Contest Pokémafia Spectacular! - Game Thread

[Herbe]

the point i was making was that i was just as baffled as everyone else by the flavour. (in fact that's how i arrived at the "what if the mafia don't actually know they're mafia" idea, although i think i posted about them in the reverse order? i forget)

i have no idea how these ideas connect

 

[qenya]

i do think its interesting that ive just assigned you Scum Vibes in my head repeatedly on D1s but idk when you were and werent actually scum? or the flips of anyone that i was accusing?

i was mafia in cats (2019) and jack was mafia in tarot. the others were wrong

seems pretty close to random chance, maybe slightly better, which i think aligns with the concept of D1 reads in general tbh

 

[qenya]

the point i was making was that i was just as baffled as everyone else by the flavour. (in fact that's how i arrived at the "what if the mafia don't actually know they're mafia" idea, although i think i posted about them in the reverse order? i forget)

i have no idea how these ideas connect

oh sorry yeah i missed out a couple of steps in the middle there lmao

i think the way i was thinking went something like: "my flavour is pretty weak, and there are reasonably obvious stronger choices, and like RNP says it's unlike MF not to put much effort into flavour. so maybe there's some deeper meaning behind it? we haven't seen the bastard mechanic yet... could it be something relating to the role PMs ... oh! what if she's lying to us about our own alignments"

 

[RNP]

i think the way you were thinking was "oh shit there's already a wagon on me quick claim some bullshit"

 

[qenya]

not taking the bait

 

[Herbe]

in fewer words i don't buy it either tbh tbh

 

[RNP]

either way mf is more subtle with bastardry. "you thought you were town but actually you were mafia" is passé at this point

 

[qenya]

in fewer words i don't buy it either tbh tbh

shrugs. like i said, idrc... i'll be vindicated in *checks clock* about 5 hours one way or another

what i'm more interested in is chatting to you in the hope of generating some useful interactions for everyone else to build off of! so talk to me. let's start with, what are your thoughts on wisper? personally i was not particularly down on her yesterDay, everyone gets one free pass for life stuff imo, but as time drags on i think quietness becomes more of a warning signal. do you think you might try to push on her toMorrow, or do you expect to have better targets?

and keith, sorting you is obviously less important if you're about to self-immolate, but i'm curious anyway. if you had gotten a role PM with similar oddities to mine (fine, sure, "the one I'm claiming to have"), what would your thoughts about it be?

 

[sanderidge]

with the fact that rnp is going to die at eod if qenya flips town my entire towncore falls apart. Anxiety

 

[mewtini]

lol my 5hr flight just landed B) i don’t have time to fully read that yet so i‘he only skimmed, not sure if i‘ll get to circle back?

tl;dr: it looks to me like it's totally NAI for them - not inherently scummy like i thought, but also not a clear townsign like she suggested.

not what i said

in fact i feel considerably worse about mewt now after she put so much stock in scumreading me off my off-the-cuff EoD post.

can you specify which post youre saying i was reading that way because i can’t figure it out from your post. if you’re referring to the “if i flip red” one then that’s actually, again, not at all what i said

personally i think herbe is the correct vote here - helps sort mewt, helps sort jack off their mutual "we know secret knowledge about each other and about the setup ", helps sort me

can you talk about if you have any actual scumreads because this is bad vote rationale on its own

also i hate talking about myself in mafia tbh but it’s kind of insane to suggest that i would start a *completely* unnecessary wagon on teammate stryke when no one was even looking at him, when i’ve been widely townread, and on d1 of all times. and then w!herbe would have had to willingly shift the vc from def killing you to forcing a rand between v!you and and w!stryke when, honestly, i don’t think it would have been especially outing for them to just let you flip there. can you talk about that?

atp i genuinely don’t know what the landscape of this game could even look like if you’re v but the way your post snakes around bringing up any genuine scumreads (and misrepresenting what i said) really doesn’t make me believe that we’re in that world.

 

[mewtini]

sorry that that was harsh lol

i’m trying my best to find you if you actually are town

and i’m going to feel both very very guilty and also disappointed in my own gamer skills if you’re just villa

 

[sanderidge]

qenya i am so sorry but i'm starting to think that solving you will settle more about the gamestate than your proposed votes on herbe bc if you're v then i have plenty of people to paranoia at and if you're not then my towncore is kind of set

 

[sanderidge]

which must be extremely frustrating to hear before i even reply to your replies from my own questions but i will do this asap, i am currently in wrist pain hell

 

[mewtini]

this is bad vote rationale on its own

to clarify

i don’t think lynching solely for info is a good idea and i don’t love that you haven’t actually voiced suspicions outside of … trying to break towncore without much justification

that being said i’m having flashbacks to ACNH mafia when i was absolutely convinced you were scum because you tried to get one of your scumreads voted out by counterclaiming them lol but if this is that vibe then i’m just never finding you

 

[mewtini]

(also i have actually read the full post now, i have been stranded at the airport)

*also* i think it’s pretty disingenuous to characterize herbe’s vote on you d1 as a “random accusation” when what was actually said was just that they’d had a gutread on you or whatever. like they didn’t push you out of nowhere

 

[mewtini]

it would actually be so funny if the other wolves were just myuma/wisper

 

[sanderidge]

another thing i'm curious about - qenya, how do you feel about your block not going through, but there not being a kill today? does that have anything to do with/interact with your wanting to vote out herbe at all?

 

[mewtini]

real

lmao imagine “playing” the “game” and actually paying attention to mech

 

[RNP]

and keith, sorting you is obviously less important if you're about to self-immolate, but i'm curious anyway. if you had gotten a role PM with similar oddities to mine (fine, sure, "the one I'm claiming to have"), what would your thoughts about it be?

 

[Herbe]

what i'm more interested in is chatting to you in the hope of generating some useful interactions for everyone else to build off of! so talk to me. let's start with, what are your thoughts on wisper? personally i was not particularly down on her yesterDay, everyone gets one free pass for life stuff imo, but as time drags on i think quietness becomes more of a warning signal. do you think you might try to push on her toMorrow, or do you expect to have better targets?

my thoughts have been previously expressed as being one step above you, in my "what are you doing dude." category. honestly not even for quietness (arent myuma and wisper the same type of quiet rn?) but like it doesn't Help overall. weird post and not much help in solveyness from wisper so far tbh and even the vote on you was like... yeah following my justification but not really adding much else.... bleh. i don't know if i rank myuma or wisper above one another but thats the next place im looking