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Contest Pokémafia Spectacular! - Game Thread

no like i'll be real i don't have a nailed down reason to leave a vote on qenya and if i claimed i did or trawled through posts picking out "here here here" i would just be pulling it out of my ass like. just being transparent here. it is literally vibes and none of the vibes have been Alleviated so my vote stays. if i had to put it to words it would be, "trying too hard." and yea yea this is frustrating but like /i/ usually try too hard when im mafia so i might just be projecting

Herbe's lack of reasoning beyond gutread for his qenya vote seems a bit sus to me? It is early game and there's not much to go on so weak reads are understandable, but it's also something a maf might do if they want to look town and jump on a bandwagon. (Though the qenya wagon is still also in its early stages. So I guess my reasoning might be a bit of a reach).

@Herbe , do you have anything more to say on why you're voting qenya?

dude i posted that vote knowing that it would not make me look more towny like its a bullshit gutvote its inherently kinda suspicious but i don't particularly care? i have my gutread, all of rnp's reasoning either makes sense or isn't alignment indicative (so irrelevent) in my opinion, i am trying to Actively Play The Game
 
here's what i'm suspicious about:
all of my moves are named after actual moves a solrock could use. i assume mf did research on that since some of them are kind of stretches, when easily one could have just said "fuck it" and put whatever moves on whatever pokemon as long as they're the right type.

namely, i have Solar Beam, Confide, Incinerate, Morning Sun, and Wonder Room. which are all sorta explained, kinda halfway, kinda like the roles were made first and then assigned random moves solrock can learn.

qenya's pokemon, lilligant, can't learn frenzy plant OR body slam. two of the moves that qenya claimed.
oh shit you're RIGHT

i didn't even think about it but yeah frenzy plant is the grass-type starter tutor move isn't it

i can't tell you anything more i'm afraid, all i know is what's in my role PM. best guess is MF found it tricky to reconcile the role she'd already come up with with moves lilligant can actually learn so she had to cut corners. probably explains the lack of meaningful flavour text too. maybe i ought to have given her two options like some of you folks did. sorry MF.

i am mildly put out that you think i would be this bad at fakeclaiming but it's whatever
many things could be said about mf. "cringe." "old." "name is impossible to ISO." but lazy is not something i would call mf. look at Every Single MFia game and tell me if mf cuts corners, like, anywhere.

see, you keep saying my moves are unrelated, but mf really went all in on including not only my personal flavor from the pokestar studios film Red Fog of Terror but also reconciling them with the moveset of a solrock, in a manner that seems a little forced but is definitely very passionate and definitely the opposite of lazy.

like Incinerate, my toughness poisoner appeal-added move, the flavor is "Elevates a contestant's performance with a plume of flame. So, like, were lifeforms on this planet combustible, again...?"


and Morning Sun, my Beauty Popularity-Roleblock move, is

"Illuminates a contestant's performance with a radiant light. Might make it a bit tough for them to see what they're doing, though. Such is the limitation of Earth eyes."


you tell me if MF is cutting corners here
 
i sincerely and entirely doubt that mf would just say "ah lilligant doesn't have a move that fits this, let's just give it moves it don't have"
 
my thought is that it's something like

"You are an Aroma Lady, but you lost your Lilligant a long time ago due to injuries sustained in an accident caused by neglectful management on the part of the Contest Spectacular staff. using your Venusaur, who themself is also bitter about not being as popular as that winged fire hazard and wet turtle, you intend to expose the evils of the Contests and bring justice to the world. you're allied with [name], who shares your conviction and believes in your cause. you win when all town-aligned players are eliminated."
 
screaming into my hands that i'm so tiny brain that it affects people's reads of me. help. i was determined to be helpful and contribute to solving and now here we are


loosely ordered within tiers
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if i had a vote rn (WHICH IS NOW SOMETHING I REMEMBER I DO NOT HAVE) i would actually be inclined to put it on stryke atm since there's already a decent amount of pressure on herbe. i remember rnp previously commenting that a very common mafia!stryke strategy is to fly under the radar as much as possible, and seeing as stryke didn't make it onto this list that's some pretty under-the-radar behavior and would like some posting from him

if stryke's town he usually fucks around a lot and i recall a few scum games of his where his strat was "people will forget i exist if i'm quiet enough"

sorry for weird quote placement but i'm on mobile rn

anyway, if i could i would pressure stryke rn but i can't. as to other leans -
i'm still kind of sus at qenya because of flavor, though it's alleviated somewhat by mewt saying she has reason to believe the flavor is NAI + i think qenya wouldn't put together a flavorclaim that is so obviously out of place for lilligant + if mewt and qenya were cowolfing i don't think they'd come up with quite this strat??? also i love when people put info together in a big list because then i can just work off it lmao. i do have to admit that's influencing my feelings
hoping to see more posting from myuma, feeling good about them so far!
if rnp is mafia i am thoroughly pocketed rip. enjoying this era of solvy rnp either way
i'm pretty unsure on herbe; i do think they're just trying to play the game and put stuff out there even though their moves still seem really sudden/pushy to me. solidly neutral
 
ooooooh yeah i uh i uh i kinda forgot stryke was playing this game ty for recalling that meta bit sande :O
 
i remember rnp previously commenting that a very common mafia!stryke strategy is to fly under the radar as much as possible, and seeing as stryke didn't make it onto this list that's some pretty under-the-radar behavior and would like some posting from him

if stryke's town he usually fucks around a lot and i recall a few scum games of his where his strat was "people will forget i exist if i'm quiet enough"
stryke's also in college now though so idk if that applies here
 
i remember rnp previously commenting that a very common mafia!stryke strategy is to fly under the radar as much as possible, and seeing as stryke didn't make it onto this list that's some pretty under-the-radar behavior and would like some posting from him

if stryke's town he usually fucks around a lot and i recall a few scum games of his where his strat was "people will forget i exist if i'm quiet enough"
stryke's also in college now though so idk if that applies here
already in classes??? its mid-summer in the northern hemisphere :((((((( rest in peace
 
many things could be said about mf. "cringe." "old." "name is impossible to ISO." but lazy is not something i would call mf.
i don't think i called her lazy either, just speculating that she had trouble thinking of something to tie lilligant to the role. i understand where you're coming from but i can't give you flavour text that doesn't exist. like i said, my other three moves besides stun spore don't have any relevant flavour beyond repeating the role effect in in-universe terms. and again, if i were faking my flavorclaim (not even a roleclaim!), what earthly reason would i have to pick something so suspicion-inducing.

