Kalos Mafia [Nuit Zéro]

[Mai]

Re: Kalos Mafia [Nuit Zéro]

I guess I'm roleclaiming, too. I'm an inforole; basically, I can tell one player something about either an action from that night or someone's alignment, but I can't see what info I'm giving.

Did you target me last night, then?

Because I received a dreamer-esque message: either blazhy, Zexion, or you are mafia (and I mean either - the rest are confirmed innocent). Now, since blazhy thinks I'm mafia and I know I'm not (Superbird, input?), and you just made the message make sense, I know who I'm voting for.

 

[blazheirio889]

Re: Kalos Mafia [Nuit Zéro]

... hm! Interesting. ILS, did you target Alligates night 0? Because she was visited by a fluffy dancer that told her Zexion had visited Mai.

As indicated by MF today, Alligates was Mr. Bonding. During night 0 she strongly bonded with me, meaning we could communicate outside of the thread. That's how I know this. In addition, even if she bonded with the Mafia, they would be converted to innocent. If ILS can confirm that he targeted Alligates on night 0, this should further cement my innocence.

Now since I'm convinced Mai is mafia, I wouldn't put too much trust in the info she just gave. I mean, I don't think ILS is lying about the inforole, and I can't think of a reason Zexion would visit another mafia member if he was mafia himself, unless there was a mafia healer or something... Plus I don't think she'd implicate another mafia member.

 

[Superbird]

Re: Kalos Mafia [Nuit Zéro]

Blazhy, I did get inspection results for Light, but they came up innocent. Didn't we establish yesterday that Mai was innocent too? I don't think it's likely enough that I got wrong info two days in a row -- that would be a 1/16 chance. I think you might be lying about something. Blazhy.

 

[Light]

Re: Kalos Mafia [Nuit Zéro]

Well seeing as I'm not mafia this is a very confusing predicament.

I, uhm, appreciate the sentiment Superbird, but why would you be quick to accept a wrong result on Mai and then turn around and jump on blazheirio? His inspection target mached yours both days.

It doesn't really make sense that you would do that...

 

[Superbird]

Re: Kalos Mafia [Nuit Zéro]

...Oh, wait, I totally misread that. It said Blazhy was mafia. My vote stands.

 

[M&F]

Re: Kalos Mafia [Nuit Zéro]

Time extension. 24 hour additional hours for discussion.

This is finally getting exciting, eh?

 

[blazheirio889]

Re: Kalos Mafia [Nuit Zéro]

... what said I was mafia?
And we didn't establish Mai was innocent yesterday. She more or less said that the info you got must have been wrong, you gave her the benefit of doubt, and the day ended before I could post to confirm your result. The fact that I could name both of the people who were inspected should confirm that I'm the inspector.

I'd like ILS to step forward and say who he targeted these two nights. If N0 was Alligates, that backs me up. I also want to see if Mai was telling the truth about getting that alignment info (so if ILS targeted Mai last night). I mean, ILS said information about someone's alignment, not several people who might be mafia, so that strikes me as a bit strange. If ILS did target Mai, though, I'm willing to believe that the information can come in that form.

Now, if I do get lynched, I will turn up innocent. That, along with the fact that Superbird's results matched my targets (and hopefully ILS will post soon and confirm that he targeted Alligates N0) should be reason enough to lynch Mai and Light.

 

[blazheirio889]

Re: Kalos Mafia [Nuit Zéro]

... oh and before I forget, Light, I'm a girl. :P Not that I mind the misgendering, really (it's happened before) but I thought you might like to know.

 

[blazheirio889]

Re: Kalos Mafia [Nuit Zéro]

Also if anyone could tie the vote, that would be appreciated! MF, how do you handle tied votes?

 

[Zexion]

Re: Kalos Mafia [Nuit Zéro]

Now since I'm convinced Mai is mafia, I wouldn't put too much trust in the info she just gave. I mean, I don't think ILS is lying about the inforole, and I can't think of a reason Zexion would visit another mafia member if he was mafia himself, unless there was a mafia healer or something... Plus I don't think she'd implicate another mafia member.

I'm innocent, I promise. Sadly, not an inforole, but I do have an interesting(?) role that allows me something special. Though, it would seem I visit those I choose. I am innocent, though, just, I don't have anything of any value to contribute to this :/

 

[Mai]

Re: Kalos Mafia [Nuit Zéro]

I'd like ILS to step forward and say who he targeted these two nights. If N0 was Alligates, that backs me up. I also want to see if Mai was telling the truth about getting that alignment info (so if ILS targeted Mai last night). I mean, ILS said information about someone's alignment, not several people who might be mafia, so that strikes me as a bit strange. If ILS did target Mai, though, I'm willing to believe that the information can come in that form.

