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Animal Crossing: New Horizons Mafia

Mawile said:
my head currently feels stuffed with cotton balls and i can't think anything coherent longer than 1 sentence so i am currently no thoughts head empty
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chickenhugs for you too then!

In the interest of getting a wagon off the ground that's not based on either "lynch the miller" or "lynch the PR claim before performing a simple and easy verification", here's a tentative vote for Von Fu

I explained my reasoning for scumleaning them here. the tl;dr is that there are a couple of times when it's felt like they're twisting words or deliberately misinterpreting to push their own theory.

anyone interested in joining me?

(and @M Plus 7: if by any chance you're free to pop online in the next ~2.5 hours, we would love to have that simple and easy verification! were you notified of being taken on a plane trip last Night?)
 
Votecount:

Bluwiikoon (3) (tbh^2 #605, von fu #622, m plus 7 #600)
Von Fu (1) (kokorico #1002)
M Plus 7 (1) (JackPK #813)
JackPK (1) (bbt's Huskeldeo #401)
Emmy (1) (Redstrykephoenix #894)
 
Dammit, I always miss an error right after sending.
*Von Fu (2) (kokorico #1002, trebek #800)
 
kokorico said:
Mawile said:
my head currently feels stuffed with cotton balls and i can't think anything coherent longer than 1 sentence so i am currently no thoughts head empty
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chickenhugs for you too then!

In the interest of getting a wagon off the ground that's not based on either "lynch the miller" or "lynch the PR claim before performing a simple and easy verification", here's a tentative vote for Von Fu

I explained my reasoning for scumleaning them here. the tl;dr is that there are a couple of times when it's felt like they're twisting words or deliberately misinterpreting to push their own theory.

anyone interested in joining me?

(and @M Plus 7: if by any chance you're free to pop online in the next ~2.5 hours, we would love to have that simple and easy verification! were you notified of being taken on a plane trip last Night?)
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sorry von fu. Kokorico makes good points.
 
kokorico said:
(I assume, since he said it, that Blu believes MP7 will corroborate his story. Whether or not you think that's AI, and if so on whom, is a different story.)
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ngl kind of flashing back to a game I played where a scum messenger convinced a newbie town that he was being protected by a loud bodyguard
 
Von Fu said:
if mp7 comes in later and clears you then i'll change my vote but until then i am pretty confident you are mafia
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VM, could you walk me through your thought process here? I think I agree with kokorico that Blu probably expects MP7 to confirm this regardless of Blu's alignment / probably wouldn't claim something so easily falsifiable?
 
realllllllly not feeling the energy to try hard at the moment but I like the wagons being tied for now so we can attempt to divine some kind of info out of people moving their vote right before EOD

so if someone else imbalances the votes in the next ~40-60 minutes, I intend to move my vote to rebalance them
 
btw if I understand right what Eifie sees in koko, I'm seeing it too. Specifically like the self-centeredness of the read on Trebek. Good times.

kokorico said:
tierlist I guess. as promised to keldeif. as usual, loosely ordered within tiers. enjoy

chicken god
kokorico

scallop
Trebek - tOwNy MiNdMeLd! I don't want to overlook the fact that we were also kind of mindmelding in tarot, when he flipped scum, but he has been providing some nice reasoning which I can follow and agree with. Also his playstyle is definitely showing signs of wanting to be more active and not just going with the flow, which is what he said he was going to be trying to do.
bbt's Huskeldeo - impossible not to TR the eifmemery tbh. sorry im sorry im trying to delyeet it. Also seems to be doing some decent Keldeoish solvery, which is well within their townrange, especially pointing out the thing about the sensicalness of strykenix knowing he was roleblocked. However, I'm conscious that they are probably the strongest player here, so this is perhaps the entry most likely to change position depending on new information.

froggy chair
Redstrykephoenix - I still don't really get wtf is going on with his claim or lack thereof, but he at least doesn't seem to be actively obstructing town, which is good I guess? and certainly better than I feared.
tbh² - reserving judgement for a bit, but overall liking her thoughts and relaxitudiness. also her cluelessness about AC:NH in general seems like non-TMI
Bluwiikoon - Nudged slightly down because of his claim, which seems a bit odd for the reasons I gave and IMO wasn't a good idea at all if he is town, but I'm still inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt. (However, all this sketchy follow-up isn't helping him out of the hole he's dug himself into, and may push me the other way before EoD.)

manila clam
JackPK - Has been kind of a nonentity, like keifeo pointed out. And having now made this list I'm realising there aren't really quite as many people as I thought who fall into the same category. At the same time, I super empathise with feeling lost in the early phases when there isn't much mechstuff to work with. So. circular thoughts, head gridlocked
Mawile - another vague absentee tbh. more active than Jack, but not really any more readable imo. let's come back to this later
IndigoEmmy - presumably not got her laptop back yet? I forget the details
M Plus 7 - I have never had a great idea of how to read her, so this is more of a "nothing to say". I found her sudden push on Blu odd when it happened, since at the time I was townreading him, but in light of recent events I'm happy to assume for the moment that she was genuinely just picking up on something that seemed off.

coconut
Mist1422 - keeps saying she'll say something, and then not. c'mon mist give us something to work with
Von Fu - Not loving their insistence on going on and on about how nobody should be reading anything into their fake scumslip because it was just memery, even though the whole point is that meming about being scum can be AI as a form of WIFOM. This has been explained at least once inthread and tbqh it's starting to seem like wilful misinterpretation/defeating strawmen. (The thing of talking about Blu's mention of Pietro as if it were a jester soft, which happened while I was typing this, is another good example of that, I think)
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Thanks! I have some questions -

Why does being clueless about the flavor make tbh more towny? Or is there something specific you're referring to there that I'm just not thinking of right now? I think I agree with your read in general, though.

I'm not sure I agree with your thought on VF here, I'm having some trouble seeing how the memeing and their follow-up wouldn't be like, approximately how they'd act as either alignment? Could you try and explain some more?

I do want to try to sell you and Eif on MP being town because I definitely felt something last night, but I don't think that's super relevant/useful just at this moment. Also just for the record, the one who pointed out that about RSP was Eifie, not me (also tyty for calling us strong hehe.)
 
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