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Gen VI Pokéchoice Mafia - Game Thread

Re: Gen VI Pokéchoice Mafia - Game Thread

I don't mind being the message-receiver, but I agree that perhaps it ought to be Mai as well as anyone, because again, more or less confirmed innocent and all, not a relevant night action.
 
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Negrek said:
Well, let's see. Maybe we ought to abstain? Is there some way we can set things up so we can confirm enough people innocent or at least one mafia next night?
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I mean, do we think lynching a single innocent is safe at this point?

Because if you lynch me, we could get your alignment.

(... okay I guess asking you isn't the best thing since if you're mafia the response would be no of course, open question)
 
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All right, then, I'll target Mai.
 
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Wait, what? We get Negrek's alignment for lynching Mai? @_@ I'm confused!
 
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Okay. If we have Zexion bodyguard VM, VM inspect... well, someone (besides me, Mai, and Butterfree's target), and me ask if VM is inspector...
1. Zexion or someone else dies. I receive confirmation VM is inspector. We get a bunch of confirmed innocents. Yay.
2. Zexion or someone else dies, I receive confirmation VM is /not/ inspector, we get a bunch of suspicious people to lynch. Yay.
3. VM dies, confirmation of inspector. Ungood.
4. VM dies, confirmation of uninspector. Also rather ungood.

??? My brain is starting to fail me, as evidenced by uncan grammar
 
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blazheirio889 said:
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Oracle can ask any yes or no question, as long as it doesn't directly reveal alignment. Pretty sure that's the norm for oracles?

And using night actions to verify claims is all well and good, except we might not have another night to do so. Especially if Butterfree and Tailsy are actually lovers and we lynch them and we kill off two innocents.
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I think abstaining may be a safe option at this point. On one hand, if we lynch Tailsy and she turns out to be innocent, we lose Butterfree as well. On the other hand, if we lynch Zexion and he was telling the truth, then you'll lose me, the inspector, during the night.

blazhy, go ahead and ask if I am inspector. That should hopefully clear things up.
 
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Butterfree said:
Wait, what? We get Negrek's alignment for lynching Mai? @_@ I'm confused!
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Oh, sorry!

My active action, aside from reviving, is that I can target a player to add to my "stockpile," which resets whenever I die. If I'm lynched, I can pick a player from the stockpile to have their alignment revealed publicly. Negrek is the only one in the pile right now.
 
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Vanilla Mongoose said:
I think abstaining may be a safe option at this point. On one hand, if we lynch Tailsy and she turns out to be innocent, we lose Butterfree as well. On the other hand, if we lynch Zexion and he was telling the truth, then you'll lose me, the inspector, during the night.

blazhy, go ahead and ask if I am inspector. That should hopefully clear things up.
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??? I find it extremely suspicious that first you're all "but you can't target single players" and now you're "ask if I'm inspector." Which seems much more egregious to me, and not a thing Metallica would allow. (Possibly you're saying this because you think Metallica wouldn't, and just want to gain trust and void a night action.)
 
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If you don't mind getting lynched, Mai, and think it would be for the best, I definitely don't mind being confirmed innocent.
 
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Also, we have no idea who they're going to target. I would honestly not be willing to bet it was me if I was inspector. So.
 
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Wait, there's also if I die, I won't be able to post to confirm if VM is inspector or not.
 
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I clarified that oracles can only not ask about alignment, and I assume VM read that, so I don't think the switch to "ask if I'm inspector" is suspicious? idk man
 
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Well, I still think out of everyone Negrek is one of the least likely to be mafia given the spy message (wow, I had no idea that was a role), so she's probably not the best player to do that with. Also, lynching you wastes a lynch that we could be using to possibly lynch mafia, which makes it pretty risky.

So, uh, if we agree it would be best to abstain, how do we ensure that ends up as the result? I'm not canceling my vote for Zexion while that still puts Tailsy on the chopping block, for obvious reasons.

blazheirio889 said:
Okay. If we have Zexion bodyguard VM, VM inspect... well, someone (besides me, Mai, and Butterfree's target), and me ask if VM is inspector...
1. Zexion or someone else dies. I receive confirmation VM is inspector. We get a bunch of confirmed innocents. Yay.
2. Zexion or someone else dies, I receive confirmation VM is /not/ inspector, we get a bunch of suspicious people to lynch. Yay.
3. VM dies, confirmation of inspector. Ungood.
4. VM dies, confirmation of uninspector. Also rather ungood.
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Well, if Zexion was going to bodyguard VM, then VM dying makes him mafia, doesn't it? Or wait, does this bodyguard role only have a limited chance of succeeding?
 
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Mai said:
??? I find it extremely suspicious that first you're all "but you can't target single players" and now you're "ask if I'm inspector." Which seems much more egregious to me, and not a thing Metallica would allow. (Possibly you're saying this because you think Metallica wouldn't, and just want to gain trust and void a night action.)
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She posted to clarify this, and proposed the idea in the first place??? Why would I think it is something MF wouldn't allow?

Gah, Im finding it difficult to keep up with this thread from my phone.
 
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Oh. Right, yeah, lynching Mai to confirm Negrek's alignment is just as good as abstaining, so I guess that's still a pretty decent option (though then presumably I can't target Mai tonight, so do I target Negrek?) The question of how we switch the vote over without the possibility of "whoops night over Tailsy and Butterfree die" remains, though.
 
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Lessee. If we lynch Mai, I flip innocent and Mai revives later. Butterfree can target Tailsy and, assuming her vague other-protection holds, both she and Tailsy will be safe for the duration of the night. This only leaves the mafia with five targets: Zexion, ILS, me, blazheirio, and VM. Zexion can, in addition, protect one of the other four for the night. I'm not sure, but perhaps narrowing down the potential targets for mafia and picking our potential inforole questions right, we can figure something out here... but then if the mafia kill goes through we'll be tied, right? Might be worth it. I have to think about it carefully.
 
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Vanilla Mongoose said:
She posted to clarify this, and proposed the idea in the first place??? Why would I think it is something MF wouldn't allow?

Gah, Im finding it difficult to keep up with this thread from my phone.
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... Did she??? Then I must be losing track of the thread, too; this is all confusing.

Negrek said:
If you don't mind getting lynched, Mai, and think it
would be for the best, I definitely don't mind being confirmed innocent.
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wait a second I fucked up

I was going to target you before I was switched to Butterfree, so I lost your marker

the person I targeted was VM

which is actually pretty useful???

I revive at the beginning of the phase tomorrow, so no killing once I die, and Metallica pretty much said I'll be fine. So yeah, lynching me is as dangerous as abstaining, really, but with more info.
 
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Bodyguard should be guaranteed, so. If VM dies, Zexion will be our next lynch target. But then the inspector confirmation/refutation I get will be useless, and I'll likely be the next to go, and then we won't really have info. So it's not exactly an ideal scenario.

Negrek, Butterfree, Mai, and I are online, at least; VM should be able to vote, as well. I think we can safely switch to a lynch for Mai without night ending oops
 
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... oh, sweet. Confirming VM as innocent/mafia is even better than Negrek. Then I can ask a different question.

Zexion, of course, if VM is mafia don't bodyguard him, I think you should bodyguard me instead since I'm the only other inforole?

There remains the question I should ask, then, since we're confirming VM's innocence another way.
 
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Hold on, if we're going to lynch Mai, then Negrek can use her action, we can lynch Mai, and we can get more daytime to discuss, right?
 
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