Now, if I do get lynched, I will turn up innocent. That, along with the fact that Superbird's results matched my targets (and hopefully ILS will post soon and confirm that he targeted Alligates N0) should be reason enough to lynch Mai and Light.

That would be helpful, yes. If he says last night was me, that backs me up. :P As, yes, you said, but in a particularly different way. Why would it be? Inspector isn't the best or most exciting role, and that's certainly information about alignment. I mean, it confirms us two innocents and a mafia if we use it right.

Which is why I suspect you. You didn't even follow my suggestion yesterday. We can believe ILS, as his role gives explanation for my results last night. Maybe Alligates might've been a godfather figure, killed somehow, even?

If I get lynched, I'll turn up innocent, too - that's no reason to lynch me, and there are certainly more noninnocent ways to know what happened to another player than innocent ones.

 

[Zexion]

Re: Kalos Mafia [Nuit Zéro]

Also if anyone could tie the vote, that would be appreciated! MF, how do you handle tied votes?

If I get lynched, I'll turn up innocent, too - that's no reason to lynch me, and there are certainly more noninnocent ways to know what happened to another player than innocent ones.

I guess I'll tie the vote and vote Mai. I'll give blazhy the benefit of the doubt. I am quite unsure of what to do, though.

 

[Mai]

Re: Kalos Mafia [Nuit Zéro]

I guess I'll tie the vote and vote Mai. I'll give blazhy the benefit of the doubt. I am quite unsure of what to do, though.

If you trust Squirtles, you should vote blazhy - because it's one of you, her, and him that's mafia. Either that, or wait for Superbird and I liek Squirtles, because both of them raised enough questions that they really should speak first :|||

 

[blazheirio889]

Re: Kalos Mafia [Nuit Zéro]

Zexion, did you target Mai the first night? That's the info I got from Alligates, and if ILS confirms that he targeted Alligates, then that confirms I could communicate outside of the thread with Alligates. And as I said, mafia Alligates strongly bonds with convert to innocent, so even if I was mafia originally (which I wasn't; my inspector case should be strong enough), then yeah, no need to lynch me.

Also no matter how MF handles ties, it would be in our interest to tie the vote. At the very least we'll have one more night to gather information; a third target match between Superbird and I should cement my role. Actually, in that case it would be best if I declared who I'll inspect tonight, in case I don't survive the night.

The only people who haven't roleclaimed (or at least given some indication of their role) and I haven't inspected are Majora and Flora. So, I'll inspect either one of those; I don't suppose you guys have any preference to which I'll inspect?

Aaaand Mai posted while I was writing, so.
If ILS says he targeted you, that does back you up somewhat, though I'll still be hesitant to trust the information you posted, since I know you're Mafia. If ILS says he targeted Alligates, that backs me up more because the only way I'd know that Zexion targeted Mai N0 is if I had outside communication with Alligates. And yeah, the nature of the information you were given can certainly be true, but ILS's wording doesn't /exactly/ match with yours and it niggles at me. Could be unfounded, but I thought I'd put that out there.

... you had a suggestion yesterday? o.o I read over your posts just now and I don't really see it. Maybe my reading comprehension is dying (so much for translation English to English :P) but could you point it out to me?

Also Alligates was confirmed innocent upon death. From my quick google search godfather is mafia don, so I'm not quite sure what you're saying here?

Judging from how death goes in this game, if I die, my character will be revealed. People who haven't played post-game might not know who my character is, but it does somewhat match my role, insofar that they protect the city and fight crime and blah blah blah, and that they're associated with Looker (which is another reason I believe Superbird). It should be easy enough to conclude I'm inspector, and from that conclude that those I found to be mafia should be lynched.

 

[blazheirio889]

Re: Kalos Mafia [Nuit Zéro]

Augh more posts

I agree that we should wait for Superbird and ILS to post, but until then it would do the least harm to tie the vote.

And rather, it's if Zexion trusts ILS /and/ Mai that he should vote for me. Again, I'm suspicious of the information Mai got from ILS, since my inspection results said that Mai is mafia. I see no reason she'd implicate a fellow member.

 

[Zexion]

Re: Kalos Mafia [Nuit Zéro]

If you trust Squirtles, you should vote blazhy - because it's one of you, her, and him that's mafia. Either that, or wait for Superbird and I liek Squirtles, because both of them raised enough questions that they really should speak first :|||

I do not know if I trust Squirtles or not D:

However, I know of my innocence, and both blazhy and you raise good arguments D:

Honestly, if blazhy is innocent, we're out an innocent. Same with you.

I retract my prior vote and abstain instead for now.

