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Gen VI Pokéchoice Mafia - Game Thread
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Tailsy
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blazheirio889
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Re: Gen VI Pokéchoice Mafia - Game Thread
All the ninjas
I think our current questions are "what happens in the event of a tied vote", "do mafia win when they outnumber innocents, or match them", and "if the mafia outnumber the innocents during the night, but won't during the day, do they still win during the night"?
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I think our current questions are "what happens in the event of a tied vote", "do mafia win when they outnumber innocents, or match them", and "if the mafia outnumber the innocents during the night, but won't during the day, do they still win during the night"?
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Re: Gen VI Pokéchoice Mafia - Game Thread
I don't think ILS should clarify whether it stops if he's dead. Right now it's a deterrent to being killed, which limits viable mafia targets. So in light of that, I think Butterfree targeting Negrek is a fine idea (though it might also be worth it being vague about Negrek or Tailsy, to further muddle the mafia).
I don't think ILS should clarify whether it stops if he's dead. Right now it's a deterrent to being killed, which limits viable mafia targets. So in light of that, I think Butterfree targeting Negrek is a fine idea (though it might also be worth it being vague about Negrek or Tailsy, to further muddle the mafia).
Re: Gen VI Pokéchoice Mafia - Game Thread
I could see claiming night-protection if you didn't have it, but that seems like a risky move if you're somebody's lover. That move would indirectly put more heat on Tailsy, since it means the mafia has a smaller pool of people to pick from, and Butterfree would presumably have died anyway if that happened, so... idk, it doesn't seem like a great tactic to me.
What if VM flips mafia? Should we have Butterfree target him if so, in case he's the don? That sounded like a good idea, whoever said it.
I could see claiming night-protection if you didn't have it, but that seems like a risky move if you're somebody's lover. That move would indirectly put more heat on Tailsy, since it means the mafia has a smaller pool of people to pick from, and Butterfree would presumably have died anyway if that happened, so... idk, it doesn't seem like a great tactic to me.
What if VM flips mafia? Should we have Butterfree target him if so, in case he's the don? That sounded like a good idea, whoever said it.
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Mai
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Re: Gen VI Pokéchoice Mafia - Game Thread
Agreed on target VM if mafia.
Have any mafia-aligned players claimed to be in a lover pair? Something about Butterfree and Tailsy.
Agreed on target VM if mafia.
Have any mafia-aligned players claimed to be in a lover pair? Something about Butterfree and Tailsy.
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Mai
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Re: Gen VI Pokéchoice Mafia - Game Thread
Yeah, but if you can't ask questions about individual alignment, then that might be a decent way? Plus, I highly doubt one would be mafia without the other.
Yeah, but if you can't ask questions about individual alignment, then that might be a decent way? Plus, I highly doubt one would be mafia without the other.
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Re: Gen VI Pokéchoice Mafia - Game Thread
I'm not just saying it, but then again I suppose I'd say that even if I were, so whatever. I am definitely offering to use it on someone other than Tailsy if you think it would be useful, so yeah, VM if he flips mafia, otherwise Negrek sounds good.
Well, I'm breathing a lot easier with the extension. Do we have the entire plan laid out, aside from blazhy's question? (I'm in favor of you asking if any mafia-aligned players have claimed lovers since I know that will venerate both of us.)
I'm not just saying it, but then again I suppose I'd say that even if I were, so whatever. I am definitely offering to use it on someone other than Tailsy if you think it would be useful, so yeah, VM if he flips mafia, otherwise Negrek sounds good.
Well, I'm breathing a lot easier with the extension. Do we have the entire plan laid out, aside from blazhy's question? (I'm in favor of you asking if any mafia-aligned players have claimed lovers since I know that will venerate both of us.)
blazheirio889
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Re: Gen VI Pokéchoice Mafia - Game Thread
If the answer to that question is yes, then:
1. they're both mafia but not lovers: we kill them both
2. they're both mafia and lovers: not very likely, doesn't matter, we kill one and they both die
3. one is mafia, one is not, they are not lovers: sucks, but at least we've determined that at least one of them is mafia. Pick which one we think is more likely and lynch them first.
4. one is mafia, one is not, they are lovers: we can't win without murdering them both anyway, so... sorry, innocent lover
I don't see a downside, assuming that oracle question is acceptable. Ideally that would come with VM inspecting blazheirio889 to confirm her innocence. If VM AND blazheirio are both mafia, blazheirio could really screw us over by giving us the wrong information there... but we'd also go after VM first with the lynch, since we'd be SURE of his alignment, and that would give us a bit more time to figure out how to work out whether to trust blazheirio's information.
