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Cats (2019) Mafia

ultracool ingroup, herbe not group - people voting ultracool late @ 8v2 then voting herbe @ EoD look bad
ultracool ingroup, herbe ingroup - probably same as above+people not voting look bad
ultracool outgroup, herbe not group - people parked on ultracool before 8v2 look bad?
ultracool outgroup, herbe ingroup - people parked on ultracool look bad, herbe voters look very good
 
if both UC and herbe were maf, i’d imagine maf would want to bus UC first bc w!herbe’s role is likely more powerful

i don’t subscribe to w!herbe but it’s something to think about
 
@ mewtini, you said you have reason to trust skylar? trying to figure out where everyone stands in my brain
yup. i'm pretty certain about it. it is by [redacted] though.
to recap/revise because i'm avoiding Work and i didn't have time to give some short rationales last time:

towncore:
me, because i am The Best Mafia Player, and Person, Alive
rari, for reasons
skylar, for reasons (reasserting that this and the above reasons make rari/skylar locktown for me)
emmy, because i believe her copclaim and also i like being copchecked as green
herbe, because [redacted]
bfree, by role

town, not quite core (ordered):
VM, by jennyanydots counterclaim (could go up, i only am not because the ones above are more mech-related)
trebek, for his EoD and flip between herbe/ultracool
rnp, for the hard not-copclaim (a little ways below trebek imo)
kokorico, kind of unsure but the myuma defense and lovers remark look good for em. there is a reason i put em at the bottom of this list but i need to figure something else out first.

hmmmmm (orderedish):
tofu, could be newbie town/i'll follow VM for a bit in trusting her, but she hasn't said anything that would convince me to move her into the above tier
mist, gave some off-the-cuff reads ("VM town for herbe paranoia") but is pretty null tbh. i liked superjolt's posting but it wasn't super alignment-indicative either
m+7, liked his posting early on but also didn't know if it was all that AI and his lurking hasn't really helped. also iirc did not look great during the ultracool thing but admittedly he and i were both reading ultracool's posting as innocent
keldeo, for starting the herbe train and trying to keep a town PR wagon going. also maybe confbias but i'm pretty sure that everyone in my towncore is indeed town - and i think that the scumteam excluding keldeo would be a bizarrely inactive/lurky team
 
it makes me really antsy that my not-townread ring is made up of everyone who i'm not as personally close with and i keep worrying it's confbias but like. my towncore + VM is mostly just mech/mech-adjacent stuff. idk
 
yeah, frankly i’m mindmelding with mewt’s towncore/am willing to go her Reasons for rari/skylar, so now i guess it’s up to ordering everyone else lmao

also yeah town bulletproof could totally have been what happened
 
although excluding mewts towncore and me leaves 7 people, which seems slightly low for there still being 5 maf. i don’t have any counteropinions about towncore tho so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ unless someone is out here playing 8d chess
 
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