i know full well how tempting a good tunnel can be (*cough* acnh mafia...) but please...

anyway.

dude i posted that vote knowing that it would not make me look more towny like its a bullshit gutvote its inherently kinda suspicious but i don't particularly care? i have my gutread, all of rnp's reasoning either makes sense or isn't alignment indicative (so irrelevent) in my opinion, i am trying to Actively Play The Game
this is an... interesting pov. personally i wouldn't have said "bullshit gutvotes" were inherently suspicious at all... like we literally have next to no mech information to go on rn, all votes are based on gut feelings.

also, "trying too hard" is certainly a valid criticism (i have been getting the sense i'm the most active person... terminally online. rip) but you said you developed this read before RNP's push on me, and at that point the only mech thing i'd said yet was that i doubted your theory about RNP having a move affecting the winning theme. - that was before he confirmed it was true, obviously.

idk this doesn't really go any way towards making me feel any better about you. even if i didn't have to keep my vote on you for self pres i think i would anyway.
 
this is an... interesting pov. personally i wouldn't have said "bullshit gutvotes" were inherently suspicious at all... like we literally have next to no mech information to go on rn, all votes are based on gut feelings.

also, "trying too hard" is certainly a valid criticism (i have been getting the sense i'm the most active person... terminally online. rip) but you said you developed this read before RNP's push on me, and at that point the only mech thing i'd said yet was that i doubted your theory about RNP having a move affecting the winning theme. - that was before he confirmed it was true, obviously.
no it was before the mechanical stuff it wasnt even really because of the mechanical stuff this was like early game when i was like "hm who might it be" and literally just vibes based thought you. like i developed this with really no good reason thats why im calling it bullshit. had no real justification and i do think me posting a vote without real justification was suspicious in the long run (because thats what got yall to vote for me!! right???) honestly i feel like im being logicked around in circles,,,,,, is it suspicious i have little to no justification? is it not? whats goin on? but hey stalemate none of this makes me feel less suspicious of you either overall so Thats How It Goes I Guess (and i also cant retract my vote due to self pres! fun!)
 
at this point though i no longer feel like my vote is all that unjustified in my head i am more confident in it
 
Jack - not focusing much on the game?
this, yes, sorry -- as you are aware from other chats, Real Life Stuff has come up that has been impacting my ability to focus -- but trying my best

I used a +5 Appeal non-Clever move, which is my second highest-appeal move (the first-highest, of course, being my high-appeal no-op)

very interesting, thank you! if you didn't get penalised by the contest type then that means your move must've been Cute or Tough, then. updating the claims list...

Wisper - 5 moves. used Beauty N0
Jack - 5 moves, one high-appeal no-op, three related. used Cute or Tough N0
RNP - 5 moves, one high-appeal no-op, others unrelated (claimed them, ish, in post #125). used Clever N0
myuma - 5 moves. used Clever N0
Herbe - 5 moves, info that not all townies have 5 moves. didn't use Clever N0
Stryke - 5 moves. no info about N0 move. (@Stryke wanna give us a hint?)
qenya - 4 moves, all related. used Beauty or Cool N0
mewt - 5 moves, no high-appeal no-op, info that not all townies have 5 moves. didn't use Clever N0
sande - 4 moves, all related. used Beauty or Cool N0
ZM - no info (rip)


(btw what does no-op stand for? not sure if I missed somebody coining it or if it's existing slang I'm unfamiliar with)
yeah i remembered your Real Life Stuff shortly after hitting post there and felt like a real heel for bringing it up... sorry.

i coined no-op because i couldn't think what else to call it. after a no-op instruction in programming, a command that does nothing. feel free to suggest a different term if you don't like that one fsr i guess!
 
ugh one day i will hit preview before submitting to make sure my quotes aren't fucked up
 
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reposting because i think stryke won't get the ping if it's inside quote tags

Wisper - 5 moves. used Beauty N0
Jack - 5 moves, one high-appeal no-op, three related. used Cute or Tough N0
RNP - 5 moves, one high-appeal no-op, others unrelated (claimed them, ish, in post #125). used Clever N0
myuma - 5 moves. used Clever N0
Herbe - 5 moves, info that not all townies have 5 moves. didn't use Clever N0
Stryke - 5 moves. no info about N0 move. (@Stryke wanna give us a hint?)
qenya - 4 moves, all related. used Beauty or Cool N0
mewt - 5 moves, no high-appeal no-op, info that not all townies have 5 moves. didn't use Clever N0
sande - 4 moves, all related. used Beauty or Cool N0
ZM - no info (rip)
 
is it suspicious i have little to no justification? is it not? whats goin on?
i don't think it's suspicious to vote with weak justification on D1, but it is definitely suspicious to provide justification that doesn't make sense.

i'm not really trying to convince you here tbc (how would that even work. "oh shit you could be right actually, i think i might be mafia after all"). just trying to provide a running commentary on my thought process, since there's no benefit keeping it secret
 
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