I should clarify that the policy lynch idea was less "eh, he's probably town but we should get rid of him anyway" and more "I don't know what to make of all this yet, but there might be a good reason to lynch either way". in retrospect, though, that sort of thinking's just kind of lazy, ahah. I'm glad we have a better idea now, although it's not really going to be a lot of value if everyone's not on board. which isn't me pressuring everyone to be on board, anyway, although it does mean I should either convince everyone to be on board or drop it
keldeo's objection was that, if we just leave the mafia be on that matter, we're potentially just convincing them to waste their power roles on something of relatively little use, right? thing is, the same goes for town. if we have a cop, is it better for them to have more useful checks or a gun? if we have a doc, is it better for them to stay after probable mob targets -- as opposed to someone they have little incentive to kill right now -- or a gun? I'd argue that the watcher plan is the most value we can really get out of this situation without putting people at risk of running afoul of a mob bomb or something nastier.
(I'm liberally summarizing the potential benefits here as "a gun" because, like, that's the only one I can think of and which has been brought up so far. I'm wondering though, would it be beneficial for mr ultracool to actually claim what the potential benefits for visitors is? assuming truthfulness, he's already overshared a lot so far, and it might be better for everyone if we know what the mob is potentially getting out of this if they take the bait; at the same time, it's possible that some of the benefits would work best against the mob if they don't see it coming. hmmmmmmmm.)
as for jack, a lot of people have been saying that I'm overestimating the extent of Jack's FOS on Seshas, so I went to have a doublecheck about whether I was seeing things and... I gotta admit, I could swear I saw some more overt posts that just aren't there now. if I gave myself that impression, though, it must've been because Jack's read struck me as more of a blatant OMGUS (that's what the term was, thanks keldeo) than it might have other people, so, I tried to reverse engineer whatever rationale skipped my consciousness there, and I have it now. I think I just found his reasoning for suspecting Seshas highly unconvincing, and it tripped red flags when it was coming on the heels of Seshas himself being one of the most vocal "mechspec is for scum" people
I'd rather lynch on something stronger, anyway, but I was already going to say I don't really intend for the votes on Jack to turn into a bandwagon; we still have a lot of discussing to do. we do, however, need at least two even vaguely good votes on
someone -- even if that someone is, barf, the abstain bin -- in case mist doesn't come back in time to uncast that meme vote from earlier,
lastly,
@mewtini, I gotta at least say for myself, this is more like my usual game looks like -- I'm an aggressive player. Eifie even noticed that part of me wasn't quite as there as usual back in tvt (although again, I'm positive this has a lot less to do with my alignment than with the fact that my head is above the water this time). hate to bring the mood down for ya, but one's gotta play to their understanding of the game, I suppose. (although the amount of jokes I've made at your expense so far might not've helped, so apologies if I've been getting carried away with the horseplay,)
