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Forum Revival TV Tropes Mafia Revival - D7

The hypothesis that Eifie had some way to check alignment in addition to vigging is interesting! Being able to inspect *or* kill would be hella powerful, as would your kills not working if you happened to target non-mafia, but if Eifie was the vig variant that dies if they kill an innocent player, that would definitely explain why she hadn't shot anyone yet despite bringing up the possibility.

mewtini said:
also in this case i think that, barring More Info from coming out (knock on mfing wood), we're going to have to decide who we want to gamble on between mawile and MF or decide who was more likely to be targeted by a redirector
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At this point I'm very much leaning towards Mawile, simply because the bit with Stryke yesterday threw a lot of doubt on them to me. This isn't to let MF off the hook, but I feel like untangling this stuff with Mawile/Herbe is higher priority than dealing with her atm.

kyeugh said:
oh, maybe. i don’t remember the details of their claim. can they communicate out of thread?
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So they say.
 
also another thing. im just extrapolating a bit from what herbe said
Herbe said:
Hardclaim Lovers with Mawile.
My role is basically that whoever targeted me N0 (or whoever targeted me first) got stuck in my honeypot and became my lover.
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which kinda. i think it makes it very likely that it was an attempted kill or something (taking existing suspicions and discussion into consideration). F
 
kyeugh said:
i’m not sure i understand this.
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From what I see on MafiaScum, Tragic Lovers’s win condition is leaving only both alive. At some point, they have to push the town to kill the rest of the mafia – and that must happen before mafia becomes a majority, otherwise mafia wins and they lose.
 
kyeugh said:
i’m not sure i understand this.
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In the last TVTropes Mafia, Mawile was mafia and died literally with a knife in the back, i.e. backstabbed. One of the other mafia claimed to have killed them. It was also plausible that one of the verified vigilantes, who died the same night, killed Mawile. The game never finished, so we never found out what was actually up with that.

rari_teh said:
Only if somebody here Sees Dead People
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also wat
 
rari_teh said:
From what I see on MafiaScum, Tragic Lovers’s win condition is leaving only both alive. At some point, they have to push the town to kill the rest of the mafia – and that must happen before mafia becomes a majority, otherwise mafia wins and they lose.
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i don’t see why this suggests they’d kill mawile. they’d have to know they were tragic lovers.
 
kyeugh said:
i don’t see why this suggests they’d kill mawile. they’d have to know they were tragic lovers.
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with mawile's intel the pair now has the advantage of knowing what killing order to go in though, doesn't it? like i said earlier i don't think it matters yet/points to an immediate mafia kill of mawile (in the perfect world where town doesn't lynch or complicate anything) but it would eventually since they'd have to get rid of herbe, and herbe's influence? idk if that makes sense
 
sorry i'm like pathetically conflicted about having to also kill off herbe in light of this but i'm now pretty sure that this is the scenario rn
Negrek said:
At this point I'm very much leaning towards Mawile, simply because the bit with Stryke yesterday threw a lot of doubt on them to me. This isn't to let MF off the hook, but I feel like untangling this stuff with Mawile/Herbe is higher priority than dealing with her atm.
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not that i disagree but could you explain this a bit more?
 
rari_teh said:
Well, they claimed lovers yesterday. If Herbe isn’t scum, wouldn’t tragic lovers be the only possibility?
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no. they could just be normal lovers of opposite alignments. in that situation scum still doesn’t want to kill herbe because a single town death isn’t worth one of their own.
 
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