If the answer to that question is yes, then:
1. they're both mafia but not lovers: we kill them both
2. they're both mafia and lovers: not very likely, doesn't matter, we kill one and they both die
3. one is mafia, one is not, they are not lovers: sucks, but at least we've determined that at least one of them is mafia. Pick which one we think is more likely and lynch them first.
4. one is mafia, one is not, they are lovers: we can't win without murdering them both anyway, so... sorry, innocent lover
I don't see a downside, assuming that oracle question is acceptable. Ideally that would come with VM inspecting blazheirio889 to confirm her innocence. If VM AND blazheirio are both mafia, blazheirio could really screw us over by giving us the wrong information there... but we'd also go after VM first with the lynch, since we'd be SURE of his alignment, and that would give us a bit more time to figure out how to work out whether to trust blazheirio's information.
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Re: Gen VI Pokéchoice Mafia - Game Thread
Mismatching alignment lovers pretty much never happen, I think? And if one is really innocent, then they'd have to be misinformed about their partner, since otherwise they'd tell us? Right?
Mismatching alignment lovers pretty much never happen, I think? And if one is really innocent, then they'd have to be misinformed about their partner, since otherwise they'd tell us? Right?
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Re: Gen VI Pokéchoice Mafia - Game Thread
Okay so, if VM flips innocent:
VM, inspect someone other than Mai, Tailsy, or Negrek. ... or Butterfree? Butterfree, I forget, does picking someone up render you immune to night actions as well? May want to inspect me to ensure that my information can be trusted.
Zexion, bodyguard VM.
Butterfree, target Negrek or Tailsy.
I will... ask a question. Yet to be decided entirely.
If VM flips mafia:
Zexion, bodyguard me.
Butterfree, target VM or Tailsy. Probably VM.
I will still ask some as-of-yet determined question.
I think that's about it?
Okay so, if VM flips innocent:
VM, inspect someone other than Mai, Tailsy, or Negrek. ... or Butterfree? Butterfree, I forget, does picking someone up render you immune to night actions as well? May want to inspect me to ensure that my information can be trusted.
Zexion, bodyguard VM.
Butterfree, target Negrek or Tailsy.
I will... ask a question. Yet to be decided entirely.
If VM flips mafia:
Zexion, bodyguard me.
Butterfree, target VM or Tailsy. Probably VM.
I will still ask some as-of-yet determined question.
I think that's about it?
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Re: Gen VI Pokéchoice Mafia - Game Thread
I mean especially since Tailsy's role seems to indicate she can choose whoever she wants as a lover, it's not implausible that she happened upon a mafia member.
And I just realized I derped at mathing and we actually won't be matched/outnumbered if we lynch an innocent-mafia lover pair, since we'll be sniping a mafia member as well. Whoops.
I mean especially since Tailsy's role seems to indicate she can choose whoever she wants as a lover, it's not implausible that she happened upon a mafia member.
And I just realized I derped at mathing and we actually won't be matched/outnumbered if we lynch an innocent-mafia lover pair, since we'll be sniping a mafia member as well. Whoops.
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Re: Gen VI Pokéchoice Mafia - Game Thread
So I suppose the plan is as follows:
Okay so, if VM flips innocent:
VM, inspect someone other than Mai, Tailsy, or Negrek. ... or Butterfree? Butterfree, I forget, does picking someone up render you immune to night actions as well? May want to inspect me to ensure that my information can be trusted.
Zexion, bodyguard VM.
Butterfree, target Negrek or Tailsy.
Blazhy will ask "have any mafia-aligned players claimed to be in a lover pair?"
If VM flips mafia:
Zexion, bodyguard me.
Butterfree, target VM or Tailsy. Probably VM.
Blazhy will ask "have any mafia-aligned players claimed to be in a lover pair?"
I think that's about it?
(also whoo I've never posted so much in a row in my life I feel like a rebel)
So I suppose the plan is as follows:
Okay so, if VM flips innocent:
VM, inspect someone other than Mai, Tailsy, or Negrek. ... or Butterfree? Butterfree, I forget, does picking someone up render you immune to night actions as well? May want to inspect me to ensure that my information can be trusted.
Zexion, bodyguard VM.
Butterfree, target Negrek or Tailsy.
Blazhy will ask "have any mafia-aligned players claimed to be in a lover pair?"
If VM flips mafia:
Zexion, bodyguard me.
Butterfree, target VM or Tailsy. Probably VM.
Blazhy will ask "have any mafia-aligned players claimed to be in a lover pair?"
I think that's about it?
(also whoo I've never posted so much in a row in my life I feel like a rebel)