'Shipping Fan Club~

[Dannichu]

I'm stupidly good at quoting. I have no memory for numbers whatsoever, but throw me any Buffy quote and I'll (a good 90% of the time) be able to tell you who said it to whom, in which episode. What can I say? It's a gift XD

Oh God, I'm with you on the cutscenes. My stupid FFX disc was scratched and kept freezing at different places after the battle with Evrae above Bevelle, so I saw the scene afterwards (the hilariously stupid one of Yuna throwing herself off a building) what felt like hundreds of times.

Well, regular Willow's plenty adorable (especially in that ep), but VampWillow's not what I'd call cute, no. But, oh god, the neck licking shouldn't be as erotic as it is DX

I'm saying nothing about Spike because I really don't want to spoil stuff for you. You'll know it when it happens (and it doesn't for a while). The only person I can comfortably ship Spike with is Dru and maybe, possibly Giles, but that's less romantic and more "I die laughing every time they're in a scene together in series 4".

Giles/Ethan: Y/N?

Well, Regal and Kratos have way more in common than either of them do with Raine, that's for sure (my names for Raine/Kratos being ResponsibleAdultsShipping 1 and Raine/Regal being ResponsibleAdultsShipping 2 because, seriously that's all I could think of), so it's not totally cracky.
I remember Raine/Genis being Sageshipping (Or Sagecest, which, even if you loathe the pairing (I don't ship it but can't bring myself to hate it) is an awesome word) and I'll list more as I think of them but I have to go now.

And the ToS!only pairing meme? Do iiiiit.

 

[Minish]

...ResponsibleAdultsShipping. XDD Oh wow. I've never been fond of the '___shipping' thing, because I never know what people are on about as they tend to be rather obscure. But yours are hilarious. X3

Ahh, you guys make me want to watch Buffy. I've never seen any of it.

 

[Keltena]

Oh, really? All right, then! "...We're here to resuce you." *plays Jeopardy theme music*

I saw the end-of-the-world cutscene in FFVI seven times, because I kept redoing that part to get this one chest I kept missing. (It... contained an Elixir.) Then on my replay I died on the boss of the area and had to see it again. Then I got through it properly, made some progress, and... died and realized I hadn't saved. Dx

Willow is made of adorable. <3 And Vamp Willow is made of... something else that I can't put a name to. But I like it.

All right, then. Hm... Spike/Giles? xD That sounds, uh... interesting!

Y/N? Is there a 'maybe-probably-yes' answer? =D;

I know... they have the exact same backstory. Plus they'd just get along nicely. And Regal might be able to get Kratos to stop being such an irresponsible jerk!
ResponsibleAdultsShipping = WIN. Um... can we have Colette/Tabatha be VesselShipping or something? 8D

...you know what? I will. *is totally not supposed to be writing the rest of a song or anything*

SIX PAIRINGS I LIKE:
1. Zelos/Colette
2. Yuan/Martel
3. Lloyd/Zelos
4. Colette/Presea
5. Tabatha/Mithos
6. Zelos/Kratos

THREE SHIPS I'VE ABANDONED:
7. Genis/Mithos
8. Raine/Regal
9. Kratos/Martel

THREE SHIPS I'VE NEVER LIKED:
10. Zelos/Sheena
11. Kratos/Yuan
12. Raine/Kratos

TWO SHIPS THAT HAVE PIQUED MY INTEREST:
13. Lloyd/Presea
14. Kratos/Colette

1. Why do you dislike #11 so much?
Because, I don't know, it just seems like 'oh hey they know each other really well and they both lost their girlfriends, let's ship them'. Um. No. Also please to stop making Yuan all uke-y; he's not.

2. Who do you know that ships #13?
I've got an acquaintance on FF.net who's obsessed with it. Hawk of the North, I think.

3. What would be your idea scenario for couple #3?
Hm... can has Zelos betrayal angst and Lloyd being, well... Lloyd? c: I like my angstfluff, thanks.

4. What is your favorite moment for #1?
That whole skit with the two of them. "Doesn't it bother you? Being the Chosen, I mean?"

5. How long have you been following couple #6?
Since I talked to a 'shipper and got an explanation for the pairing. It's probably the most psychologically interesting one I 'ship in this game (though Tabatha/Mithos comes close); not my favorite, but very cool.

6. What's the story with #8? What made you stop caring?
Because I decided they didn't make that great a couple, they were just kind of mildly compatible if you wanted to see it that way.

