Vote Superjolt. I think we should start building wagons if we're going to be voting normally. I know he's got stuff going on, but I think pressuring him is more productive than pressuring either of the two inactive people at the bottom of my POE.
I'm not townreading [Mr. Ultracool, Superjolt, MP7] + slightly higher tier of [Mist, Julia, Trebek?, Ysabel?]. Not really sure how good I feel about my reads, and endgame sneaks up fast in a smaller game, but ehh good enough for now I guess. If you think I should take someone out or put someone into my voting pool, please talk to me about why!
Umm I guess this would be in line about that comment about fluidity. Like, I get where you're coming from.
I do not think Julia would go to mafia chat before posting, and I don't read any particular purity into the posts she did make. I still do not want to vote her today just out of like... giving some more time to a new player.
Fair, yeah. I see. It's not like mafians talk about everything they will do in day chat during night chat.
I think Ysabel's posting has been fine and rereading her posting I'm moving her up. Though a lot of the reasoning she gave in
#275 was generic, I liked the specificity in her points about Blu, mewtini, and kyeugh, and the straightforwardness in her answering what she'd do in this game as mafia in
#334. I feel meh about her shading people who have been less active, but that's my instinct as well. :/ I kind of think she has a limited number of possible mafia partners, as well.
Thanks, though. What parts were generic? I could expand on them, though I'm thinking maybe you meant the Trebek/Kyeugh part which I was kind of not looking deeply so that's fair.
You could be for sure, but presumably if you are town you aren't lying or withholding anything, and therefore an answer could give me insight into your approach that would allow me to correctly townread you. I also was just curious about how you think about the game, in general, since we haven't played together before but you mentioned some past experience in a different thread.
Also, probably not a super helpful answer, but I ask questions because I want to know the answers, hehe. Could be because I think they'll help me read the answerer or the person we're talking about, because I think the answers may be helpful in the future, or because I'm just curious and I like the social aspect of mafia. I don't usually make reads/conclusions directly about the answers, but I do incorporate them into later reviews, and I can always talk about what I think of a specific post or what I had in mind while asking a specific question.
Ahh. This part cleared a lot of it for me, yep. Partly the why these questions seemed more generic/more meta-related than questions you were asking others.
It's like... maybe possible that this game is sortable by post count? I'm probably wrongly townreading someone who's posting. But I think I'm okay with trying to figure that out later.
Hmm, I already talked about my thought on post count v post quality, but it's not something I'm scumleaning you for. Just like, I wish there were no inactives. (I've had my fair share of bad experiences with people who went inactive, not just for the whole game but sometimes in the middle of the game, and it's not fun.)
Also the realization of Koko being town for those reads on you/Blu seemed really organic, and with Koko as flipped town more difficult to fake.
These are probably fair but also, hmm... I guess I'm magnifying my own confidence / disregarding things, because if I start to let myself talk myself out of those reads, I don't really have anything confident either, hehe.
What was strange about Blu's ISO, kyeugh?
More on the fluidity thing. Not sure if it's AI but it does give me good feelings because a townie's reads will change as they try to solve the game.
vote Mr. Ultracool I guess
Superjolt hedges in most of his takes in
#369 (mewtini and Ysabel are the only ones without some sort of qualifier). I kind of think this is a him thing regardless of his alignment, he wasn't able to say much more confidently after a bit more posting in early Cats... I appreciate him giving the thoughts at least and want to unvote because let's give him another day here.
What does hedging mean by the way? I haven't heard the term in mafia before.
@Bluwiikoon just curious, when you were writing your ISO on Trebek, did you already have in mind everything that you pointed out, or did you come up with it as you were reading? Is there anything that gives you hesitation on him?
Another good question and again I understand the thought behind it.
Superjolt is probably the most scum-looking person at the moment, but that could also plausibly just be a lack of time/experience/interest. For example, he
popped in very briefly at the start of the Day when it seemed like he might be coming under the microscope for inactivity, but didn't stick around for long. More recently, his
reads list was really very thin on information and most people's entries boiled down to "idk". I was also a little bemused when,
in response to my question about his opinion on the representatives idea, he cited mewtini's argument against it - but she didn't make that argument until
after I asked the question!
Ugh, someone tell me whether this is pushing something that makes Superjolt look like mafia or something that makes Superjolt mafia.
Well, now we know Koko was town, so at least this read wasn't fake. Though at the time I think you were already pretty sure Koko was town, so maybe that's not what you meant?
Ehh I'm at like... I don't want to yeet her today. She could be mafia, I don't think it'd be impossible for her to be posting the way she has been as mafia when she seemed to be going to take it easy this game anyway and she's a good wolf. Probably "actively" leaning town if I had to pin something down.
Hmhm. A thought crossed my mind that you could have been mafia buddies with Superjolt, but I think it's very unlikely that you would have started a train on your own buddy when there were other possible options so I'm going to give you more townie points for this. I want to ISO SJ and Koko later. Now that we know Koko was town.
idk how I feel about Trebek's vote on Ultracool and Ysabel's vote on Superjolt. woweek
Fair enough lol. I already explained mine and I'm pretty sure (basically top townread) about Trebek, but I didn't follow EoD, but if it was similar to mine then I say it's a fair analysis.
Townreads but be wary: mewtini, kokorico, Blu, MP7
Julia: Julia
Tonal memes read: kyeugh, sanderidge
Hmm: Mist, Superjolt, Ysabel, Trebek, Ultracool
?????
btw I think Mist pointing out stuff like not talking about the popularity to stop scum from PR hunting was pro-town / "helpful" (in a mostly-NAI way probably) and I'm curious why @Ysabel didn't think so
I already talked about this, but now I'm curious as to what you think of my ISOing of Trebek v Mist?
Surely there'd be more pushback if either wagon was maf, right? I don't have a solid grasp on superjolt but I'm down to ISO if everyone else is 
I don't want to inherently read a lack of commitment to reads as wolfy due to my own experiences in, like, Cats, but it's also possible for them to not want to TMI. Will have to look at more stuff probably!
