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Social Groups

spaekle

emotionless and cold as ice
So, a while back there was a thread where it was mentioned that Social Groups are not moderated at all. This shows. Very, very much. There are at least five groups about spriting, several that serve as RP lounges (isn't there a forum for those?), quite a few that seem to be nothing more than "this particular group of people comes here to spam without consequence", and still more that don't seem to have a point at all and would probably be locked if they were threads in the Clubs forum.

Now, admittedly I don't have many very good suggestions as to what to do myself. This probably revives the clubs forum vs. social groups thing and the redundancy of having both; I do think that having both is, well, redundant. If there's no one willing to take control of social groups/ no one really even cares about them, I wouldn't particularly care if they were just disabled - the activity there seems minimal compared to the Clubs forum anyway. I do think that the Social Groups feature is a neat one that could be very useful if utilized properly, but we did already have the Clubs forum before Social Groups came along, and said forum is what more people seem to prefer.

So, yeah. I'm wanting other people's opinions on this. This wasn't really intended to be obnoxious and whiny, but if it comes across as being that way I'm sorry. :[ Nothing's really up to me anyway.
 
Both seem to serve the same purpose; however, with the Clubs forum, you can't really control who posts in your thread; the Social Cliques feature, however, lets you control very precisely who posts in or even views discussions in your group. Thus, those scheming elitists/atheists/communists/Arylettopians can keep prying eyes away from their spam important discussions.
 
This is true. They serve the same basic purpose of giving people who share a particular interest a place to have discussion about said interest, only one has more sparkly features and privacy options.

I don't think private groups is really a bad thing in itself, but I can see it being slightly abused in some situations ("let's make a private group so we can post stupid random crap and no one can see"). But again, that probably wouldn't be an issue if Social Groups were being moderated by someone.
 
Both seem to serve the same purpose; however, with the Clubs forum, you can't really control who posts in your thread
You can ask for threadmin, though! Then you sort of get control.


I am totally in favour of ditching one of the two. I don't have any personal investment in either, though I'm also in favour of getting rid of all redundant Clubs threads (merge 'm with discussion threads, shove in either forum).

There's no real point having both a Club and a Social Group.
 
Ehh, if I were the one in charge, I'd say ditch the clubs. The Social Clique feature kinda works better for that sort of thing.
 
I'm leaning more toward ditching clubs too.

Edit: Think a poll would be kind of groovy in this situation, if a mod could? :V
 
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You can modify the settings on social groups so that only members (and mods, apparently) can see what's posted there, make them invite-only, things like that.
 
I find the LGBT club to be quite interesting, and the cartoon club is fun. I know you're in the former as well, Spaekle, but if everyone wants to delete clubs I won't speak against it.
 
Yeah, but with social groups, it's possible to set up a discussion that would, if seen by most people, challenge the integrity of a system.

For example, there's an ASBer discussion group only seeable by updaters to the game and mods (apparently). This social group contains game-sensitive information that, if released to the players of ASBer, would (at least partially) destroy the integrity of said game.

If there weren't any social groups, I'd be hard pressed to figure out how to handle something like that.

EDIT: Maybe merge the Clubs into the Misc. Section as a Subforum?
 
Yeah, I know that in both situations there is stuff worth keeping and something cool is probably going to end up lost either way if one is ditched. We could make an LGBT social group just the same if that's the one that ends up being kept, but that doesn't change that that entire thread will be lost. :[
 
I'd like the social groups feature more if there was more control over them. afaik you can't delete discussions or mod people.
 
I'd honestly rather ditch social groups than clubs, mostly for one reason: the social groups are not organized at all. You can't just stumble upon an interesting social group; you won't find one unless you're specifically looking for one to join. With clubs, meanwhile, you can enter the forum to check another club you're in and just happen to eye a club about a subject you also find interesting. It also makes checking your clubs a more natural part of forum browsing. If all clubs were moved to social groups, I'd fall out of them completely and never get back. :/
 
Yeah, parts of how the social groups are organized still kind of bother me, especially how out-of-the way they are in relation to everything else. Although there is a group list that functions much like an ordinary forum listing (but you're far less likely to look at), plus a list of new groups on the main page and a random group at the top. Just sayin'. :V
 
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