7. Which ship do you prefer -- #2 or #4?
Yuan/Martel, but love them both.

8. You have the power to make one ship nonexistent. Choose from #10 or #12.
Bye-bye, Sheelos~ :3

9. What interests you about #14?
The contrast, for one -- Colette is the definition of innocence, while Kratos sees himself as all "SINNNN" and "FAAATE" and "AAANGST". I like the dynamic on the Journey of Regeneration, where Colette, Kratos, and Raine are the only two who know about the Chosen's fate, and Colette also seems the most forgiving of Kratos's actions. But basically I just like the whole purity/sin thingamawhatsit.

10. When did you stop liking #7?
Uh... hm. At some point?

11. Did your waning interest in #9 kill your interest in the series?
...obviously not.

12. What's a song that reminds you of #5?


13. Which of these ships do you love the most right now?
Zelos/Colette~ <3

14. Which do you dislike the most?
Sheena/Zelos.

15. If you could have any of these pairings double date, who would they be?
Lloyd/Presea and Zelos/Colette. It would be cavity-inducing, and they'd both be all awkward and "wow, we're weird couples".

16. Have #2 kissed yet? Elaborate if yes.
...I'd guess so, yes.

17. Did #4 have a happy ending? Do you think one is likely?
Well, they both got individual happy endings, so I'll say yes.

18. What would make you start shipping #14?
Um... a good fanfic or really good argument for it.

19. If only one could happen, which would you prefer -- #2 or #6?
Yuan/Martel is canon, and I like it that way, so #2.

20. You have the power to decide the fate of #10. What happens to them?
They break up on hopefully not horrible terms. Maybe Zelos goes and finds Colette or Lloyd... let's say Colette, so Sheena can be with Lloyd. c:

...ohgodI'mcrazy.

 

[Dannichu]

...ResponsibleAdultsShipping. XDD Oh wow. I've never been fond of the '___shipping' thing, because I never know what people are on about as they tend to be rather obscure. But yours are hilarious. X3

Ahh, you guys make me want to watch Buffy. I've never seen any of it.

Nah, I'm not a fan of the crazy 'ship names, either, but I do enjoy making fun of them (90% of the HP ones are just bizzare). And, in something like ToS, it's just an excuse to find a connecting point between two randomly chosen characters (which is surprisingly easy to do).

However, I'll take weird 'ship names any day of the week over the stupid, stupid nameshmushes. Yuffentine? Spuffy? Colloyd? What is this madness?
While some of them do admittedly trip off the tongue quite nicely (I kept accidentally saying "Xander and Anya" as "Xanya" even before I knew it was the nameshmushed 'shipname) and others are sometimes quite nifty (the Tara/Willow nameshmush of "Tallow" is fairly cool, given it's an actual word for the stuff they used to make candles out of, and given how much candles (particularly "extra flamey" ones) play in their relationship, I can't help but find it pretty cool), I still either write pairings out in full or just use initial/initial (shipping is srs bsns, guys).

Alsoalsoalso, you reeeeeeally should watch Buffy, Cirrus. My best friend at uni got me addicted to it, and I've been hopelessly in love with it ever since. I absolutely cannot recommend it enough <333

Salamander: (I don't want to stretch the page by quoting)

Though that phrase is probably said many times in the series (let's face it, a lot of rescuing happens), I'm gonna guess Oz saying it to Willow (and Xander) in, uh... Lover's Walk?

Hehe, I read a Top 100 Buffy Moments list that sums up VampWillow rather well:

I loved [Doppelgangland] the moment I watched it, and have loved it ever since. It is, of course, largely all about Vamp Willow. She's evil, skanky, and kinda gay, but she's so disarmingly charming while running around and trying to kill people.

So true! <3

Hmm. I only visit a few fansites that host 'shippy stuff outside the stuff I normally read, but from what I can tell, most of the SpikeSlash happens with Angel. Which, I think, is hinted at in canon in Angel the Series. Oh, or Xander apparently. Hm.

And Regal might be able to get Kratos to stop being such an irresponsible jerk!

Say it's so! :D

VesselShipping, I like it :3
Got anything better for Colette/Presea than my (rather wordy) "Adorably cute, super-strong, lost her soul and got it back again :D"-shipping?

I also think there's a better name for Tabatha/Presea than the RobotShipping I came up with (given, y'know, that Presea's not a robot). I've read a couple of (G-rated) T/P fics and it's actually pretty cool.

