small little towns...and the odd house in the mountains...so let's see some inner city, tough urban settings! An underground fightclub with only neon lights and techno beats to enhance a Pokemon battle, labyrinth-like city structures with disused basketball courts/Pokemon arenas, an empty warehouse transformed by youths into an unofficial Pokemon Gym. Add some sharp grit and industrial charm to the happy settings we've seen so far.

Address more adult issues. Drug abuse would be easy to slip into the storyline, since many grass Pokemon exhume some sort of toxic/hallucinatic (sp) spores. It'd either have little effect and just be relaxing and calming, or seriously mess up the trainers physical state and thus their ability to battle. Relationships, such as boyfriend/girlfriend, could be explored better, and the topic of sex could even be mentioned. These wouldn't be a continous thing - as in, not EVERY episode would mention sex and drugs and such - but it could be used for story arcs.

Overall, the anime could look at the closeness between people and nature, teenage culture, the purpose of living (to fight? to explore? maybe something entirely different?) and look into things like psychology, philosophy, science etc. Basically it could become deep but light-hearted, so it wouldn't be overbearing or preachy like the games can be at points.
 
I'd want it to be a bit more clamped onto reality, with the wild Pokemon being...wild. Like the Spearow on the first few episodes. Oh, and a bit more death. Not the HAHAHADIEFOOLZ but a death similar to Brigadier General Hughes(10 points and a cookie if you get it).

More character development beyond the "Preppy Sweetheart" stuff that the current show has, and the language barrier has to go. Amp up the rating to PG13.

And as Shocktail mentioned, political tension in the background.

Overall, I want the series to have a Hagaren treatment.
 
Dark Shocktail said:
Yeah. The idea of a kids show is to drum morals into their minds and give them a repetitive layout.

*More ideas*

Building about the character development and relationship bit, make it complex. Have Pokemon that don't like their trainer but favor another, Pokemon that are in love/are friends with an enemies Pokemon and thus refuse to battle them. It's happened in the anime before, but only for one episode. Give these traits to recurring characters instead of the "one-offs". People too, who don't get along but are forced to travel together by some tie or promise. And no Pokemon that know random moves out the blue. Ice Beam on a Buneary? What?

Create some tension between regions. Sinnoh is all about going green, let them be at Kanto's throat over their energy use. Have Hoenn critique the Orange Islands over how they run their Pokemon league. Allow Orre and Johto to be at hammerheads over the development of technology. With political unstability as a background, it could create prejuidice between the trainers: general insulting, fighting dirty, ganging up on one lone stranger, even violence between trainers instead of just the Pokemon fighting.

Darker settings! We've all seen the trees...and those small little towns...and the odd house in the mountains...so let's see some inner city, tough urban settings! An underground fightclub with only neon lights and techno beats to enhance a Pokemon battle, labyrinth-like city structures with disused basketball courts/Pokemon arenas, an empty warehouse transformed by youths into an unofficial Pokemon Gym. Add some sharp grit and industrial charm to the happy settings we've seen so far.

Overall, the anime could look at the closeness between people and nature, teenage culture, the purpose of living (to fight? to explore? maybe something entirely different?) and look into things like psychology, philosophy, science etc. Basically it could become deep but light-hearted, so it wouldn't be overbearing or preachy like the games can be at points.
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All great ideas =D Apply for a job writing Pokémon anime now, Milla.

Address more adult issues. Drug abuse would be easy to slip into the storyline, since many grass Pokemon exhume some sort of toxic/hallucinatic (sp) spores. It'd either have little effect and just be relaxing and calming, or seriously mess up the trainers physical state and thus their ability to battle. Relationships, such as boyfriend/girlfriend, could be explored better, and the topic of sex could even be mentioned.
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...er... these not so much... =/

XD
 
Like what Dark Shocktail said, there should be more character development. Almost every single character is the EXACT way they've been since the beginning. (Or at least, the beginning of the Sinnoh series) Paul is a good example of someone who has character development. Which is why he's a more interesting character, and one of my favorites. All the other characters that have almost no emotion or do not change at all throughout the series are just bland and boring, and they make the show boring.
 
Actually, you have a point there Mike. Pokemon can't handle that much adultness XD Maybe just the odd smutty joke...

Anyway, I'd also like to break a tradition they seem to have - tiny shaped girls. I know that some of them are pre-teens but nearly NONE are drawn like everyday people. It's not healthy for the youth of today to see skinny anime characters XD
 
Dark Shocktail said:
Actually, you have a point there Mike. Pokemon can't handle that much adultness XD
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Clearly you've never accidentally stumbled upon any of the hentai XD Still, it just gives strength to this "Pokémon is for little kids" misconception for the series to be so kid-friendly.
 
....Actually, yeah! Let's see some blood when a Pokemon takes a REALLY bad hit, or when a trainer gets hit by a stray attack ^_^ Sweet idea Mike!
 
Dark Shocktail said:
....Actually, yeah! Let's see some blood when a Pokemon takes a REALLY bad hit, or when a trainer gets hit by a stray attack ^_^ Sweet idea Mike!
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Now that is an anime I would watch! XD

Or Game Freak could do a deal with Mondo Mini Shows/Atomfilms and get Flippy made into a Pokémon XD
 
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