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Egypt Protests

Phantom

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I know I wish that I could say it can't get worse, but it really could, thing is I was completely unaware of their issues before this protest. Again, this is insane.
 
On the one hand, Hosni Mubarak is a complete and total dick and should be removed as soon as possible.

On the other, the protesters are largely unorganized and this could end in anarchy, or worse, a repeat of Iranian protests.
 
I get the impression that a lot of the apparent problems with the protesters are mostly Mubarak's propaganda. And plants.
 
The best part isn't that they succeeded; the best part is that their success is inspiring the peoples of other dictatorships.
 
I'm glad the Egyptians won their War of Independence, without a full-scale military conflict lasting a few years.
 
Here is the question and it goes back to the Enlightenment and the American Revolution: Can man rule himself?

Can democracy exist in the Middle East?

I hope so, but there is a bit of a poor track record.

1978-1979: Iran; started just like Egypt and played out just like Egypt. Difference is that Islamic radicals, specifically under Khomeini took over and we have what we have now.

2006: Gaza; Israel allows democratic voting in Gaza. Hamas wins a surprise victory...this causes in-fighting with the other Palestinian faction in Gaza. After this, Hamas gained a de facto control of the Gaza Strip and is a continued threat to the national security of Israel.

Regardless of your feelings on Israel, we see here two examples of "democracy" playing out and meeting negative ends. I, as a Constitutional conservative, believe in the voice of the people; therefore, if the Muslim Brotherhood is the legitimate heir to the throne of Egypt by the will of the people - so be it. But, the Brotherhood shouldn't be given a free-pass due to their harsh ideologies, beliefs about the West and so forth.

It is one thing to win by the voice of the people; it is quite another to "never waste a crisis".
 
Uh-oh people starting fights in serious business never leads to good.

But while i'm here, this video.] I'm going to Harvard London just to take a class with Niall Ferguson.
 
Also, no fight has begun. I think we can all agree that democracy is the best path for Egypt; I am just skeptical on how it will play out. I believe it is a far more rocky road than the media makes it appear.
 
Many of the revolutions did end in more democratic regimes. The places where Islam took over are pretty much the really poor countries. The richer the general population, the more secular the outlook tends to be.
 
Tarvos said:
Many of the revolutions did end in more democratic regimes. The places where Islam took over are pretty much the really poor countries. The richer the general population, the more secular the outlook tends to be.
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You're using this to say that Egypt likely /won't/ become an islamic country?
 
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