I dunno if I've said this before, but I'm totally with you on the not-liking of Sheena/Zelos. It just seemed really... forced, and given that all the skits with them in ended with Zelos saying something inappropriate and Sheena blushing and yelling at him, it made it a bit hard to like, given how quickly it got stale.

And while I do think a really well-thought-out Zelos/Kratos fic would be pretty awesome, the fact that the vast majority of people who 'ship it are only in it for the eyecandy puts me off.

Anyways, I enjoyed the your ToS!ShipMeme very muchly; thank you :D

In closing (god, do I go on or what?), jumping back a few posts to where I said I adored Tara's actress? I found yet more reasoning as to why she's the greatest person ever.
I was reading a fan interview (she does lots of these; she loves and appreciates her fans very muchly because she's awesome) where they asked her, since she's a published writer as well as an actress, if she were to write a Buffy fanfic, what would it be about.
So she says "Something with Willow and Tara, since they're the characters I'm closest to."
The interviewers nod and agree, and she continues.
"Probably with lots of S&M."

It was fairly awesome.

 

[Keltena]

Namesmushes... oh god, the namesmushes. Dx I really like "Colloyd", just because I like 'ship names that are actual words, but a lot of them... Many names just do not go together, period.

Hm, actually it's said by Oz (who is with Xander) in "Gingerbread", when they crash into the room after Cordelia and Giles have already saved the day. But hey, you were close?

Haha, that's exactly why I love vampire!Willow -- she's so endearingly out of place. Pouting when people don't run screaming from you is a rather adorable habit.

...Spike and... Xander. This is one of those ones where I don't think I'm even going to ask, because, well... I don't want to know! (I've also heard of Xander/Angel, actually, which has got to be the most hilariously nonsensical thing ever~)

Uhhhhm. Give me a moment... You could take parts of that sentence and be all "SoulShipping" or something, but I don't really like it. Um... "ZombieShipping"? "BouncyHairShipping"? "HammerShipping"?

*runs off to make random pairing generator in OpenOffice*

"MonotoneShipping"? No clue for that one, to be honest... No, I agree, it sounds cute! n_n

Haha... I've written, like, an essay on not liking it after being bombarded by 'shippers. It just... doesn't make sense, considering that Sheena's clearly shown to be completely taken in by Zelos's carefree-flirtatious-idiot act.

I remember one pretty well thought-out one on FF.net, where it started with Zelos attempting suicide and got interesting (and no, it wasn't Zelos being angsty and suicidal). It did a pretty good job of portraying the characters, but the relationship was a bit rushed... I'll see if I can find it. It's a very complicated pairing, though, once you get into it. Which, uh, is something I like. xD;

Yay~ I kind of need to lay off the ToS-shipping, but it's so addictive.

...I haven't even seen Tara on the show. And yet that is amazing and that actress should be given cookies. Delicious cookies.

 

[Vladimir Putin's LJ]

I like name mushes if only for Hausvilson.

 

[Dannichu]

Hausvilson is an awesome 'ship name. Hilson, on the other hand, is not. Nor is Huddy.
I loathe the pairing, but I conceed that the nameshmush "Foreteen" is pretty damn cool, though.
I haven't seen a pairing name for Thirteen/Cuddy, but given Thirteen's last name is Hadley (even though that name is mentioned like once in the whole series), I like to think the 'ship name is "Cuddly" X3

Why don't more people write more Kutner slash? One-sided Kutner/House is the cutest darned thing ever. Though, when it comes to the House fandom, I'm a bit of a pairing whore and will read any combination of House, Wilson, Chase and Kutner, and any combination of Thirteen, Cameron and Cuddy. And Stacy >>

Colloyd is a real word? Huh. You learn something new every day.

I totally think they should've given VampWillow her own series. It would be fantastic! And, let's face it, probably X-rated, given how "there are people in chains and we can ride them like ponies", but still.
I wish we'd got to see what the vamp versions of everyone else would be like; I think Oz and Cordelia would've been pretty great. And, even though she wasn't around then, just the idea of a vamp Tara... guh.

I actually had a poke around on some of the darker corners of the interweb (and some of them are very dark) and it turns out that Spike and Xander is a very commonly 'shipped 'ship.
Although I did find a rather excellent series 5 quote I'd forgotten about ending with Buffy saying to Xander "I'm not sleeping with Spike... although I'm starting to think maybe you should.", as well as some teasing from Spike in the S4 episode Hush... but that's all the canon support for the pairing I can think of.

