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I'm vaguely interested in metal but I don't really know where to start

Teh Ebil Snorlax said:
Some of my preferred metal bands;

System of a Down, Scars on Broadway, Serj Tankian, Outcry Collective, Avenged Sevenfold, Cancer Bats, Linkin Park, KoRn, Slipknot, Papa Roach, Rammestein, Marilyn Manson, Bring Me the Horizon, Rolo Tomassi, Metallica, Trivium, Satyricon, Amon Amarth, Alexisonfire, Black Lungs and Wolverine.
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I did you a favor and crossed out all of the bands that aren't metal.

Is it possible for people to be this stupid?
 
Rammstein most certainly aren't metal in the traditional sense... they follow some of the artistic conventions, but they are, at their heart, neue deutsche härte - which is an offshoot of electronic music, not metal.

But yeah, I see where you're coming from, and I guess they're heavy enough to be called "metal", but... it's just a pet peeve.
 
Iono, they call themselves Tanzmetall (German for dance metal), and I always qualify them as industrial metal (industrial being the electronic genre, and then metal). I always thought they just married both, so I considered them metal as well as industrial.
 
Neue deutsche härte itself isn't metal, but the thing that really confuses people (including myself) is when bands like Rammstein and Oomph! add metal elements to it. But bands like L'Âme Immortelle, ASP, Letzte Instanz, etc. aren't metal.
 
Retsu said:
Neue deutsche härte itself isn't metal, but the thing that really confuses people (including myself) is when bands like Rammstein and Oomph! add metal elements to it. But bands like L'Âme Immortelle, ASP, Letzte Instanz, etc. aren't metal.
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No no, I agree, but Rammstein clearly are very metal-influenced, and so are Pain (industrial metal project of Peter Tagtgren, which I am incidentally gonna see this Friday)
 
It's not a matter of having "expertise" or not. Those bands simply don't sound metal in any sense of the word - to the point where it's plainly obvious.
 
Retsu said:
It's not a matter of having "expertise" or not. Those bands simply don't sound metal in any sense of the word - to the point where it's plainly obvious.
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Well, yes, it may be plainly obvious to someone who, like you, is well-acquainted with the metal genre and takes music seriously. But I wouldn't accuse anyone of being stupid for considering Avenged Sevenfold and Slipknot metal.
 
cause they play on a shit day in a shit place which I can't reach quickly enough. i am finished at like 17:30 and the gig starts at 7 and I need to travel like an hour to get there and eat in the meanwhile

and the openers are Obituary, Keep of Kalessin and Legion of the Damned so there's no reason to miss out really.

that and I already have seen Amon Amarth when they opened for Slayer a while back.
 
Retsu said:
I did you a favor and crossed out all of the bands that aren't metal.

Is it possible for people to be this stupid?
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Try distracted. I was a bit busy with some significantly more important things and I started confusing similar genres. And System are metal imho.
 
Teh Ebil Snorlax said:
Try distracted. I was a bit busy with some significantly more important things and I started confusing similar genres. And System are metal imho.
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This reeks of pathetic excuse. Why not just admit that you aren't quite sure of the exact boundaries between "metal" and "hard rock"? There's no shame in that...
 
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