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Gym Leader Choice Pokémafia 2 - Game Thread

RedneckPhoenix said:
if i were worried about an active alien i would simply not lynch them
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well, i mean, so would i ig. like, our wincon is to eliminate mafia, not. 3ps. and it’s also on the best interest of the mafia to prevent an alien win.
but she specifically said that it would be nice if the vig took care of him, so. if she’s town it checks out ig?
 
rari_teh said:
and it’s also on the best interest of the mafia to prevent an alien win.
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i say this meaning that. the mafia would probably take care of him anyway because a) an alien win incurs in a mafia loss and b) apparently mf’s mafia wincons tend to be achieve parity/majority of the population in general, not 1:1 ratio with town
 
rari_teh said:
i’m going to insist on this, what few reasons are you referring to? because i can’t think of a single town-sided reason to do so
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i wrote like a paragraph about it immediately after the line you quoted 😅
rari_teh said:
i really don’t see how one’s role within the same alignment would change how much information one requests from the others, but whatever ig.
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that’s not really what i’m saying. i was saying that their posts don’t look exactly like they did in tvt because they necessarily can’t. i imagine they’re asking for information more because like 90% of the mechanical discussion to be had in the game so far has been based on claim ambiguities?
rari_teh said:
if she’s mafia as i’m inclined to believe, she’s pretty much obligating the vig to out themself and counterclaim.

i think the real vigilante is laying among us and did not want to out themself.
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this doesn’t make sense given that she’s claimed joat as jack says, but even if she was claiming vig this would still be a nonsensical trade for the mafia to make. reads more like you’re rationalizing ad hoc to suit your read here.

i really just, don’t see any reason to particularly doubt this claim unless you already have reason to believe negrek is scum, and the provided reasons are really flimsy and circular. even if you suspect it’s fake, there’s no real grounds to assume that’s the truth with any degree of confidence.

we’re having a hard time believing these conclusions are being arrived at organically. they feel much more like they’re constructed as a means to an end than they feel like good faith interpretations of the events.

rari_teh said:
well, i mean, so would i ig. like, our wincon is to eliminate mafia, not. 3ps. and it’s also on the best interest of the mafia to prevent an alien win.
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our goal is to win, which is incompatible with an alien victory, so if you didnt have any solid scum leads (which negrek said she didn’t), it’s probably as good a shot as any tbh.
-q
 
RedneckPhoenix said:
if hypothetically negrek were to be a joat would one not

watch the alien whom it is in the mafia's direct interest to kill
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that assumes Negrek is the kind of JOAT that has a watcher power (there are many JOAT variants and it's not worth trying to guess which one Negrek is -- it only helps mafia to publicize which powers she has and which powers she doesn't have)
 
bruh moment said:
RedneckPhoenix said:
why would you make a watcherless joat. it's such a common role
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bruh, we don't have that info. besides i've seen trackers on joats way more often
also as the last joat in tcodf meta (iirc) i didn't have a watcher ability. this is kind of a weird train of thought
-m
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also, regardless of everything, imo it matters way more that negrek herself had said something incredibly consistent with her night action than what you think ideal play would have been in the event that she even has that ability
-m
 
bruh moment said:
i wrote like a paragraph about it immediately after the line you quoted 😅
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you mean this?
bruh moment said:
the only way his role could have possibly been of use at that point is if someone else figured out a way to make it useful and convinced him to follow that plan, which is exactly what negrek was trying to do.
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because that doesn’t implicate in. trying to get more information, at least in my head it does not. but w/e ig

bruh moment said:
i really just, don’t see any reason to particularly doubt this claim unless you already have reason to believe negrek is scum, and the provided reasons are really flimsy and circular. even if you suspect it’s fake, there’s no real grounds to assume that’s the truth with any degree of confidence.
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i have a further reason i do not want to elaborate upon.
 
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