Haha, I like BouncyHairShipping a lot XD

Yeah, that's true (about the Z/S thing), and Sheena isn't comfortable talking about her past with pretty much anyone but Lloyd, either.

I haven't read ToS-fic in the longest time. I just get annoyed with all the badfics on FF.net and haven't found a good livejournal comm or independent fic archive or anything.
But 'shipping, even without the accompanying fics, is still amazing fun XD

Which Buffy ep are you up to now?

 

[Keltena]

...What I got out of this conversation is that I need to watch House and "Cuddly" is an even better 'ship name than "Spork".

Well, no, Colloyd isn't a word. Colloid is. ;D

I'm not sure about her own series, but something spinoffy or to acknowledge her would be nice. <3 And vamp!Cordelia... oh god wonderful. I would comment on Oz, but, I kind of have no clue what he'd be like as a vampire. Except kind of. But not.

...very common? You mean, like, it's one of the top 'ships, or like there are a million Buffy slashfics and as such there are also a lot of that pairing? Because the former would be really weird... unless, as that quote suggests, there's cause to 'ship them later? I dunno.

Their hair is ridiculous. Colette's has that weird curling thing in her model where it just... defies physics. And don't get me started on Presea... But I think the pairing name does capture some of the adorableness? n_n

Yeah... Lloyd is just a very "I feel comfortable talking to you" person, considering how well pretty much all of the soulmate scenes work. Sheena/Lloyd is cute, although it's not my favorite due to, I dunno, being a little less complicated than most of what I 'ship.

I've stopped reading most fics too unless they're chapter stories I follow. I'm still writing them, though. (Will tell if I find, in my search, a good archive.)
I know... I love coming up with random pairings and trying to justify them.
I'm actually doing one of those theme sets on LiveJournal, '1sentence', where you're supposed to write a sentence for each of fifty themes on one pairing. I'm doing fifty non-overlapping pairings for Exit Fate, and it was ridiculous trying to come up with explanations. xD

Um... let's see, the last one we saw was the one where they captured Willow and exchanged her for that box the Mayor wanted? Near the end of S3, I think.

...Buffy is taking over this thread isn't it.

 

[Dannichu]

If you get the chance to see it, House is a very good series. The medical part is good (it's fairly accurate as far as medicine on TV goes, and it's explained pretty well for the people without medical degrees), and the characters are all lovely. Actually, Foreman really bores me, but lots of other people like him :D Plus, there's a whole metric ton of 'shipping to be had with it.
My friend talked me into buying the series 1-3 boxset when we saw it for £30 about a year ago and I watched all 60-something episodes in a week or so XD

Hahah, "Spork" XD So good! I bet all the hardcore trekkie fans hate that, through, given Kirk/Spock was the pairing that invented the term "slash" by putting a slash between the character names.
I know my 'shipping history.

"Colloid", huh?

–noun
1. Physical Chemistry. a substance made up of a system of particles with linear dimensions in the range of about 10−7 to 5 × 10−5 cm dispersed in a continuous gaseous, liquid, or solid medium whose properties depend on the large specific surface area. The particles can be large molecules like proteins, or solid, liquid, or gaseous aggregates and they remain dispersed indefinitely.

Have to say, Colette/Lloyd isn't the first thing to jump to mind after reading that, but it's nifty nonetheless.

I just think that everything should have its on series. Hehe, in one of the audiocommentaries for one of the episodes in mid-series 4, I forget which one, Douglas Petrie says that he wants Willow's hat to have its own show. I wholehearedly agree. Willow's hats are the greatest things.

Actually, I have no idea what vamp!Oz would be like, either. Can werewolves even become vampires, given they have something demony in them already? Who knows.

Okay, I went on FF.net, looked at the Buffy fanfiction communities, put them in order of Archive Size and looked at the pairing-specific Comms. The results are.. surprising.

1. Willow/Buffy
2. Spike/Buffy
3. Spike/Dawn (wtf?)
4. Buffy/Angel
5. Buffy/Angelus
6. Buffy/Faith
7. Xander/Willow
8. Faith/Spike
9. Faith/Xander
10. Spike/Willow

I find this highly disturbing. But, eh, whatever floats your boat.

Aaaand for ToS (because this is mind-numbing fun!):

1. Kratos/Anna
2. Sheena/Zelos
3. Lloyd/Sheena
4. Zelos/Colette
5. Zelos/Lloyd
6. Kratos/Raine
7. Genis/Presea
8. Martel/Yuan
9. Raine/Regal
10. Raine/Lloyd

There's nothing really shocking on there. I'm surprised Kratos/Anna came top (one half of the pairing is someone we never meet), but everything else is what I'd pretty much imagined.

