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Is having children selfish?

Perhaps Slartibartfast should take a Pascal's Wager on global warming.
 
i think that in the case of the "OctoMom", then yes, having kids IS selfish, but on any other natural, innocent case, then no. not at all.
 
I'm pretty sure Octomom has whatever that disorder is that makes people compulsively hoard cats. Only with babies.
 
oh god guys did you see? octomom got asked out at the grocery store haha this was on the news when they could have been talking about something interesting. sadly, nobody cares about octocrap. :(

also, obsessive compulsive disorder?
 
as far as i am aware ocd does not make people hoard cats or children, dewgong
 
oh god guys did you see? octomom got asked out at the grocery store haha this was on the news when they could have been talking about something interesting. sadly, nobody cares about octocrap. :(

also, obsessive compulsive disorder?

The reason people brought up her is because that's an example of having kids for a selfish reason. Apparently the ability to pump yourself full of fertility drugs and reproduce LIKE ANY OTHER FUCKING WOMAN ON THE PLANET is enough to get you rich and famous thanks to that show on TLC no one gives a shit about. It's exploiting children to get money.

Also, I think it's just called "batshit crazy"
 
I understand your anger towards her, but there are lots of women who can only have (normal amounts of) children using fertility treatment - especially older women, who tend to be the ones who've waited 'till they're financially secure enough to raise their kids properly.
 
I have nothing against fertility treatments and understand that they do have a use. It's the women who abuse them that get on my nerves. Or rather, women who simply happen to have a multiple birth from them and begin to exploit that for money and fame even though the only talent they have is a functioning uterus. Either way, it's bullshit.
 
The difference is, Suleman didn't happen to have multiples. Multiples were the whole point. Nobody emplants that many embryos.
 
The difference is, Suleman didn't happen to have multiples. Multiples were the whole point. Nobody emplants that many embryos.

I was talking about both Suleman and Kate from that TLC show, who didn't intend to have multiples but took advantage of them anyway. Both fall under the same general principle.
 
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