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Forum Revival TV Tropes Mafia Revival - D7
- Thread starter Butterfree
- Start date
mewtini
sorry guys, don’t lose
- Pronoun
- she/her
herbe uses he/him!
i don't feel as strongly about seri as you do but i feel good enough to go with flora before seri for sure. i doubt much will change on either front
Vipera Magnifica
Aquatic Artiste
- Pronoun
- he/him
At the risk of making myself look scum, I thought you tagged me first @Ottercopter? Am I missing something, or is there another reason you think the swap fail was because of kyeugh?
Also I don't fully understand why you are 100% positive about multiquote swap mechanics now when before you seemed like you weren't sure how it would resolve and you wanted to test it out. Did Butterfree give you more information or something? I want to pursue this avenue further but I'm a little wary about lynching someone I've had a fairly solid townread on if there's no information on why the swap failed.
Mist1422 definitely seems like the safest lynch for today, but after that... damn... I still have my suspicions about Herbe now that we know Mawile was probably in-group mafia? Not that I'm fully convinced Herbe is scum, but can we at least try swapping with Herbe tonight to see if it sticks? Something about the way he lovers claimed with Mawile to throw us off the lynch wagon and backtracked as soon as it was evident Mawile was going to die just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Sorry if I'm wrong, Herbe, but I just think we should look into that.
mewtini
sorry guys, don’t lose
- Pronoun
- she/her
i think it's that when she first batch-quoted to swap, skylar was at the top of the list. the post you quoted came later
yeah this is how i feel as well
in re: herbe, i'm def relaxing my "he's 3p!!!" grip a little now that mawile has been revealed to be ingroup/there is something weird there. on the other hand, if herbe were mafia, what incentive would he have had to be as solvey as he was pre-lovers claim? (then again maybe that's a moot point, given that everything pre-mawile was a mislynch. haha ...)
i just can't get over the weird mawile/herbe split about mawile feeling weird that herbe was sheeping me, or w/e - if they're w/w then like. idk. Why. maybe i'm fixated on that because it involved my name, but it was also the only vaguely-AI interaction seen between the two of them i think
mewtini
sorry guys, don’t lose
- Pronoun
- she/her
oh, i'm not sure what backtrack you're referring to, though. is it when he said he wouldn't die if mawile did?
Vipera Magnifica
Aquatic Artiste
- Pronoun
- he/him
Ah
Yeah. I can see it being like a desperation thing just to keep Mawile alive if he really is like a Guardian Angel kinda role, but I don't feel good about just accepting that at face value with the new information that's been presented. It doesn't hurt to try a swap tonight at least? It's not like we're hard pressed to pick a lynch target for today.
Ottercopter
Oh god why
- Pronoun
- she
When I asked, she told me enough that I knew how the chain was theoretically supposed to move. Mewtini, that was also what I was trying to imply when I was talking about knowing how the role worked. Just trying to get rid of any doubts that maybe I mixed up who I first targetted or something, not so much re-establish credibility that I'm trustworthy or something.
I don't wanna give away more of the mechanics because I'm gonna have to try swapping again tonight. And as our last doctor, there's pretty good grounds to include VM somewhere in that chain, so the more ambiguous it is where you get swapped, the better? I think? I dunno, this is kinda the heaviest thing on my mind right now. Not that I'm not paying attention to the rest of the discussion, of course.
mewtini
sorry guys, don’t lose
- Pronoun
- she/her
yeah, i agree!
kyeugh
onion witch
- Pronoun
- she/her
um, maybe. i wouldn't have expected it to make my role unswappable, but given that we know it's unswappable, i guess it would make sense? idk.
i can roleclaim if you guys really want me to but don't really see any sense in doing that right now tbh.
Mr. Ultracool
Blasts off at the speed of light!
- Pronoun
- he
So, would you be willing to divulge what "it" is? If not, I'd understand, too.
mewtini
sorry guys, don’t lose
- Pronoun
- she/her
omfg
Herbe
the dave of guy
- Pronoun
- xe/xem (plural)
I'm interested in this interpretation, @Seshas . Are you saying that if kyeugh is inno, Vipera is maf, and vice versa? and if serimachi is inno, flora is maf, etc?
Also, hm. Best case, town has 2 lynches to win, worst case, 4? What does that look like on D9, D10, etc? when is lylo?
Zori
nya~
- Pronoun
- she/her
Basically
I'm feeling like there's at least one mafia who's actually paying attention to the game, and it's between [Vipera/Emmy/maaaaaybe kyeugh]
I feel like it's very unlikely that Vipera and kyeugh are ever scum together
and that just left one mafia in the pool of people who weren't paying attention to the game
I'm feeling like there's at least one mafia who's actually paying attention to the game, and it's between [Vipera/Emmy/maaaaaybe kyeugh]
I feel like it's very unlikely that Vipera and kyeugh are ever scum together
and that just left one mafia in the pool of people who weren't paying attention to the game
mewtini
sorry guys, don’t lose
- Pronoun
- she/her
imo the brief drama with the nanobot thing doesn't make sense if they're w/w
Panini
The Upper Crust
- Pronoun
- she
I think my opinions haven't changed a ton but line up loosely with what Seshas has been saying? Apart from I feel messy about Emmy vs Serimachi rankings.
Re: Otter/kyeugh stuff, I kind of just want to give that the space to play out more fully. Even with the point about previously being able to swap around a 3P, I don't think it's out of the question that there might still be non-mafia roles that Butterfree would be unable to swap for anyway? I feel like she's been playing her town game in basically all other respects, so I feel like. Similar hesitations to mewtini.
I'm also not sure what the Herbe test proposed is supposed to prove - if Herbe's role right now is the kind of blank slate he's proposed it to be presumably without win con (?) I don't think that's very applicable to the situation beyond what's already been done.
Wondering if it's worth going back over VM/Stryke/koko situation now that we have flips although I guess VM would either way be assuming there that he's actually dealing with two legit claims since koko was outgroup. I think the overarching point about there probably being an active player (or at least one that's reading) is fairly cogent though.
bloop Mist1422
tbf Emmy kinda has a vague mechread in the sense that she had MI info that we saw play out during the game- I suppose it's plausible that the mafia had knowledge of the magic/nanobots dichtonomy but I also feel like this thing you said about serimachi is equally applicable to Emmy to a degree?
I do think out of mech Emmy's been mostly just popping in with snippets here and there, so agree there's not a lot to decisively town-read by, I just kinda think she still has more going for her than seri by a ways.
Re: Otter/kyeugh stuff, I kind of just want to give that the space to play out more fully. Even with the point about previously being able to swap around a 3P, I don't think it's out of the question that there might still be non-mafia roles that Butterfree would be unable to swap for anyway? I feel like she's been playing her town game in basically all other respects, so I feel like. Similar hesitations to mewtini.
I'm also not sure what the Herbe test proposed is supposed to prove - if Herbe's role right now is the kind of blank slate he's proposed it to be presumably without win con (?) I don't think that's very applicable to the situation beyond what's already been done.
Wondering if it's worth going back over VM/Stryke/koko situation now that we have flips although I guess VM would either way be assuming there that he's actually dealing with two legit claims since koko was outgroup. I think the overarching point about there probably being an active player (or at least one that's reading) is fairly cogent though.
bloop Mist1422