Colette's inward hair-flick thingy at the end makes absolutely zero sense, yeah. It doesn't even look good! Presea's hair defies physics just as much, but in the Grand Tradition of Anime Hair(tm), it's a little more normal.

Aaah, the soulmate scenes. I love how sweet some of them are and how much insignt to the characters you get (hello Zelos!) and then you've got Regal. Who talks about his company. And his guilt. Like we didn't know about all that already.

You write? Aww, that's so cool! I haven't written in ages. Well, actually, I'm secretly writing an AU Buffy fic, but I dunno if I'll ever a) finish, or b) post it.
I've seen a few 1sentence fics and they're so great; I ramble on for so long, if I tried to keep something as a single sentence, it'd end up as one horrible-to-read paragraph.

Oooh; the S3 finale is goooood. My second-favourite, I think (after S5). The second one's good, but just so, so saaaaad D:

Oh God, I've made Buffy take over the thread again; I'm sorry! I'm just in a hugely Buffyish mood; I stayed up till 5am last night watching Buffy with PK over MSN XDDD

 

[Keltena]

I know House is awesome, having seen several random episodes. I need to watch some seasons in order, though, so I can get into the characters. Which will add yet again to my million fandoms... oh well~

Yeah, the meaning has nothing to do with it; it's just a great 'ship-name IMO. xD; It's funny; I've stopped hating Colette, and yet I've never gotten into Colette/Lloyd. I've gone from being "no it's boring and annoying and cliche" to "no there's nothing romantic about their relationship". Which is completely opposite of what the writers themselves apparently think, so. ._.

That's... kind of interesting. Although, the communities aren't at all a good way to judge in my opinion since they're often made by fans of unpopular pairings in order to group them together. I'd say ToS goes something more like this:

1. Sheena/Zelos
2. Sheena/Lloyd
3. Kratos/Yuan
4. Kratos/Raine
5. Kratos/Anna
6. Genis/Presea

...etc., but I dunno. If I really wanted to measure it, I could search each pairing, but... meh.

The soulmate scenes are <3. Poor Zelos, although I still adore his scene because he gets such amazing lines and development; I also love Raine's. And Genis's. And Presea's, which is surprisingly the most romantic of all of them (partly the reason I'm interested a little in Presea/Lloyd).

Yeah; I do way too much fanficcing. I have a couple Zelloyd fics, a couple random and all-over-the-place things, and now I'm working on a Zelos/Colette one, among others. Soyeah.
@AU Buffy fic: POSTPOSTPOSTPLZ. Especially if it's finished. Seriously.
1sentence is great; I'm defeating the purpose by hardly exploring each pairing at all, but it's an interesting, if separate, project. Some of my sentences are short; I cheat with semicolons and dashes but otherwise don't ramble too much.

Mmm... If there's one thing the Buffy writers are good at, it's at putting emotional impact into everything whether you agree/relate with the characters or not. I can't wait to finish this season; we have one more disc to go through, iirc.

Haha, it's okay, although we might want to take this to PMs/visitor messages/IMs if this goes on much longer? And... you can watch Buffy over MSN? You will have to explain that to me at some point. xD

 

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Well, I went and got the first series of Buffy. :D And I've ordered the second, too (£3 each on Amazon because I got VHS versions >D) and GOD it is shippy. Seriously. Omg. I ship everybody so far and I've watched like, five episodes.

It's actually surprisingly good. Predictable, but I'm sure it'll get better. Giles, Xander and Willow are all absolutely awesome. And OMG such good scripting. "I laugh in the face of danger! ...then I hide until it goes away". XD

 

[Keltena]

'Surprisingly good' is a great way to describe Buffy. I watched the first episode and was 'meh', then saw the second and liked it, and by the time I'd finished that disc I was hooked. It's just so tongue-in-cheek, and it loves messing with your expectations (wait till you get to 'Homecoming' in season 3~)

By "I ship everybody", you mean you ship everyone with everyone? 'Cause I kinda did that at first. (Xander/Cordelia = <3 though.)