 

[blazheirio889]

Re: Kalos Mafia [Nuit Zéro]

Fine, to tie the vote, I'll also change my vote to abstain.

I'll inspect Majora tonight. If, tomorrow, Superbird confirms that the inspector's target was Majora, that should cement my role. And if that's the case, Mai and Light should be lynched.

 

[Zexion]

Re: Kalos Mafia [Nuit Zéro]

And blazhy posted while I was writing mine :/

To answer your question, blazhy, I did target Mai on N0. And I'm back to staring blankly at my screen attempting to figure out what to do.

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At least I checked this time to see another blazhy post so that I don't vote change again and throw the balance off.

 

[kyeugh]

Re: Kalos Mafia [Nuit Zéro]

Itttt's.... roleclaim time!

I got inspector! I hadn't really discovered anything of worth recently, so I didn't think it was worth roleclaiming, but now I've got something! First off, during the first night (so, Night 0), I inspected Mai. She came up as innocent! So there's that. I was going to bring up those results when Superbird accused her, but that sorted itself out! So I ended up just buttoning it for the time being.

But now I've got something really important! Last night, checked out blazhy and they came back as Mafia-aligned. Only one way to go from there.

I'm voting to lynch blazheirio889.

 

[Mai]

Re: Kalos Mafia [Nuit Zéro]

Zexion, did you target Mai the first night? That's the info I got from Alligates, and if ILS confirms that he targeted Alligates, then that confirms I could communicate outside of the thread with Alligates. And as I said, mafia Alligates strongly bonds with convert to innocent, so even if I was mafia originally (which I wasn't; my inspector case should be strong enough), then yeah, no need to lynch me.

Also no matter how MF handles ties, it would be in our interest to tie the vote. At the very least we'll have one more night to gather information; a third target match between Superbird and I should cement my role. Actually, in that case it would be best if I declared who I'll inspect tonight, in case I don't survive the night.

The only people who haven't roleclaimed (or at least given some indication of their role) and I haven't inspected are Majora and Flora. So, I'll inspect either one of those; I don't suppose you guys have any preference to which I'll inspect?

Aaaand Mai posted while I was writing, so.
If ILS says he targeted you, that does back you up somewhat, though I'll still be hesitant to trust the information you posted, since I know you're Mafia. If ILS says he targeted Alligates, that backs me up more because the only way I'd know that Zexion targeted Mai N0 is if I had outside communication with Alligates. And yeah, the nature of the information you were given can certainly be true, but ILS's wording doesn't /exactly/ match with yours and it niggles at me. Could be unfounded, but I thought I'd put that out there.

... you had a suggestion yesterday? o.o I read over your posts just now and I don't really see it. Maybe my reading comprehension is dying (so much for translation English to English :P) but could you point it out to me?

Also Alligates was confirmed innocent upon death. From my quick google search godfather is mafia don, so I'm not quite sure what you're saying here?

Judging from how death goes in this game, if I die, my character will be revealed. People who haven't played post-game might not know who my character is, but it does somewhat match my role, insofar that they protect the city and fight crime and blah blah blah, and that they're associated with Looker (which is another reason I believe Superbird). It should be easy enough to conclude I'm inspector, and from that conclude that those I found to be mafia should be lynched.

But communicating out-of-thread with Alligates does nothing to prove your innocence. "Mafia Alligates" doesn't make sense here and is rather suspicious - we have no way to know that about Alligates, and no reason to believe you. A "godfather" is a mafia don that flips innocent on inspection and death; in this case, I meant a more general mafia-aligned role. A mafia recruiter of some sort is actually pretty common, or maybe Alligates was just a pseudo-lover who happened to bond with a mafia, and retained innocent inspection status.

A tie doesn't necessarily help - if it's resurrect the dead, then a godfather/innocent-appearing Alligates can kill me for blazhy.

I don't believe you, so no, I don't.

And I know you are, so touche. Outside communication is not an innocent thing to assume in a no-communication-unless-specified game. I don't think it's incongruous, but I was paraphrasing since, you know, PMs are lightly suggested not to be quoted.

My suggestions was to inspect me again!

It must be the 25% chance kicking in, then, since if the actual inspector found me as mafia they would've said so. :P I doubt DarkAura would be, since your character matches your role and mine kind of matches mine, so it really doesn't make much sense. Try again tomorrow?

Godfathers are traditionally in-on-the-mafia people who show up as innocent - I was using the term generally, so I suppose I should've clarified. Sorry?

No real reaction to that, since what I think is that you won't show up innocent, and you know.

... Also, wow, ninjas. Abstain or lynch blazhy, it doesn't matter as much to me, but I do think blazhy is mafia, and Majora's claim is. A thing.