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Blank Canvas Mafia Game Thread

hey all, sorry I've been absent; I've managed to get Stellaris working on this new laptop, with catastrophic results

how much time do we have yet? I'm backreading as fast as I can, but I don't think any vote I place will have time to sway anyone if it's not on-wagon
 
MF the ISOable said:
hey all, sorry I've been absent; I've managed to get Stellaris working on this new laptop, with catastrophic results

how much time do we have yet? I'm backreading as fast as I can, but I don't think any vote I place will have time to sway anyone if it's not on-wagon
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we have either 7 or 31 hours. surely we can make it 31! don't worry!
 
kyeugh said:
Eifie said:
hi everyone i'm cown
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no one will moo you off, it was one of the first jokes in this thread and it was met with raucous applause. at least that's how i imagined it, in my mindscape where every cow joke is presented to a theater audience.
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the way I'm googling cow terms and all I keep gravitating towards is "oh thank goodness, what a rebeef!"
 
Eifie said:
ok sorry I kept having to actually do my job at work but now I will talk about my silly crack theory that may or may not be just a silly crack theory. at least it would be really fun if it was right

anyway I think those two pieces of Keldeo being swapped with Mawile are really good candidates for the kinds of things a mafia member would draw to give a surface appearance of doing something good for town while not actually being all that helpful. I think this because I'm pretty sure no one actually expressed any sort of town lean on Keldeo d1 (except me a little, vaguely). so it feels like a town motivation (protect Keldeo by potentially making kill attempts on him go to Mawile instead) is actually less likely than a mafia motivation (if a vig tries to resolve Mawile for us overnight, they might kill Keldeo instead). (this would only make sense if Keldeo is town, though.) and well, also kinda the fact that one person got two pieces while I think everyone else probably got one, but that's more minor.

and I mean yeah those pieces were probably completely irrelevant to the canvas because Mawile died but I assume either the drawer didn't have a chance to draw something else or they wanted to make that excuse
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I was the Keldeo-Mawile swapper. |˶˙ᵕ˙ )ﾉﾞ I mostly wanted to get a feel about how the actions overnight might be interpreted since there are other doodlers on the canvas, and if it had the added bonus of keeping Keldeo from dying, that would be better because #bigbrain is good (unless it's evil). I wasss unfortunately not able to make edits before the EOD voting speedround so Mawile stayed Mawile, so it ended up being a misfire.

Didn't realized other people (allegedly) only got one canvas. I am an Idea Doodler as well (hi dodge), and I'm pretty sure I'm implied to have a mafia-flavored counterpart because of the name my Idea-Doodler role was given (Yang, implying a Yin). I'm wondering if that means that my counterpart has gotten two canvasses today instead of me. It would also be really funny if all the doodlers are town, and it's Actually Fine (considering mental blocks are meant to... Not... Doodle? flavor-wise anyway?) - but I doubt it, but not enough to 100% toss out the possibility.

It does make me a little squinty that all Doodlers thus far are Allegedly Town. This does make me more sus ඞ of Dodge.

Also makes it hard to tell how many Doodlers(tm) there are if the amount of canvases received are inconsistent; I only recieved one today.

I've been waffling between role-dropping or not, but I figure, what the hell, more info for people who are more experienced townies than I (´∀｀；)

Did also note there's not as much heat on me at the moment, wondering if it's because an investigation did go off from the canvas and someone isn't bringing it up; THOUGH I've also been gone for most of the past couple-a days and a couple of youse mentioned waiting for me to get back so! Maybe a moot speculation point.
 
okay, so, first off: last EoD, the Mawile wagon kinda fizzled, then kinda got rekindled. considering the flip, it's not the best look on any of the four people who made it happen, but it is also very unsubtle; it'd only really be worth the while if the purpose were to prevent an outcome that's much worse for scum

Butterfree's initial vote on Mawile doesn't seem to fit the bill. at the time, there was a three-way tie between Dodge, myself, and abstaining; nothing that would give the wolves too little maneuvering room, short of the scumteam being exactly Dodge and myself and Butterfree (which is to me self-evidently wrong because I know I'm town, but for the rest of yall, either me and Butterfree being co-wolves is extremely unlikely, or I'm a goddamn genius, and I don't advise betting on the latter case all things considered)

closer to EoD, though, Eifie and Keldeo decisively steer the vote away from Butterfree and onto Mawile -- which, if either or both are wolves with Butterfree, would be unsubtle but necessary, and would also shed new light on the whole desperate search for an alternate wagon before parking on Mawile

so, going into toDay, I think the most concrete scumteam I have is Butterfree and one of Keldeo and Eifie; at least, that's what I get assuming that every member of the scumteam has been one of the more engaged players and not one of the ones that skated around doing not much and being generally illegible

Night passes, and Mewtini gets offed. which would admittedly be an odd move for the above scumteam, who would presumably not be trying to draw further attention to the Butterfree wagon by confirming one of the people that were on it. (I'm not too swayed by any arguments towards this likely being the work of a scumteam that didn't key onto how excited Mewtini was to play with kyeugh, though; sure, newer players wouldn't cotton onto it or necessarily care much, but older players could and would use that sort of thing as cover. plus, someone has to die and it's never a fun decision to make)

now, toDay, we're down two villas in a small game, so I think it's fair to assume that we're not too far from losing, and more importantly, that the scum have more of a finger on the scale toDay provided that they're all active; that way lies good reason to be extra worried about any wagon that moves along a little too smoothly -- which is exactly what that Dodge wagon strikes me as. it'd be extra unsubtle, but if mafia were poised to win on the next miselim + kill, no one has to worry about looking bad on toDay's flip. and what a coindink! everyone who yesterDay's flip indicts, hopped on that wagon toDay. and the reasoning that went with it feels iffy, too, considering that a) Dodge hopped onto Mawile at the moment that would've been least beneficial as a wolf (my wagon was right there and no one would've glanced sideways at him hopping on there) and b) odd reasoning is more or less to be expected from an inexperienced player, especially working with as thin of a day as yesterDay was.