 

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Yeah, it's like the kind of thing I'd normally think of as cheesy and a little too tongue-in-cheek, but... better. I think it's being all cliché and lame and then suddenly there's this line that just makes me gleeful. XD

And yeah, there aren't many ships (using the characters I've come across so far; Buffy, Xander, Willow, Giles and I suppose Angel and Cordelia but I don't like them so I don't think of shipping them) I don't like. XD; Hell, the first thing I've started shipping is Buffy/Giles. Considering how rare I ship that kind of thing...

Plus, Xander is the character I would normally hate, but I actually like him. His role being what it is, I really expected him to just be annoying.

Many plot holes though. Of course. XD Like why the hell were Xander and Willow immediately accepted into the whole situation, when Giles is always telling Buffy that she can't get too comfy with people who don't understand what she has to do? And then there's how everyone's so accepting of everything... but yeah. Just my thoughts so far. Otherwise I love it <3

 

[Keltena]

Oh yes; it always looks like it's setting up for something painfully dumb, and then... not.

Mm; Buffy and Giles have a great platonic relationship. I don't 'ship it, but hey. (Buffy/Xander is something I've thought about lately... like I said, I'm a Xander/Cordelia fan, but I think the former could be pretty good too.)

Ah, and Xander gets the best lines~ ...except for Willow and Cordelia, sometimes. I feel like he doesn't get as much overall character development as the others, though, but he's still great.

Y-eahh... the early episodes start out a little jarring in places, but it smooths out nicely later on. n_n

Also: Danni, if you're reading this, I'd just like to blame you for getting me into making "SomethingShipping" 'ship names up obsessively. Now I'm crossover-shipping Akihiko (Persona 3) and Kratos (ToS) and calling it Don'tOverdoItShipping just because they say the same line when they use a healing spell.

>:[

 

[Dannichu]

Yaaaay we've converted another one! Stick with it, Cirrus, it's absolutely brilliant, even though the first season isn't the best. The last couple of seasons aren't brilliant either, but 2, 3, 4 and 5 are excellent. Haha, I know, the ease with which Xander and Willow accept not only the existence of vampires but are totally cool with their friend turning into one is actually pretty funny, but it does get a lot better, I promise.

Tongue-in-cheek is one way to describe it. You know the term "Lampshade hanging" from TVtropes? The one where they draw attention to the absurdity of a plot hole? The Buffy Writers actually invented the term XD

And, god knows, there's so much to ship. Naturally, it's such a huge fandom that pretty much every pairing, no matter how small, has some fan recognition, but sometimes it's just silly.
...I hate myself for reading Tara/Spike fanfiction. I couldn't hate the pairing more (I've tried and tried, but it just doesn't work on any level), but for some reason the writers are really good at characterisation and dialogue. Damn them.

I confess I never saw Buffy/Giles. Xander/Buffy is actually really quite sweet, and while we're discussing early-series pairings, I also really like Jenny/Giles and (don't judge me) Jenny/Willow. I wanted to ship Willow and Buffy so much, but it's very difficult even for a hopeless slasher like me to make their relationship romantic. I don't think I actually ship Angel with anyone. O.o
Which episode are you up to now? (a question directed at both of you :))

Haha, Don'tOverdoItShipping XDDDD I love it!

 

[Minish]

Yeah, I think Buffy/Giles have a great platonic relationship as well, they have such interesting dynamics... and yet I just can't stop shipping them now. >_< It's annoying, because usually I just would not ship something like that (older man/really younger woman) and the fanfiction is terrible.

...God, I'm glad you two are saying the first series isn't one of the best, because I really, really liked it. |D Now I'm excited about watching the rest because they'll be even better!

Haha, yes, you certainly have converted someone else, Danni. XD I'm obsessed with Buffy now. I have no idea why I didn't check it out before.

XD I love the term Lampshade hanging... I only found out the other day they invented it, I can really see how they did, there is a lot of it within the show...

I really saw Willow/Buffy in the first episode, and then I just didn't think anymore of it. I knew Willow got into a lesbian relationship later on, so I figured it might be with Buffy, but now I know it won't be and I just... can't see it much at all anymore.

I've finished the first series now. :D So I've seen... 11 episodes, I think?

I would be watching the second one as we speak, but I forgot to order the second box set while I was waiting, and now I have to wait about a week until it arrives. XD; And my mum found all of the third series and half of the fourth in a charity shop the other day, so now I have to try and avoid watching them and just wait for the second...

