HG/SS stallloom, wip

[1. Luftballon]

Sporeberry (Breloom) (F) @ Toxic Orb
Ability: Poison Heal
EVs: 236 HP/252 Spd/22 leftover
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Protect
- Substitute
- Toxic / Focus Punch
- Leech Seed / Sunny Day / Rain Dance

toxic spikes support, and opposed toxic spikes support, make this quite amazing. it has a bit of trouble switching in, but that's what memento from uxie is for. afterwards, it plays like stallrein, except without hail. plant leech seed on a free move (you're not getting one) for bonus damage. if confident with poisoning, focus punch can be used over toxic, switching to jolly, of course.

HP must must must be divisible by 8 for poison heal recovery, though if you want, you can just use 26 HP IVs, or 12 HP EVs, if you want maximum focus punch damage. the speed sucks, but it's 32 TURNS OF STALL that can't be disrupted bar obama or hippo, which is what weather moves can be used for.

this set is subject to all of stallrein's non-weather limitations, especially opposing priority including such as faster avalanche/move and slower ice shard/move. breloom doesn't have defenses worth a damn, so it can't really take the hits.

 

[Adriane]

Seems fun, but what about opposing steels/poisons? At least Stallrein isn't completely sunk against its weaknesses.

 

[Chief Zackrai]

Seems fun, but what about opposing steels/poisons? At least Stallrein isn't completely sunk against its weaknesses.

Breloom is weak to steel...? I figured it would generally be the other way around. I'd worry more about flying and psychic-types here. If he Subs, and the opponent is using a steel-type, just focus punch it. I'd use leech seed because only Grass is immune, and my bet is that generally you aren't using a Breloom to fight grass-types.

 

[Pwnemon]

Vixie has a point. The object of StallRein is that it can kill 2 or more Pokemon through hail damage assuming they are not Ice typed. Breloom has no such guarantee.

 

[Chief Zackrai]

yeah, but Breloom does the same thing with Toxic or Leech seed, which are really useful as long as you can stall.

 

[nastypass]

yeah, but Breloom does the same thing with Toxic or Leech seed, which are really useful as long as you can stall.

Steel types are immune to Poison (both type and status!) and cannot be seeded. Poisons cannot be poisoned, for obvious reasons.

 

[Chief Zackrai]

Which is why I suggested Leech seed, as it affects all types except Grass.

 

[Adriane]

Steel types are immune to Poison (both type and status!) and cannot be seeded. Poisons cannot be poisoned, for obvious reasons.

Steel types can be seeded, but res's implication is that the Toxic Spikes would be doing most/all the work because Breloom will rarely get a chance to actually use Leech Seed.

 

[1. Luftballon]

leech seed and eight turns kills off all non-leftovers steels, 15 or 16 with leftovers, and maybe 17 for lucario. I'd be more worried about poison-types, especially those with liquid ooze (mostly tenta) and those with secondary grass typing. poison/grass are completely immune to this set and resist focus punch. although it can still hit them fairly hard on the switch.

(and how is stallrein not completely sunk against its weaknesses? tyranitar, especially faster subpunch variants, is a guarantee of death what with negative priority to hit after the sub and move to hit before the next sub. this is just sunk against grass/poison, which is a significantly less-used typing.)

EDIT: furthermore, it resists steel and ground, the most common attacking types from steel-types. this thing beats gyro ball and earthquake bronzong, metagross without fire/ice punch, and and steelix reliably after setup.