Cats (2019) Mafia

[Trebek]

maybe mewt is RB immune?

wut

ftr i’m not saying i believe that, my point is that any possible thing that could disrupt
the mafias plan would ultimately, in my
opinion, lead them to RB emmy
instead of kill

 

[kyeugh]

i kind of don’t get why the objective best move would be to kill emmy anyway? blocking her pretty much completely eliminates her utility since she doesn’t have any thread presence otherwise, meanwhile shooting mew takes out a healer and a town leader

 

[Trebek]

i kind of don’t get why the objective best move would be to kill emmy anyway? blocking her pretty much completely eliminates her utility since she doesn’t have any thread presence otherwise, meanwhile shooting mew takes out a healer and a town leader

objective in the universe where mafia is sure that mewt is getting extra protection from someone else

 

[mewtini]

i guess this goes back to "do they assume two healers" if rnp is scum?

 

[kyeugh]

i guess we can see in hindsight that block mewt -> kill emmy ensures a kill while the inverse doesn’t, but clearly the mafia BELIEVED whatever they did was going to result in a kill or else they wouldn’t have done it
easiest assumption to me is that they simply assumed mewt was unprotected and went for her, blocking emmy to eliminate her utility for the day

 

[Trebek]

exactly

 

[rari_teh]

i guess we can see in hindsight that block mewt -> kill emmy ensures a kill while the inverse doesn’t, but clearly the mafia BELIEVED whatever they did was going to result in a kill or else they wouldn’t have done it
easiest assumption to me is that they simply assumed mewt was unprotected and went for her, blocking emmy to eliminate her utility for the day

i still think it’s possible that they hit a bulletproof or an alien
also maybe [william of occam raised from the dead to ensure that this sentence is redacted]

 

[kyeugh]

i guess we can see in hindsight that block mewt -> kill emmy ensures a kill while the inverse doesn’t, but clearly the mafia BELIEVED whatever they did was going to result in a kill or else they wouldn’t have done it
easiest assumption to me is that they simply assumed mewt was unprotected and went for her, blocking emmy to eliminate her utility for the day

going from here, rnp’s scumlean on emmy has simply been to provide some cover for blocking her. he did not jail her with the intention of protecting her, because he suspected her before and after the night, and his first assumption when she survived and there was no nightkill wasn’t that he’d protected her but rather that he’d stopped the kill from firing at all

i’ll feel very silly if he flips green but to me this is the most logical explanation of what happened last night

 

[kyeugh]

i still think it’s possible that they hit a bulletproof or an alien

i don’t tbh. if it was bulletproof i think they would say so. MAYBE alien but i kind of doubt it

 

[mewtini]

i still think it’s possible that they hit a bulletproof or an alien
also maybe [william of occam raised from the dead to ensure that this sentence is redacted]

yeah i was going to say that it's still an option for this to have happened but is it safer/more sensical to assume that? idk

 

[rari_teh]

i guess we can see in hindsight that block mewt -> kill emmy ensures a kill while the inverse doesn’t, but clearly the mafia BELIEVED whatever they did was going to result in a kill or else they wouldn’t have done it
easiest assumption to me is that they simply assumed mewt was unprotected and went for her, blocking emmy to eliminate her utility for the day

going from here, rnp’s scumlean on emmy has simply been to provide some cover for blocking her. he did not jail her with the intention of protecting her, because he suspected her before and after the night, and his first assumption when she survived and there was no nightkill wasn’t that he’d protected her but rather that he’d stopped the kill from firing at all

i’ll feel very silly if he flips green but to me this is the most logical explanation of what happened last night

i’ll admit that this makes sense tbh

 

[Trebek]

sigh

at first i was gonna be like lmao didn’t rnp suspect emmy D2 why would he protect her

but nope. that makes perfect sense from a jailer PoV

 

[mewtini]

by the way i'll be the first to admit that i gave herbe too much of a free pass but hey! i got ultracool out of it! but idk why we'd resolve him before rnp still?

 

[mewtini]

if rnp is villa and emmy is the don ... something something clown town fr. but i'm not super incentivized to assume that either, aside from being panoramic about this. ha

 

[qenya]

answers to specific questions people asked me a while ago (don't worry, I'll come back to more recent posts in a moment)

Mist, M+7 and Trebek wouldn't look great either

why trebek tbh. he moved and with justification
mist and m+7 are in my suspectland so i'm vibing with that though

yes, but then he moved back again, without justification

(he may have explained that later, I don't recall - either way the conversation has kind of moved on from this lol)

I am wondering, though, @kokorico during last EOD did it occur to you to try to push forward a third wagon, if you thought neither was a great option? Who would you have pushed if viability was not a consideration?

no, my mindset at that point was basically "neither seems like an ideal lynch but I don't have any better ideas, what's the least bad option?" I fully accept that I was wrong about that!

 

[Trebek]

the scenario where emmy is somehow don is extra loltown bc if that’s the case where was counterclaim

bc i highly doubt there’s no cop in this game

 

[rari_teh]

Mist, M+7 and Trebek wouldn't look great either

why trebek tbh. he moved and with justification
mist and m+7 are in my suspectland so i'm vibing with that though

yes, but then he moved back again, without justification

(he may have explained that later, I don't recall - either way the conversation has kind of moved on from this lol)

he was the casting vote that sent ultracool to the cellar
later he explained that he moved votes because [redacted] cleared herbe
this is anything but suspicious tbh

 

[rari_teh]

the scenario where emmy is somehow don is extra loltown bc if that’s the case where was counterclaim

bc i highly doubt there’s no cop in this game

in that scenario i’d say dead
also in that scenario i’d say emmy should bet in the powerball

 

[mewtini]

later he explained that he moved votes because [redacted] cleared herbe

he actually explained it exactly as it was happening
looking at vote history seems to show that trebek moved between the two a decent amount, i'm not fully sure what koko is referring to

 

[qenya]

Mist, M+7 and Trebek wouldn't look great either

why trebek tbh. he moved and with justification
mist and m+7 are in my suspectland so i'm vibing with that though

yes, but then he moved back again, without justification

(he may have explained that later, I don't recall - either way the conversation has kind of moved on from this lol)

he was the casting vote that sent ultracool to the cellar
later he explained that he moved votes because [redacted] cleared herbe
this is anything but suspicious tbh

the context here is that we were speculating about ultracool being outgroup mafia