Forum Revival TV Tropes Mafia Revival - D7

[Zori]

this may be a counterproductive question but what is your distinction between town/probably town? i realize this is like. weird to ask. i'm kind of confused because if i were like, Not Myself, i don't know that i'd rank myself over panini or emmy when i haven't been involved in anything mechanically confirming (and your other two top-tier reads both have mech clears)

Town: Mechanically cleared or have been acting extremely townie
Probably Town: Have been acting fairly townie, could be mafia, but I doubt it
Maybe Town: Have been acting sort of townie, can be mafia, but quite a few people to lynch before them

 

[mewtini]

btw in light of kokorico i agree with everyone else (to the point of this maybe not being worth saying, but if y'all haven't noticed i have a need to Talk A Lot) that uh. insane reevaluation is in order

with the awkward context of the post right above me, can people re-convince me that emmy is town? i know my (very experimental) push on her in early game was dumb at the time but now i'm a little squinty paranoid again

agree w seshas that getting VM/seri/flora figured out is. good
does outgroup kokorico mean that stryke is just a question mark? (also why tf did e flip non-maf? is the theory that mawile was lying about being outgroup? ... also this reopens the possibility of jack being mafia)

 

[mewtini]

with the awkward context of the post right above me,

ok this post was no longer above me by the time seshas posted. it was funnier before.

 

[Zori]

I'm personally not convinced but I should probably re-look at interactions with M&F

 

[IndigoClaudia]

M&F is s u s p i c i o u s.

 

[Ottercopter]

with the awkward context of the post right above me, can people re-convince me that emmy is town? i know my (very experimental) push on her in early game was dumb at the time but now i'm a little squinty paranoid again

If we're assuming that JackPK was the evil doctor (and outgroup), then there's not much basis for IndigoEmmy as mafia to get the MI tidbit about how there are nanomachine and magic doctors. All we had to go on at the time was that Negrek confirmed JackPK was a Deadly Doctor, and that doesn't necessarily hint at that. I dunno why the mafia would know otherwise. Honestly, between the two, Seshas's "The mafia have someone pulling the strings behind the curtain" is a much less certain bit of information.
(I'm still not giving Mawile's post any credence)

 

[Zori]

If we're assuming that JackPK was the evil doctor (and outgroup), then there's not much basis for IndigoEmmy as mafia to get the MI tidbit about how there are nanomachine and magic doctors. All we had to go on at the time was that Negrek confirmed JackPK was a Deadly Doctor, and that doesn't necessarily hint at that. I dunno why the mafia would know otherwise. Honestly, between the two, Seshas's "The mafia have someone pulling the strings behind the curtain" is a much less certain bit of information.
(I'm still not giving Mawile's post any credence)

I mean, it's possible Emmy is a Subverted Trope: Mysterious Informant or something like that

 

[Novae]

Sorry I had an assignment due literally right now that I forgot about

Lemme read the cliffsnotes

 

[Zori]

yay he's back

 

[Novae]

Oh yeah I do remember thinking RNP was probably a third party lyncher/executioner because of his death flavor

 

[mewtini]

M&F is s u s p i c i o u s.

hehe just to clarify we are voting MF either way, i think (if we aren't, i WILL guilt trip you guys with keldeo's last words, as seen below!) but we still need to figure out where tf we're going after this

If we have a mechanically confirmed mafia on the table, I think it's probably best to just lynch the mafia over anyone else. Even if we seem to have some way to vig the mafia or we're not sure of the confirm.

Honestly, between the two, Seshas's "The mafia have someone pulling the strings behind the curtain" is a much less certain bit of information.

i still think that even if you ignore mawile's post (which is what i'm now doing as well) seshas' MI tidbit is still so not a reason to suspect them when mafia probably do have at least some distortion role and i think their other behavior has been nonsuspect and not at all feeling like a fake. i hear you on the doctor situation though, i just don't think emmy sounds uncoached and she is one of the active players - part of why i backed off (aside from it being way too early for me to have pushed on her way back when) was that the MI role seemed really dumb for a mafiosa to have lol. i'm not like, scumleaning her really, i just don't feel confident about her still and i think we need to be looking at everyone all over again. beginning with low-confidence reads

 

[kyeugh]

also this reopens the possibility of jack being mafia

i thought we were pretty much agreed this was likely the case

 

[mewtini]

also this reopens the possibility of jack being mafia

i thought we were pretty much agreed this was likely the case

i thought so too but there was some brief doubt, i think, if VM lied or something? idk. i may be making things up accidentally

 

[Zori]

Emmy can be town for now until we find something incriminating

 

[kyeugh]

there was but i think vm's post about why it wouldn't make sense for him to have lied cleared it up pretty well

 

[mewtini]

yeah that's how i feel. i just feel like she never settled into confirmed town for me like she did for everyone else so i wanted to bring it back up

 

[kyeugh]

Emmy can be town for now until we find something incriminating

Oh gosh... i'm suspicious.

 

[Zori]

We now know for a fact that out-group flips as non-mafia
Speculating on Jack's alignment seems kind of pointless since we get literally no interactions from it

 

[Novae]

Right so

I haven't been reading closely enough to have any thoughts but I do have a claim that should explain a couple minor things

 

[IndigoClaudia]

How would one be a Subverted Mysterious Informant?