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Is it, especially for males, a moral/filial duty to procreate?

So, in my opinion, it really doesn't matter to carry on a surname(but then again, I'm female, so I probably couldn't anyway).
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Of course you could. A child is given the name written on his/her birth certificate. You decide what is written on that certificate. Problem solved?

Though, on the subject of taking/not taking surnames, the only problem is that you have to cut some names off somewhere lest your grandchildren have eight surnames.
 
Spaekle Oddberry said:
[...] breeders pull out when you mention you don't want kids and they feel as though the validity of their lifestyle choices has been challenged.
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Um, excuse me?

Please don't make assumptions about how I (or anyone) would react to you not wanting children. I wouldn't give two fucks, actually.
Also, calling people 'breeders' is derogatory and awful. Wanting/having children is not a reason to slap somebody with a label like that. It's dehumanising.
 
Hmm... I haven't been here in forever. Again.

Anyways, I don't think it's mush of a population thing, more of a genetics thing. If you have good genes, if you're smarter, if you have a more efficient immune system, a good cardiovascular system, something like that, and you don't want to have kids, donate genetic material. You'll be bettering the human race and letting someone who otherwise could not have kids, have kids. I'm going to donate genetic material when I am older, first because I am a little bit smarter than the average person, at least in mathematics and in some ways, writing and the english language. Also I think that my mindset towards procreation, which may be beneficial to the human race, is only possible because I have Asperger's syndrome, which, unless I am mistaken, can be passed on genetically. I hope my sister donates genetic material too, she has the best immune system of anyone I've ever met. That is my contribution to this thread and to your minds.
 
rysworld said:
I'm going to donate genetic material when I am older, first because I am a little bit smarter than the average person, at least in mathematics and in some ways, writing and the english language.
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this is a bit of a cocky statement to make ("I am so smart it should be my duty to donate genetic material") but being a sperm donor does sound like a pretty nice gig... you basically get paid large amounts of money to watch porn and jack off. not only that, but five or so years later you get the pleasure of looking around at kids of a certain age, thinking "that could be my son, and neither of us would know it". i would totally do it but if i think they don't let people with glasses donate sperm for obvious reasons.

rysworld said:
Also I think that my mindset towards procreation, which may be beneficial to the human race, is only possible because I have Asperger's syndrome, which, unless I am mistaken, can be passed on genetically.
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this statement is a bit baffling. you want to give children asperger's syndrome so they realize that it's not a moral duty to procreate? well a) unless every single person in this thread has asperger's syndrome i don't think your mentality is "only possible" because you have it, and b) that's a bit of a weird, sort of selfish goal... all i know about asperger's syndrome is that it apparently makes you smart but socially awkward, which doesn't sound like that great of a life...
 
I've always thought differently from other people, is what I am trying to say. Also I did not realize that genetic addition was considered moral, I thought that "moral" was considered populationary(sp?) addition. My mistake. I will try to be more attentive in the future.
 
being a sperm donor does sound like a pretty nice gig... you basically get paid large amounts of money to watch porn and jack off. not only that, but five or so years later you get the pleasure of looking around at kids of a certain age, thinking "that could be my son, and neither of us would know it".
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sadly that's not the case in Britain any longer. they got rid of donor anonymity so now no-one donates sperm any more. absolute genius!
 
is this "you go on public record" style, or "the kid is going to be told who you are" style? I wouldn't actually mind the second all that much.
 
Espeon said:
Makes it much easier to find out who your real parents are when you find out your father isn't actually your real father, or similar.
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To which I say bollocks. Your 'real parents' are the people who devoted their lives to raise you, not some guy who simply donated the ingredients so you could be born.
 
I don't share a blood type with my biological father. My trying to save him in the event he needs bone marrow would be futile.

What's your point?
 
Espeon said:
Makes it much easier to find out who your real parents are when you find out your father isn't actually your real father, or similar.
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I suppose this might help you find out if your 'family' has a history of heart disease or something... Although why someone with such a condition would donate sperm raises even more questions.
 
Every family has a history of something, do they not?

I agree that knowing that one/both of your biological parents is suceptiable to, say, types of cancer you can get frequent checks for, would be helpful, but I don't see why this means you can't regard the people who love and raised you as your real parents.
 
Watershed said:
try saving your adoptive father when he needs a bone marrow transplant
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well there's a difference between saying "oh you're adopted so you probably can't donate bone marrow to us" and "by the way YOU'RE NOT OUR REAL CHILD there's this other guy who happens to be your biological father so go pretend there's some super special link with him despite the fact that he's never met you and doesn't know who you are"
 
yes, but knowing yer biological parents is a useful thing apart from adoptive families being real families. it's simply practical to know these kinds of things. this argument is about knowing who your biological parents are and that is simply useful information, medical or otherwise. the emotional bond involved has nothing to do with it.
 
It's not just for use with medical conditions either. Some adopted children just want to know who their biological parents are. It's essentially up to them who they would consider their "real parents" and soforth, and it's not in all cases that the child is unwanted. Sometimes, it can just be the case that the biological parents find it more kind to have the child adopted into another family with better living conditions than theirs. (Though, I've no idea if this is at all common.)

Of course, in the case of sperm donation it's different but the circumstances can change the perspective quite significantly, and this simply just can't be ignored.
 
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