fwiw, I do think Keldeo not silently allowing the hammer to come down is a mild positive indicator, and while I fully believe Dodge's claim, I also wouldn't be surprised if that role were given to both town and scum. there's little time for mechspec right now, though!

anyway, call it a tunnel if you must, but I will Vote: Butterfree as she's the centerpiece of any fully active scumteam yesterDay (which is far from a given, I'll grant, but hey, best to aim first at scum who are potentially actually playing the daygame, isn't it?).

did I miss anything?
 
I don't have much time and I don't know who to vote, so I won't today.

Hopefully I will be able to come up with something for Day 3.

(Btw I won't really be avaliable until Friday)
 
missingno? said:
Eifie said:
ok sorry I kept having to actually do my job at work but now I will talk about my silly crack theory that may or may not be just a silly crack theory. at least it would be really fun if it was right

anyway I think those two pieces of Keldeo being swapped with Mawile are really good candidates for the kinds of things a mafia member would draw to give a surface appearance of doing something good for town while not actually being all that helpful. I think this because I'm pretty sure no one actually expressed any sort of town lean on Keldeo d1 (except me a little, vaguely). so it feels like a town motivation (protect Keldeo by potentially making kill attempts on him go to Mawile instead) is actually less likely than a mafia motivation (if a vig tries to resolve Mawile for us overnight, they might kill Keldeo instead). (this would only make sense if Keldeo is town, though.) and well, also kinda the fact that one person got two pieces while I think everyone else probably got one, but that's more minor.

and I mean yeah those pieces were probably completely irrelevant to the canvas because Mawile died but I assume either the drawer didn't have a chance to draw something else or they wanted to make that excuse
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I was the Keldeo-Mawile swapper. |˶˙ᵕ˙ )ﾉﾞ I mostly wanted to get a feel about how the actions overnight might be interpreted since there are other doodlers on the canvas, and if it had the added bonus of keeping Keldeo from dying, that would be better because #bigbrain is good (unless it's evil). I wasss unfortunately not able to make edits before the EOD voting speedround so Mawile stayed Mawile, so it ended up being a misfire.

Didn't realized other people (allegedly) only got one canvas. I am an Idea Doodler as well (hi dodge), and I'm pretty sure I'm implied to have a mafia-flavored counterpart because of the name my Idea-Doodler role was given (Yang, implying a Yin). I'm wondering if that means that my counterpart has gotten two canvasses today instead of me. It would also be really funny if all the doodlers are town, and it's Actually Fine (considering mental blocks are meant to... Not... Doodle? flavor-wise anyway?) - but I doubt it, but not enough to 100% toss out the possibility.

It does make me a little squinty that all Doodlers thus far are Allegedly Town. This does make me more sus ඞ of Dodge.

Also makes it hard to tell how many Doodlers(tm) there are if the amount of canvases received are inconsistent; I only recieved one today.

I've been waffling between role-dropping or not, but I figure, what the hell, more info for people who are more experienced townies than I (´∀｀；)

Did also note there's not as much heat on me at the moment, wondering if it's because an investigation did go off from the canvas and someone isn't bringing it up; THOUGH I've also been gone for most of the past couple-a days and a couple of youse mentioned waiting for me to get back so! Maybe a moot speculation point.
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>:O!!

hmmm... at first glance I'm not sure you strike me as the type to brazenly claim the thing I just said I thought the mafia were doing if you are mafia, what with all the just a little guy stuff, and there would be no reason for you to do so right now... well actually I guess maybe you would have no choice but to say so now.

any particular reason why you chose Keldeo to try to protect? it didn't seem like you had a read on him.
 
Eifie said:
>:O!!

hmmm... at first glance I'm not sure you strike me as the type to brazenly claim the thing I just said I thought the mafia were doing if you are mafia, what with all the just a little guy stuff, and there would be no reason for you to do so right now... well actually I guess maybe you would have no choice but to say so now.

any particular reason why you chose Keldeo to try to protect? it didn't seem like you had a read on him.
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I'm a mystery, an enigma, an anomaly, and most important of all: I'm trying my best ( •̯́ ₃ •̯̀)

Chose Keldeo because, while I'm a little bit anxious about how good he is at directing the Tone of the day, they DID help me engage a bunch and the questions/pressuring seems to be helpful in getting more overall info, so at the time that seemed good to have stay in the game overall.
 
MF the ISOable said:
that's what I get assuming that every member of the scumteam has been one of the more engaged players and not one of the ones that skated around doing not much and being generally illegible
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this feels like a huge "assuming" to me. is there a particular reason you're inclined towards it?

MF the ISOable said:
(I'm not too swayed by any arguments towards this likely being the work of a scumteam that didn't key onto how excited Mewtini was to play with kyeugh, though; sure, newer players wouldn't cotton onto it or necessarily care much, but older players could and would use that sort of thing as cover. plus, someone has to die and it's never a fun decision to make)
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not really sure i fully believe the theory about scum being newer based on the mewt shot either, but i don't fully believe it because it's vibes-based and unfalsifiable—"old players could and would use that sort of thing as cover" feels very weak to me. i do not really believe there were any old heads in here playing 4d chess shooting mewt specifically under the assumption that it would implicate new players for not realizing she was excited to be in the thread. that is pretty arcane.
 
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