Contest Pokémafia Spectacular! - Game Thread

[RNP]

not even by tutoring. not even by egg moves. not even hisuian lilligant.

 

[sanderidge]

my moves are fly, sandstorm, agility, and teeter dance, and according to asbdb pompom oricorio can learn all of these.

... i am sorry qenya but i would like an explanation

 

[sanderidge]

unsure if it's relevant but i looked through asbdb as a convenient searchable page of all the moves a pokemon can learn in gen 7 and out of the grass starters there is just one pokemon that can learn everything qenya listed - venusaur

 

[RNP]

my moves are fly, sandstorm, agility, and teeter dance, and according to asbdb pompom oricorio can learn all of these.

... i am sorry qenya but i would like an explanation

i appreciate the fervour and transparency but you don't have a vote lmao

 

[sanderidge]

HELP I FORGOT

 

[sanderidge]

me: i can handle my memory issues i can play mafia
me like three times within one day: guys i forgot about a game-defining mechanic

 

[haneko]

all of my moves can be learnt by Pidgey in-game, too. (Although one of them can only be learnt in an older game).

Herbe's lack of reasoning beyond gutread for his qenya vote seems a bit sus to me? It is early game and there's not much to go on so weak reads are understandable, but it's also something a maf might do if they want to look town and jump on a bandwagon. (Though the qenya wagon is still also in its early stages. So I guess my reasoning might be a bit of a reach).

@Herbe , do you have anything more to say on why you're voting qenya?

I would be looking at sanderidge a bit sus if it wasn't for the plausible deniability of forgetting/misreading things after not playing mafia for a while.

 

[qenya]

here's what i'm suspicious about:
all of my moves are named after actual moves a solrock could use. i assume mf did research on that since some of them are kind of stretches, when easily one could have just said "fuck it" and put whatever moves on whatever pokemon as long as they're the right type.

namely, i have Solar Beam, Confide, Incinerate, Morning Sun, and Wonder Room. which are all sorta explained, kinda halfway, kinda like the roles were made first and then assigned random moves solrock can learn.

qenya's pokemon, lilligant, can't learn frenzy plant OR body slam. two of the moves that qenya claimed.

oh shit you're RIGHT

i didn't even think about it but yeah frenzy plant is the grass-type starter tutor move isn't it

i can't tell you anything more i'm afraid, all i know is what's in my role PM. best guess is MF found it tricky to reconcile the role she'd already come up with with moves lilligant can actually learn so she had to cut corners. probably explains the lack of meaningful flavour text too. maybe i ought to have given her two options like some of you folks did. sorry MF.

i am mildly put out that you think i would be this bad at fakeclaiming but it's whatever

 

[qenya]

fwiw my role PM doesn't say anything about other people's movesets unlike herbe and mewt

 

[qenya]

claim summary for anyone having as much trouble as me keeping track of them

Wisper - no info
Jack - 5 moves, one high-appeal no-op, three related
RNP - 5 moves, one high-appeal no-op, others unrelated (claimed them, ish, in post #125)
myuma - no info
Herbe - 5 moves, info that not all townies have 5 moves
Stryke - 5 moves
qenya - 4 moves, all related
mewt - 5 moves, no high-appeal no-op, info that not all townies have 5 moves
sande - 4 moves, all related
ZM - no info (rip)

 

[mewtini]

here's what i'm suspicious about:
all of my moves are named after actual moves a solrock could use. i assume mf did research on that since some of them are kind of stretches, when easily one could have just said "fuck it" and put whatever moves on whatever pokemon as long as they're the right type.

namely, i have Solar Beam, Confide, Incinerate, Morning Sun, and Wonder Room. which are all sorta explained, kinda halfway, kinda like the roles were made first and then assigned random moves solrock can learn.

qenya's pokemon, lilligant, can't learn frenzy plant OR body slam. two of the moves that qenya claimed.

i still have reason to think that the moveset she claimed isn't AI
also if they're just move names/flavor i don't think that that's something mafia would even need to lie about

 

[qenya]

loosely ordered within tiers

townleans
RNP - even though i know he's barking up the wrong tree, obviously, he at least seems to be making a strong effort based on the limited information we have public so far
sande - the forgetfulness is EXTREMELY believable, but maybe not necessarily AI, perhaps mafia just aren't talking much (i just remembered some advice zori gave in a previous game about everyone constantly overestimating how much the mafia coordinate). more relevant i think is the sensible pontificating about RNP's tone. unless they're scumbuddies maybe but i'm disinclined to assume that see: previous
mewt maaaybe - hasn't said much or volunteered her own opinions but has been very helpful in reminding us how to play this goddamn game properly, which she didn't have to do. i don't think i disagree with any of the general strategy she's suggested even though I've been failing miserably to put it into practice so far

unknown quantities
myuma - not engaged much but i like her post above, feels appropriately solvy.
Wisper - has barely posted
Jack - has restricted himself to factual statements (some of which are unverifiable ones about his own role) and not really offered any opinions of his own beyond saying RNP's claim vaguely sounds plausible. not focusing much on the game? doing his best but a bit rusty? trying to slip under the radar? not sure

least confident
Herbe - i see myuma's point about the bandwagoning and they haven't really done anything to alleviate that. except that they were the first person to volunteer having received information about not all townies having 4 moves, which i know is true. but that's not really super AI (perhaps one townie and one mafia were told?) and my vote would probably go here if I had to cast it now. would like to hear the answer to myuma's question tho.

 

[qenya]

information about not all townies having 4 moves

er, *5 moves

 

[qenya]

i don't have enough thoughts to play keldeoquestions unfortunately but i do have one thing i'm curious about

@JackPK , @mewtini , you both earned 5 appeal too. did you pick Cleverness like RNP and myuma or did you just pick a high-appeal move like me

 

[Novae]

hi

5 moves, +5 appeal is my highest (i used it last night but it was beauty so rip)

speaking of 5 im going to be in a car for 5 hours then at a party at 5 so uh, slank cover for today lol

 

[qenya]

hmm if we're not going to get everyone on and caught up before EoD i may leave a vote on Herbe for now just in case the margins are tight

would be embarrassing to die thru apathy

 

[mewtini]

i don't have enough thoughts to play keldeoquestions unfortunately but i do have one thing i'm curious about

@JackPK , @mewtini , you both earned 5 appeal too. did you pick Cleverness like RNP and myuma or did you just pick a high-appeal move like me

i didn’t use a clever move

 

[haneko]

I have 5 moves, for the record

 

[haneko]

I'm leaning Herbe and leaving it there since idk if I'll be here @ EOD either lol

 

[JackPK]

Jack - not focusing much on the game?

this, yes, sorry -- as you are aware from other chats, Real Life Stuff has come up that has been impacting my ability to focus -- but trying my best

@JackPK , @mewtini , you both earned 5 appeal too. did you pick Cleverness like RNP and myuma or did you just pick a high-appeal move like me

I used a +5 Appeal non-Clever move, which is my second highest-appeal move (the first-highest, of course, being my high-appeal no-op)

(btw what does no-op stand for? not sure if I missed somebody coining it or if it's existing slang I'm unfamiliar with)