Cats (2019) Mafia

[rari_teh]

Keldeo
kokorico
Trebek
M Plus 7
Tofu
Bluwiikoon
Vipera Magnifica

this is like, an okay PoE? but it doesn't really make sense unless ultracool was outgroup in which case herbe isn't really clear

my list is similar to this, only it’s you instead of Trebek (and my kokoro says blu is town)

 

[Novae]

I am not willing to put RNP in the PoE until we get an alternate explanation on where the kill went

unless the team is like

RNP/Tofu/VM/+2 and there was a 1-shot vig

what's wrong with the current explanation
it's not conclusive but it's certainly sufficient to put him in the poe for me at least. there are worlds that make sense where he's mafia

what current explanation

also I think his conviction on emmy has been pretty towny

 

[mewtini]

also I think his conviction on emmy has been pretty towny

how so

 

[kyeugh]

town cascades (barring shenanigans):
herbe > mewtini > rari/kyeugh/emmy
herbe > butterfree

aren't mewtini > rari/me/emmy town anyway by virtue of emmy's green check on mewt

 

[Novae]

also I think his conviction on emmy has been pretty towny

how so

iirc he was like this as town in tvtropes and the second MU invitational

 

[mewtini]

tbh i think he's playing differently than tvtropes

 

[Novae]

town cascades (barring shenanigans):
herbe > mewtini > rari/kyeugh/emmy
herbe > butterfree

aren't mewtini > rari/me/emmy town anyway by virtue of emmy's green check on mewt

oh

technically no but that'd be a separate cascade

 

[kyeugh]

I am not willing to put RNP in the PoE until we get an alternate explanation on where the kill went

unless the team is like

RNP/Tofu/VM/+2 and there was a 1-shot vig

what's wrong with the current explanation
it's not conclusive but it's certainly sufficient to put him in the poe for me at least. there are worlds that make sense where he's mafia

what current explanation

also I think his conviction on emmy has been pretty towny

bro we've been talking about it for the last three pages and i've quoted you explaining it already too >:(

if rnp is scum then he blocked emmy and the mafia kill landed on someone who was either bulletproof, an alien, or was protected by a second town healer (that probably exists in the world where rnp is scum, because mewtini is only a half healer)

 

[mewtini]

oh, question. if rnp is villa, then does it make sense for mafia to assume there was a second healer? it wasn't known that i was only a partial healer

 

[kyeugh]

oh, question. if rnp is villa, then does it make sense for mafia to assume there was a second healer? it wasn't known that i was only a partial healer

hm, i don't think so tbh. unless *tinfoils* herbe is also mafia

with this in mind i think it might actually be harder to explain the lack of a kill right now if rnp isn't mafia?

 

[Novae]

I am not willing to put RNP in the PoE until we get an alternate explanation on where the kill went

unless the team is like

RNP/Tofu/VM/+2 and there was a 1-shot vig

what's wrong with the current explanation
it's not conclusive but it's certainly sufficient to put him in the poe for me at least. there are worlds that make sense where he's mafia

what current explanation

also I think his conviction on emmy has been pretty towny

bro we've been talking about it for the last three pages and i've quoted you explaining it already too >:(

if rnp is scum then he blocked emmy and the mafia kill landed on someone who was either bulletproof, an alien, or was protected by a second town healer (that probably exists in the world where rnp is scum, because mewtini is only a half healer)

I said I think RNP is clear unless the kill was stopped by other means why’d you dispute that it’s confusing me

 

[kyeugh]

I said I think RNP is clear unless the kill was stopped by other means why’d you dispute that it’s confusing me

because "unless the kill was stopped by other means" is a huge if and i don't see why you're not including him in the POE with that massive caveat

 

[mewtini]

oh, question. if rnp is villa, then does it make sense for mafia to assume there was a second healer? it wasn't known that i was only a partial healer

hm, i don't think so tbh. unless *tinfoils* herbe is also mafia

with this in mind i think it might actually be harder to explain the lack of a kill right now if rnp isn't mafia?

yeah ... now i'm hmmming because i essentially just doctorclaimed at EoD.

 

[mewtini]

maybe that adds credence to the idea of mafia just targeting me then?

 

[Tofu]

Mewt, I don't want to like, out you, but I think people aren't getting that you were a one-shot healer (I thought you made this clear like at the start of toDay but maybe I imagined it). I'm assuming you have a kind of JOAT role or something... Meaning you could have other abilities during other night phases. Feel free to just deny/ignore this if you don't want anyone to know, but I just want people to consider that possibility.

I would also think that would mean there would likely be another doctor who is permanently a doctor (if they are still alive).

 

[kyeugh]

to resummarize (mostly for my own use):

• if rnp is scum, he blocked emmy and the mafia targeted someone else—likely mewtini, who would be covered by an unknown town healer
• if rnp isn't scum, he and mewt both protected emmy, and the mafia probably targeted her for some reason?
• in either of these cases, it's possible the mafia simply targeted someone bulletproof/alien.

i can't really wrap my head around the second bulletpoint though? is there any explanation for this that i'm missing other than that the mafia just made a really suboptimal move for some reason?

 

[Novae]

if RNP was scum why not block mewtini and shoot emmy though

 

[Novae]

to resummarize (mostly for my own use):

• if rnp is scum, he blocked emmy and the mafia targeted someone else—likely mewtini, who would be covered by an unknown town healer
• if rnp isn't scum, he and mewt both protected emmy, and the mafia probably targeted her for some reason?
• in either of these cases, it's possible the mafia simply targeted someone bulletproof/alien.

i can't really wrap my head around the second bulletpoint though? is there any explanation for this that i'm missing other than that the mafia just made a really suboptimal move for some reason?

if RNP is town there’s probably a mafia roleblocker that was on mewtini, yes?

 

[Trebek]

maybe that adds credence to the idea of mafia just targeting me then?

to resummarize (mostly for my own use):

• if rnp is scum, he blocked emmy and the mafia targeted someone else—likely mewtini, who would be covered by an unknown town healer
• if rnp isn't scum, he and mewt both protected emmy, and the mafia probably targeted her for some reason?
• in either of these cases, it's possible the mafia simply targeted someone bulletproof/alien.

i can't really wrap my head around the second bulletpoint though? is there any explanation for this that i'm missing other than that the mafia just made a really suboptimal move for some reason?

as far as the second bullet point goes:

if i was maf after last EoD, there’s a chance that i would’ve gotten pinged by mewts confidence and decided to take the risk of there maybe being another healer targeting mewt

just a possible explanation

 

[mewtini]

if i was maf after last EoD, there’s a chance that i would’ve gotten pinged by mewts confidence and decided to take the risk of there maybe being another healer targeting mewt

what do you mean by pinged here