Cats (2019) Mafia

[mewtini]

oh yeah i actually did completely forget about emmy

i didn't!!! :( anyway i'm getting cold feet and will vibe on the safe keldeo wagon for now because i don't feel like thinking hard rn

 

[Bluwiikoon]

 

[Vipera Magnifica]

I don't think it's possible there is a mafia rolecop given that Herbe was a town rolecop. Jack (let alone anyone from tcod meta) would never give both town and mafia a rolecop, and if I'm wrong about that I don't know Jack.

skylar, I think the only reason you were blocked is because you told rari your role...

 

[kyeugh]

what’s the probable town/scum ratio rn
i kinda feel like town should not fire any more night shots if it’s as close as i’m thinking

 

[kyeugh]

I don't think it's possible there is a mafia rolecop given that Herbe was a town rolecop. Jack (let alone anyone from tcod meta) would never give both town and mafia a rolecop, and if I'm wrong about that I don't know Jack.

skylar, I think the only reason you were blocked is because you told rari your role...

honestly this seems increasingly likely to me too, especially because i’m almost sure rari would’ve predicted that i would attempt to use my power last night

but. i do think keldeo is probably safer for now, i’m not 100% sure on it and i think i saw someone say we might be in mylo?

 

[kyeugh]

btw the fact that herbe flipped scum probably means that town had a full doctor, a joat with healing, AND a jailer, plus scum apparently has a roleblocker. i feel like jack has probably been laughing at our mech spec this entire time

 

[kyeugh]

herbe flipped scum

* town

 

[Vipera Magnifica]

I really should look back at who was originally saying "If RNP flips green, then town should vig Herbe"

Spoiler

They didn't even try to roleblock me because they knew I was going to kill Herbe, all according to keikaku

 

[mewtini]

I really should look back at who was originally saying "If RNP flips green, then town should vig Herbe"

i don't know if she was the first but

i think it doesn't really matter to me if herbe/rnp goes although i think if there's suddenly a big herbe wagon at the end it's probably because he's town
however regardless of who we lynch, if it's between those two, if the lynchee flips green the vig needs to hit the other

 

[kyeugh]

I really should look back at who was originally saying "If RNP flips green, then town should vig Herbe"

idk who said it first but i definitely said it a lot, and butterfree jumps out in my memory as someone who did too

tbh though. it really did seem to be pretty airtight. this game is something

 

[mewtini]

but also like. the theory made sense. so :C

 

[kyeugh]

haha ninja’d haha haha lol

 

[mewtini]

honestly in the event where rari has just been the mafia's agent for pocketing me all this time i'll just. accept it. i'm in too deep to change course now i feel like >:

 

[rari_teh]

btw i didn’t respond to this:

a) someone in mafia noticed herbe’s dogwhistle to mewtini during an ISO (he said, when clearing her D1, that he’d be “a jack of all trades”). they deduced that she was lying about not being limited to one heal. a mafia rolecop checked you, saw that you’re a necro and they decided to block you.

this is way, way more assumptions to make :|a

unfortunately, yes, i agree. which means that b is probably more likely :((

what about the other option when i’m telling the truth :wowee:

the only reason i’m expressing suspicion on either of you is because i got blocked which doesn’t make sense. it would be weird if i did not have this reaction. i don’t see how me meanwhile making a claim that’s not immediately falsifiable results in me actually being nefarious

if you are telling the truth, i completely understand how would you get suspicious of me/mewtini. i would be as well in your place
which brings me to an admittedly wifomy question: why the hell would mafia!me be ok with my scumbuddies blocking you if the obvious implication is that I, who otherwise would be mostly cleared, would be sussed by you?

another conjecture as to why mafia could’ve blocked you: they were probably as ?_? as town was about our three-way clear. mewtini is obviously not the center of it as she’s some sort of healing role, so whatever’s going on must be about either me or you. also why would mewtini and I clear each other 100% but you only 90%? what if they blocked you to see wtf would happen?

it would be surprising to me if Jack ruled that a one-shot role getting blocked, still used up the shot

i asked him about this and haven’t received a response yet, but i did use my power once which is supposed to be how many times i’m allowed to use it, so i’m just assuming it’s used up tbh

and if not, well. it seems unlikely to me that i will get to use it anyway now that the Cat (2019) is out of the bag

if you use it next Night and get simultaneously killed i am inclined to believe that the revival is going to go through tbh

i believe so yeah, i’m actually not limited to using it at night (if i’m interpreting the role pm correctly); it just doesn’t revive the player until the following day phase

then what are you waiting for? submit the revive again tbh!

for jack to answer me about whether my action was used

why tbh? if you send your action while it was used up, it’ll just fail again smh

I really should look back at who was originally saying "If RNP flips green, then town should vig Herbe"

Spoiler

They didn't even try to roleblock me because they knew I was going to kill Herbe, all according to keikaku

iirc it was kyeugh :/

 

[rari_teh]

another conjecture as to why mafia could’ve blocked you: they were probably as ?_? as town was about our three-way clear. mewtini is obviously not the center of it as she’s some sort of healing role, so whatever’s going on must be about either me or you. also why would mewtini and I clear each other 100% but you only 90%? what if they blocked you to see wtf would happen?

this gains even more credit when you factor in that it was obvious that the vig was going to kill herbe. if they deduced that mewtini’s limitations meant that she couldn’t heal twice in a row and they were going to kill emmy anyway, they didn’t have any mechanically correct option for a roleblocking target

 

[Vipera Magnifica]

is2g Tofu has been whining for days about how "rari is totally mafia" and I'm kinda believing it now

rari do you mind recapping why you were pushing so hard for a Tofu lynch?

 

[kyeugh]

why tbh? if you send your action while it was used up, it’ll just fail again smh

? i don’t really get why i must do this immediately, it seems normal to me to just wait a minute for him to answer

speaking of which: he just replied that my power was indeed consumed, and suggested that there’s some precedent for that ruling in the game already. so uh. that is great tbh

rip ils fr this time

 

[kyeugh]

btw im like 75% on trebek being mafia at this point
trebek/keldeo/mist/rari/blu? idk

 

[Vipera Magnifica]

btw im like 75% on trebek being mafia at this point
trebek/keldeo/mist/rari/blu? idk

honestly i am vibing with this

 

[rari_teh]

is2g Tofu has been whining for days about how "rari is totally mafia" and I'm kinda believing it now

rari do you mind recapping why you were pushing so hard for a Tofu lynch?

omg lol. this gets funnier considering that for the longest time both my flashmasons were suspicious of Tofu while I was convinced that she was town
like, i only changed my mind yesterDay

my (former) reasoning lays majorly on some jarring behaviour from her part D3, namely:
a) she pressed on kyeugh insisting that her speculation around the identity of the vig was anti-town and a scumtell (while kyeugh had only elaborated on that because you pressed her into doing it). not even fourty posts later, Tofu herself says completely out of the blue that there was indeed a vig between her and you. i couldn’t, and still cannot, wrap my head around what she was thinking with that.

b) she made a post speculating what would mewtini be… and correctly guessed that she was a JoaT. which is, like, a super rare role that i definitely didn’t think she, as a newbie, would’ve known of the existence. i myself first heard of it when mewtini roleclaimed to me. i (and mewt) suspected that she heard it from a mafia rolecop.

also c) she was extremely insistent on mewtini+I+skylar to spill the beans about what was going about us, which is in my view a highly anti-town move. obviously if we’re not saying it it’s because we believe we have a risk of being nk’d if it gets out.

also also d) her defense of “old posts shouldn’t be used to analyze one’s alignment” sounded as a desperate newbie!mafia move to try and clear herself