Speaking of waiting, I clearly couldn't because I've looked up Buffy on Wikipedia and TVTropes and thus have spoilt myself for so much. >_> Before watching Buffy I knew pretty much nothing except 'Willow turns into a lesbian witch or something?' Now I know two characters who die, and a couple of other stuff. And I know some characters survive, so that's pretty much a spoiler as well, and I know characters that'll get together... ARGH why do I do this to myself? ;~;

(yay for incoherant posts!)

 

[Dannichu]

Guh, I hate shipping something and only finding terrible fanfiction for it. I would link you to a site that has fics for all kinda of pairings, but a) I don't want to spoil you for things to come more than you have already, and b) the site's been down for a few days. I really, really hope it comes back; there were some fics on there I like and didn't have saaaaaved ):

General consensus is that the second and third seasons are the best. Fan opinion on the fourth season is mixed, but I utterly adore it. Generally speaking, series 2 has a very good overarching plotline, series 4 has very good individual episodes, and series 3 has both. I really like 5, but it is a bit weaker (some say the series should've ended with the S5 finale), and 6... well, 6 has ~*THE MUSICAL EPISODE*~. And other things.

Aww, it's a shame you didn't watch it with no prior knowledge. PK's watching it through for the first time with no prior knowledge and keeps me updated with his thoughts and it's so, so funny X3
I wish so much that I could just erase all Buffy-knowledge from my mind so I could watch it again for the first time, knowing nothing about the plot twists. I knew Willow came out as a lesbian partway through the series before I watched it, and, in a cruel twist of fate, knew that a certian character was going to die. I decided that I would try and not like them, having had my heart broken by another character's death and it just didn't work and hurt even more. Stupid Joss, making me love your wonderful, fictional characters )<

Yeah, Buffy videos are really easy to find in charity shops. I ordered the big complete DVD set online, but it took ages to arrive and I had to fight the urge to buy all the videos I found in charity shops in the meantime. If you have car boot sales near you, they're an excellent place to look, too.

Don't spoil it for yourself anymore~ It's not worth iiiiiiit.
(and that includes looking up fanfiction. It's terribly hypocritical of me to say it, but it's true)

Oh no, I just hijacked the thread back into a big Buffy discussion. Not cool, Danni.

Edit: And if I ever do finish the Buffy fic (which is seriously about two chapters long and nowhere near finished, though I'm thinking about maybe NaNo-ing it), I'll let you read it, I promise.

 

[Keltena]

I've been spoiled for a couple things myself. :c (Namely, three people who die. I'm going to point the accusing finger at an otherwise good friend who doesn't seem to know that "I just finished Season 3" means "no one except

Spoiler: Season 2

Jenny Calendar

has died yet".) But... I don't know. I manage to enjoy it anyway, although I'd rather not have been spoiled... ahh I'm rambling.

Haha... I know, reading fanfiction before you finish something is a horrible habit. (Though I did find one amazingly awesome Xander/Oz fic... xD) And yet I do it anyway when stuck with a looong series like this. Bad me. :c

Ah, so I already said this, but... just finished the third series, waiting for the fourth to arrive. And excuse me, but AJFSKDLFJKDSALFDSA THAT FINALE WAS AMAZING IN SO MANY WAYS. in fact there's one thing that could have made it more amazing (and that's if, instead of Angel walking away from Buffy, it was the other way around, because that would have been really powerful) but even that doesn't detract from it because HOLY CRAP EPIC.

/insane fan rant

Jenny/Giles was my favorite pairing in the first couple seasons. <3 At first Xander/Buffy was kind of "yeah, yeah, you have a hopeless crush, we get it", but after seeing more of the show and watching through some rather painfully pathetic Buffy/Angel scenes, I really think Xander would be good for her after all.
I looked for Willow/Buffy a little at first, then decided they were cute enough as close friends. Hm.

Oh hey, I also learned that apparently the general fan name for Colette/Presea is 'SoulShipping'. Hm. But... 'BouncyHairShipping' is rather fun...

Weird crossover 'ships, take two:
AntiFuzzyFeelingsShipping - Laharl (Disgaea)/Neku Sakuraba (The World Ends With You) (this needs a better name)
DitzyAngelShipping - Colette Brunel (Tales of Symphonia)/Flonne (Disgaea)
AnnoyingDyingLinesShipping - Sora (Kingdom Hearts)/Daniel Vinyard (Exit Fate) Every videogame protagonist ever/every other videogame protagonist ever

And so on, and so forth. Any other ideas?

