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Have changes you'd like to see made to the ASB league?

Perhaps lower the number of happypoints a three-stage evolution line requires to evolve?

Because five happypoints plus a battle with an oval stone seems a bit much to get a Death Nurse.
 
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but is there a place that lists all the current items in use and their effects? If not, a sticky with that info would be nice.
 
Mike the Foxhog said:
Another suggestion regarding the Dex Registry- can the movepool size restriction be widened a little? 4 egg and tutor moves per line (not including the tutor moves you're allowed free because everything else learns them) seems pretty stingy since most canon Pokémon seem to learn an awful lot more. And a maximum of 48 out of 100 TMs and HMs per Pokémon at its third stage of evolution seems few to me, especially if one's trying to get a Normal-type through, which historically need to learn TMs of moves they really have no business using.

Perhaps you could get the opportunity to add tutor moves as a Pokémon evolves, like you can level-up and TM moves, and the rules could be changed for fakemon with only two stages, since the current system treats them like basic and stage-one Pokémon in a three-stage line.
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No time to discuss this now, deferring to next post.

sreservoir said:
perhaps set two-stage to be equivalent to second-third, and standalones equivalent to seconds, for consistency with attack and energy cost modifiers.

oh, and furret has 45 tm/hms. just for reference.
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I might do that.

Blastoise said:
Perhaps lower the number of happypoints a three-stage evolution line requires to evolve?

Because five happypoints plus a battle with an oval stone seems a bit much to get a Death Nurse.
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I don't think it would make sense to have happiness be contingent upon evolution line situation... some pokémon are harder to get than others.

Kammington said:
Happiness is ridiculously hard to acquire. It's akin to getting six exp points, really.
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You get the same number of happiness points as you would experience for any battle. How is it harder to acquire than EXP?

Blastoise said:
Also the referee's free-capture system seems skewed a bit high; sixteen battles for a $30 poké seems slightly ridiculous.
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I might lower it a bit, but the free capture is supposed to be a cool bonus rather than a major incentive. Anyone who completes a significant number of battles can easily buy a large number of pokémon anyway, unless they lust only after rarity sevens and eights or something.

Shadow Serenity said:
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but is there a place that lists all the current items in use and their effects? If not, a sticky with that info would be nice.
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There isn't at the moment, and I'm not inclined to copy and paste all the descriptions into one place. I may make an index of all the posts that contain item information.

Rushed post is rushed, sorry.
 
Let's put it this way: it takes the same amount of experience to get an Azumarill as it does to get a Tyranitar.

It just seems like a bit too much.
 
I think that the base PP for a move should be put into the Attacks and Abilities Guide. It's annoying to switch back and forth between here and Bulbapedia to look up energy and damage.
 
Mike the Foxhog said:
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Another suggestion regarding the Dex Registry- can the movepool size restriction be widened a little? 4 egg and tutor moves per line (not including the tutor moves you're allowed free because everything else learns them) seems pretty stingy since most canon Pokémon seem to learn an awful lot more. And a maximum of 48 out of 100 TMs and HMs per Pokémon at its third stage of evolution seems few to me, especially if one's trying to get a Normal-type through, which historically need to learn TMs of moves they really have no business using.

Perhaps you could get the opportunity to add tutor moves as a Pokémon evolves, like you can level-up and TM moves, and the rules could be changed for fakemon with only two stages, since the current system treats them like basic and stage-one Pokémon in a three-stage line.
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Polling ten second-stage pokémon I cam up with an average of 43 TM's/HM's (range 32-59), so 48 seems entirely reasonable to me. I will probably add a couple more move tutor slots and perhaps one or two more egg moves.

I would be more likely to redo evolution lines in the way that sreservoir suggested.

Kammington said:
Let's put it this way: it takes the same amount of experience to get an Azumarill as it does to get a Tyranitar.

It just seems like a bit too much.
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The azumarill line is rather an outlier in any case, but I will probably lower happiness requirements slightly.

Psymon said:
I think that the base PP for a move should be put into the Attacks and Abilities Guide. It's annoying to switch back and forth between here and Bulbapedia to look up energy and damage.
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I am redoing my damage and energy scale so that at least damaging moves no longer use PP to determine energy cost. If I keep PP in use for determining the energy cost of non-damaging attacks, I might add either a base energy value or a PP cost to the A&AG.
 
Maybe lower happy points to about four? I've found that Pokemon that evolve through happiness in the games don't require too much effort to raise (my Budew evolved at around lv. 12, iirc).

In addition, I'd probably skew the pro rarities a bit. I find it ridiculous that you can get a Spiritomb for less than an Unown; I understand you use catch rates, but it still creates some problems.
 
Kammington said:
Maybe lower happy points to about four? I've found that Pokemon that evolve through happiness in the games don't require too much effort to raise (my Budew evolved at around lv. 12, iirc).

In addition, I'd probably skew the pro rarities a bit. I find it ridiculous that you can get a Spiritomb for less than an Unown; I understand you use catch rates, but it still creates some problems.
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Yes, happiness points will go down to four.

You... already told me you don't like the rarity list.
 
I did? Well, I dislike it so much that it needed to be mentioned twice, I guess.

I wouldn't make any drastic overhauls, but it's still unindicative of how rare or difficult to find they are.
 
try egg cycles. they tend to stay consistent between evolutions, at least. since we don't have any unhatchables, some price could probably be worked out. (I think the last thread about legendaries said that they didn't have many advantages other than movepools with moves they have no business using.)
 
By egg cycles you mean how many steps it takes to hatch an egg from that evolutionary line? From what I can see, they don't split pokémon into enough reasonably-sized groups to be used as rarities.
 
Ah. I'm not sure how that would help, though, since the problem is too few groups of a reasonable size, with all pokémon within a given group requiring the same number of steps. So performing the same operation on all of them would give you the same distribution, although each group would be defined by a different number of steps than before.
 
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