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Alliances Mafia: An Experimental Alternate Mafia

Polymetric Sesquialtera said:
That's actually kind of my intention! Sort of like how you and I were an obvious team in Username Mafia, I think it'd be an interesting twist to be like "is this person on the same alliance as everyone who voted for x player... or are they doing it for their own alliance/benefit?" If a lot of people agree, though, I'll make it secret votes.
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I'm not sure how it would work otherwise. If you were part of team X and a spy in team Y, then the other people in Y would be able to tell based on your voting record. But if the votes are secret, then we are free to be traitorous, manipulative bastards :D
 
I agree with secret votes! Allows for more evil manipulation and stuffs >:)
 
Alright then, secret votes it is. (Dunno why I didn't think of that.) Is that allowing discussion in the day thread but voting secretly or no discussion at all?
 
yiran said:
Well, since selfish is a purely negative trait, this would make selfish players have at least SOME advantage over non-selfish ones.

...still your game, still your choice.
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Yeah, but I... don't really see how that would work. Maybe the selfish players could be one-shot bulletproof, or something?

Agreeing with secret votes; otherwise, there might be a problem with it mostly being a popularity contest. (Although maybe I'm worrying over nothing?)
 
First of all can I say this is brilliant. In fact, it's a bit like an idea I was starting to toy around with for the sequel to an upcoming mafia game, but I'll keep that under wraps for now.

Secret votes and day discussion both seem like a good idea. One suggestion is to maybe put a limit on how many times you can change alliances? I dunno, I just see people jumping around constantly from boat to boat whenever they feel the slightest bit of sinking. Also, how are you planning at this point to determine hit priority? RNG? And then, are you going to give these priority numbers to the killers as leverage info/ gambit material?
 
yiran said:
Well, since selfish is a purely negative trait, this would make selfish players have at least SOME advantage over non-selfish ones.
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Thing is though the selfish players and the non-selfish are supposed to be on legitimately equal terms. It's very easy to hide the selfish trait, so I figured special treatment wasn't necessary. If people do feel like selfish players have an unfair disadvantage I might go with one-hit bulletproof though.

Light said:
Secret votes and day discussion both seem like a good idea. One suggestion is to maybe put a limit on how many times you can change alliances? I dunno, I just see people jumping around constantly from boat to boat whenever they feel the slightest bit of sinking.
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Agreed. Will determine once I see how many people are playing.

Also, how are you planning at this point to determine hit priority? RNG? And then, are you going to give these priority numbers to the killers as leverage info/ gambit material?
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Where is priority involved...? As far as I'm aware nothing in my plans so far requires priority...
 
It seems like an alliance with a bunch of healers and even just one killer would be horribly overpowered. I just don't think two roles works. I can see how you're trying to balance it with the selfish people, etc. but I'm afraid it'll just be a repeat of TV Tropes where the mafia sort of imploded on itself.

Not saying I don't like the concept -- my alliance was key for victory in Walker's original Pokémafia (even though opal almost backstabbed us) and that was fun.
 
Chalumeau said:
It seems like an alliance with a bunch of healers and even just one killer would be horribly overpowered.
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Which is why there's half healers and half killers: then alliances are more likely to have killers and then it's (mostly) on equal terms. Do you have any ideas to balance the game further?

Maimi said:
Isn't it typical for both kills to go through in that case?
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Which is what I'm planning on doing.
 
plugging this again cause people would be nice
I'd like at least four more participants but if we can get more than that, well, good. Would prefer an even number of players.
 
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