Contest Pokémafia Spectacular! - Game Thread

[JackPK]

i don't buy herbe's explanation of RNP's ability - if he earned 9 points then the move he used must be worth 7 points without the Popular Contest bonus. far too overpowered in combination with the effect. at least i know i don't have anything anywhere near that good.

more likely I think is that he relied on reverse psychology to get other people to use Clever moves because his highest-scoring move happened to be Clever

that's not really AI though that's just RNP

i believe i have the "borderline mechanically useless but equipped to fiend appeal like nobody else" considering my coolness move is Solar Beam which is 8 appeal raw not including popularity

and has no other effect

re: all of this: I am inclined to gutread this as towny because I also have my highest-scoring move being 8 appeal raw with no other effect. but RNP, I guess this must mean you have some kind of move that gave you a big bonus (the Spectacular Talent, presumably) as a result of everyone else not using Clever? and you must have been explicitly told about this bonus?

just curious and slightly wondering bc my moves don't say anything explicitly using the words Spectacular Talent nor describing a bonus like that for me. entirely possible it's just a matter of different roles tho.

 

[RNP]

oh herbe was 90% right (i'm assuming Spectacular Talent just describes the best move each night)

Wonder Room (Cleverness) (+7 Appeal) (this isn't copy pasted mf)
Designate a contest type. That type forcibly becomes the Popular Type this night.

i was fuckin' with y'all

 

[RNP]

on topic: i've been townreading rnp since d0 because he's been astonishingly not... inflammatory and pretty cooperative?

on the other hand it's entirely possible that this is just a year's worth of regular human change lmao so maybe this doesn't mean anything.

yeah... yeah... yeah.

 

[RNP]

that rnp was not one of the better rnp's.

 

[RNP]

oh herbe was 90% right (i'm assuming Spectacular Talent just describes the best move each night)

Wonder Room (Cleverness) (+7 Appeal) (this isn't copy pasted mf)
Designate a contest type. That type forcibly becomes the Popular Type this night.

i was fuckin' with y'all

mf gave me a +8 and a +7 (+popularity) move and not much else useful. an investigation move that only works if the party tells the truth about their appeal points and a roleblock that only works if it matches the popular type. most useful thing is a poisoner role... that also gives the target +5 appeal, and thus probably 3 votes

 

[RNP]

i'm assuming everyone else has a move for each type?

 

[sanderidge]

i also have a move for each type! since we can't use the same type twice in a row i think it would be kind of fucked if everyone didn't have at least two options?

 

[JackPK]

I also have a move for each type.

 

[Herbe]

how the hell yall got +8 appeal moves >:/ i max at 5

also theres a chance that some people might not have all the appeal types? based on some wording in my role. but like its vagueworded enough that it might just be the way MF writes these things. just saying not to rule it out

 

[mewtini]

idk if it’s good or bad that i absolutely do not care that much about this rnp thing right now, mostly because i think it isn’t AI

on topic: i've been townreading rnp since d0 because he's been astonishingly not... inflammatory and pretty cooperative? offering ideas on his own in response to others' thoughts (like when he said something along the lines of "$20 says mafia has an ability to kill whoever chose Beauty", and offering info about his moves just now... which, tbf, are the only two times this happens in thread, but there are only six pages so far, so maybe it still means something...?) isn't something that mafia rnp does, i think - i reread both hamilton mafia and knives alley recently, and there's a huge difference in helpfulness/freely offered info between them.

on the other hand it's entirely possible that this is just a year's worth of regular human change lmao so maybe this doesn't mean anything. also guys posting reads is really scary i spent this entire post thinking "this is going to look absolutely fucking awful for me if he turns out to be mafia"

i pretty much echo this entire post. it’s what made me gutread him as more towny than normal, but it also feels like a kind of shitty/mean read because it’s like … maybe this is just him being a regular person and i’m not so sure that rnp being inflammatory = mafia and him being cooperative = town lol. maybe he’s just vibing. Idfk

also in re the ending of that post: yeah it’s terrifying LMAO

 

[mewtini]

wait y’all are out here with high appeal moves?

 

[mewtini]

oh i just saw that jack said that that +8 move had no other effect but the appeal gain so that makes some more sense now

 

[Stryke]

It's been a hot minute (read: about a year) since we've last played tcodfia. A year is a decently long enough time for things to change-- I'd consider myself a pretty different person than I was last year. I'm not saying town!RNP isn't a possibility, but I don't know how much stock I'd put in comparing playstyles in previous games after a hiatus like this (well, for forum mafia anyway... I wouldn't know about any games y'all might've participated in together outside of here). I'm keeping an open mind for now, but the fact that he's been so forthcoming about all of his moves is giving me a townlean on him.

Of course, if this is all actually part of mafia!RNPs ploy to intentionally craft an entirely new playstyle to successfully pocket the entire town, then consider me bamboozled and impressed

 

[mewtini]

lol stryke i was just about to ask you to read rnp for me

 

[sanderidge]

discord nitro got me so bad. not having custom emojis to use while i type is fucking me up so much. how do i express my feelings now

me, carefully pasting in the url of the emoji i want to use here: anyway the whole read situation has me like this:

but yeah agree, slight/careful/not very sure townlean is where i'm at.

also re: moves, my highest appeal move is +7, but i think it's quite risky and it makes sense to me for there to be at least some payoff for it. my other moves are much lower (me wailing at the bottom of the appeal ladder with 2 rn)

 

[haneko]

i'm assuming everyone else has a move for each type?

Yep, I've got one for each type as well.

how the hell yall got +8 appeal moves >:/ i max at 5

I'm in the same boat...the max any of mine get is +4 appeal. I chose the cleverness move I had and ended up with +6. Which I know is going against what rnp said, but I didn't totally trust rnp; I couldn't tell if their comment was a joke or a threat.

 

[qenya]

interesting

I do not have a move for each type - i'm missing one - and none of my moves are no-ops (although some are, uh... questionably useful)

i wonder why the difference. four people have said the opposite and i think four is probably too many mafia so it's probably not AI...?

 

[qenya]

i have no particular thoughts on RNP's tone but i am confused by the deadpanness. are you saying the move you used n0 did actually let you manually override the popular type and joking about it being a no-op, or the other way around

 

[RNP]

qenya

 

[qenya]

oh herbe was 90% right (i'm assuming Spectacular Talent just describes the best move each night)

Wonder Room (Cleverness) (+7 Appeal) (this isn't copy pasted mf)
Designate a contest type. That type forcibly becomes the Popular Type this night.

i was fuckin' with y'all

mf gave me a +8 and a +7 (+popularity) move and not much else useful. an investigation move that only works if the party tells the truth about their appeal points and a roleblock that only works if it matches the popular type. most useful thing is a poisoner role... that also gives the target +5 appeal, and thus probably 3 votes

oh i understand now. they're two different moves. sorry, slow on the uptake

i am surprised though because my moves do share a consistent theme despite having different effects. whereas these don't seem to

curious which applies to other people