 

[Dannichu]

Aside from, for some reason (and I have no idea where I heard it or why I remembered it before ever caring about Buffy) knowing that Character A died (and I'm actually glad I got some warning for that one), a friend who got a bit enthusiastic describing an episode she liked spoiled me for character B's death (which would've been better if I hadn't known), and reading the DVD episode-guide spoiled me for Character C's death, though the death itself wasn't a huge surprise, the episode was superbly handled. I think the only death that came as a massive shock to me was the spoilery one Salamander mentioned.
And a couple of non-major characters.

God, I can't wait till you two've seen the whole series :D

Yeah, I read a whole megaton of fics before I watched the end of the series, but I mostly managed to avoid spoiling myself silly by mostly sticking to AUs and Uberfics, where the characters are still there, but Sunnydale and stuff isn't, so the plot isn't followed.
Or, one of my favourite kinds of fics, the "behind the scenes" type-stuff, where a fic just fills in the gap where an episode ended or whatever, which doesn't spoil anything other than the episode it's contained in. If you follow.

YES the S3 finale is amazing. Absolutely bloody brilliant. I'm trying to think about which is my favourite series ending and just can't do it. I mean, Prophecy Girl is the first truly excellent Buffy episode, and the one that made me continue watching (and for that I am eternally grateful), Becoming parts 1&2 are both really emotional, Graduation Day 1&2 are both absolutely EPIC (the fight scene in part 1... so good.), the fight against the Big Bad in S4 isn't the best, but the final episode of the season is AMAZING, the season 5 finale might be the best scene in all of Buffy (and, some would say, should have been the episode with which Buffy ended), the series 6 finale is extremely well done (but has a mixed opinon from the fandom) and the S7 finale is, well, pretty much the only reason to watch S7 at all X3

Also, I'm so, so thrilled about you being onto S4. I only hope you like it half as much as I do because I've hyped it up so much :D
I like the second half better than the first, and while it has a few very poor episodes (Goodbye Iowa and The I In Team are both fairly boring, and Where The Wild Things Are is regarded to be possibly the worst episode ever), the good ones more than make up for them. Let me know what you think~

Yeah, Jenny/Giles is easily one of my favourite canon pairings. I'm not normally one for canon pairings (I find them a bit boring and predictible compared to the endless possibilities fanon offers), but I love loads of the canon Buffy couples. I have to say, I'm not a Buffy/Angel 'shipper myself, but I don't really like anyone Buffy ever gets with.

Soulshipping? Well, I guess that make sense, but I have to say I like ours more :)
Haha, I love your Laharl/Neku 'shipname, it's brilliant, and DitzyAngelShipping is so perfect for Flonne and Colette. God, those two would be so perfect for each other; they're pretty much the same person. Needs crossover fic. I'm sure there's a good pairing name for Yuna/Flonne or Yuna/Colette (hell, Yuna/Colette/Flonne, though that one makes my head hurt); Preachyshipping?

 

[Minish]

Well, I've watched all the new Buffy I have, which means I'm halfway through series 2. :D I watched 11 episodes in one day... in which I also had school. Yeaahhhh...

And OH MY GOD Jenny/Giles is quite possibly the sweetest thing I've ever seen ever. And then I realise the bloody spoiler I got, and just... ;~;

Ahhh I really want to go see the musical episode. And it's in SERIES 6 argh that's ages away!

Argh, it's a shame you got spoiled for stuff as well, Danni. D: I've got spoiled for, let me think... three deaths, I think? Argh, it really sucks knowing somebody's going to die BEFORE you meet the character, you just look at them and try not to form any emotional attachment. Or at least, that's what I do. :P Really, I count knowing who isn't going to die as a type of spoiler, I wish I'd just not found out about any of it. But I guess it could be worse.

Omg also Spike and Drusilla are pretty awesome characters. Especially Drusilla. Is it wrong that I find her adorable? o_O I think I'm warming up to Spike, I'll probably end up really liking him. So far though my favourite character is definitely Giles, who just makes me squee every time he enters a room, thanks Anthony Stewart Head for being so damn good at acting! And... wow... I think I actually like every single character. That's so unusual for me.

Especially Buffy. I'm really surprised I like her. I guess it's because she's less invulnerable in the second series, but somehow hearing "blonde, teenage vampire slayer", I didn't really think I would at all. XD

Anyway, rambling over. Must avoid reading fanfiction... I'm afraid I won't be able to stop myself between series, at least when my remaining 2 and 3 arrive I'll just be able to sit down and watch them all (I already have 4 and 5 waiting) without feeling the need to go look at TVTropes. XD