Cats (2019) Mafia

[Herbe]

ahhh. ninja'd. thank you. gotta wait 6 seconds

 

[mewtini]

no dw. i didn't know until eifie yelled at us all for cop speculation in tvt

 

[qenya]

does power role spec do more harm than good for town?

tradition says yes but I'm realising I can't actually articulate why

 

[qenya]

does power role spec do more harm than good for town?

tradition says yes but I'm realising I can't actually articulate why

goddammit, ninja'd FOUR times

 

[mewtini]

I'm not suuuper buying the 'Mr Ultracool is mafia because Seshas is dead' thing because it sticks out like a sore thumb to me

also agree with ils
similarly i think hard-hypothesizing possible w/w by "who most quickly defends who" is kind of naive. not that it never happens, but like, if skylar flipped red i wouldn't be changing my rari vibe esp considering trebekkening

 

[Vipera Magnifica]

also I’m fine with a Mr. Ultracool lynch, he’s pretty likely to be scum regardless of skylar’s alignment

even if Ultracool were to flip red kyeugh could just be throwing him under the bus right now

 

[mewtini]

i'm fine with mr ultracool for now but unless he talks drastically more than he has/did in tvt my d1 complaint about it being a useless (and imo, near-random at this point) lynch will probably stand
but ya know. the day is young!!

 

[rari_teh]

I’ll refrain from voting this early in the Day without a redcheck – esp given the flimsiness of the lynchtrain –, but I def wanna hear more from Ultracool

 

[mewtini]

honestly i'm just forcing myself to start voting more. life is short bro.
i still liked ultracool's few d1 posts tbh

 

[kyeugh]

tbh yeah i didn’t intend to start a thing here ope

 

[mewtini]

keldeoooo

 

[rari_teh]

let’s move this thread a bit shall we
@Bluwiikoon iirc you didn’t give your opinion on the matter yet. would you mind sharing your thoughts?

 

[mewtini]

actually tbh sorry to interrogate you more vm but

he’s pretty likely to be scum regardless of skylar’s alignment

what do you mean by this. just statistically?

 

[mewtini]

oh, are you going off the seshas nkill

 

[Bluwiikoon]

let’s move this thread a bit shall we
@Bluwiikoon iirc you didn’t give your opinion on the matter yet. would you mind sharing your thoughts?

Tbh I'm about to sleep and will probably think it over a bit, but I just wanted to respond now so you know I saw this and I'm ruminating it ^^

Remember to rest and to hydrate, folks!

 

[Vipera Magnifica]

actually tbh sorry to interrogate you more vm but

he’s pretty likely to be scum regardless of skylar’s alignment

what do you mean by this. just statistically?

I think if skylar is town, there is a very good chance that Mr. Ultracool is mafia for the same reasons that people suspected him yesterday.

If my theory is correct and skylar is mafia, then it's just like her to bus her mafia partner to throw suspicion off herself, especially when she never intended for it to become a wagon and was only doing it as an empty gesture.

 

[mewtini]

i'm confused by the first half - he's actually playing similarly to how he was as town in tropes; it's just that it's pretty easy to replicate that as scum and am not seeing that as 'a very good chance.' that's the bit that i think comes up as a fairly random lynch actually

i see your logic in the second half

 

[RNP]

if i'm a cop then kyeugh is an asshole but innocent.

you stole my kill

 

[kyeugh]

what kill

 

[mewtini]

stryke i assume lol

i'm gonna think out loud for a bit so at least everything is in one place. more granular list this time because i love stress, ig. forced myself to be more selective about my TR tier this go-around
still mostly not ranked though

ps in my post above i meant to say "i'm not seeing that as 'a very good chance' of hitting scum"

Spoiler: some kind of tierlist

s tier
- mewtini

townread
- rari (hypo n0). if i'm not cop, still vibing; fairly cautionless posting imo and has been drawing decently solvy-feeling comparisons (e.g. 564 and 1042, even if i didn't agree w the latter)
- kyeugh (hypo n1). if i'm not cop, also still vibing for now for reasons i've talked about
- keldeo. maybe i'll get duped here, but. i liked his EoD and the trebekkening.

townlean
- bfree, asking "why are we suspicious of stryke?" in 945/EoD feels like an unnecessary move for a wolf. not much in her iso as of yet and i am admittedly maybe getting lightpocketed because i've agreed a fair amount with the few posts she's written (on probability + voicing initial confusion with trebekkening)
- bluwiikoon (sounds pure, seems to have priorities in order. could go up but i'm tryna keep the TR section nice and lean.)
- m+7 (not much development from my last read, just putting him here for now. i talked about this a bit in 923, haven't gone back to read him over since)
- ultracool (between here and 'no thoughts')

lightly concerned (by which i mean 'not townleaning')
- superjolt, for being around but not "current" (as i think keldeo said) during EoD. i did think his initial thought-dump during his catchup felt like someone genuinely trying to piece the game together though, so ... idk.
- trebek, previously was in No Thoughts, Head Empty-ville but am moving him here for the same thing as superjolt. he came in late during EoD which obvi i'm not going to scumlean someone for, but idk if it's great that his only non-vote post during EoD was to fix his optics/clarify a post he made that wasn't related to the voting wagons. at t-minus-9 to EoD. i guess i say this w the allowance that maybe his lack of current-ness just due to being new? (newer than jolt at least) but

have feelings but have (read) commitment issues
- VM (could go in townlean for reasons i mentioned earlier. i feel like maybe we're just clashing this game, idk ...)
- herbe (could go in townlean i guess?)
- emmy (idk if i should be worried that she didn't answer my q before while she was still online/reacting inthread? i asked it kind of expecting that she'd just say "idk, just da vibe" but she wasn't super question dodgy last game)
- ILS i initially was kinda shrug in re: flavorspec because i don't really think individual flavor roles actually matter very much and wasn't going to change my read so long as he didn't talk about game content. but now he has. things i see upon reading back: he said seshas pinged him as town, which i guess could kinda go either way, idk. light rari shade that could be NAI but still makes me feel a little bit weird (the 763 - 777 thing i talked about in 946). but i like 1301 well enough i think?

no thoughts. head empty
- kokorico (i don't really have any explanation tbh, sorry)
- rnp (is rnp, and also isn't super active)
- tofu (low-poster)

other thoughts:
- would be interested in readlist from butterfree whenever she's able/willing
- VM said earlier that rari was suspiciously "quick to defend" skylar and i am kind of not seeing that tbh aside from the fact that rari's 1272 was the first response to VM's initial kyeughpush, which doesn't mean anything imo. also like, in that case i fall into the same boat because my post came right after rari's, unless VM just doesn't care as much because my voting patterns differed from kyeugh's or w/e (this should probably go in the list but, whatever. it's my post and i'm lazy hehe.)
- i miss seshas lol. bring seshas back
- i said earlier that it could be worth looking at people who flipflopped during EoD in an effort to Look Confused or noncommittally voted, thinking that "there has to have been at least one wolf present right ... ?" but i don't think the actual list really turns up much, like. trebek and maaaybe butterfree. i dunno
- mewt should probably start proofreading but she's going to hit Post reply anyway because she can't be fucked to go back over this
- unvote for now