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Life after Death?
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Once you realise that time quite literally started with the Big Bang, but that there was something present before that too, it's not too big of a conundrum. If we've got something before time, eternal existence is nothing. eta: plus at that point our understanding of the term "eternal" is really quite arbitrary.
jimmyboyacreman
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have many of them tried? religion can be very satisfying...
...less likely to randomly get depressed too...
more importantly though:
How would (b) solve it? are you saying that some of this eternal matter was converted into energy? if this did happen, isn't the causeless existence of this eternal matter just as improbable as the causeless existence of the light that was the big bang?
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Most atheists had christianism forced into them at childhood.
Most atheists chose between being religious or not.
If most atheists didn't turn back on their decision, it's for a reason, isn't it?
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having christianity "forced into [you]" isn't quite the same as understanding and believing it
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give me a rational reason to be a christian
how does one "understand and believe" christianity
there is zero reason to
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the only real reason is that when you do it feels right
here's my reasoning:
God is real -> Live to his will -> better chance of eternal happiness
however, the other possibility:
God doesn't exist -> Live in contented Christianity -> Die and cease to exist (along with the rest of humanity)
...either way you're happy
I don't think that atheists have a bad chance of getting ino heaven, though, as long as they can accept which things that they did were wrong (and i'm not saying that they always do more things wrong)
...I just realised that I contradicted myself there... ah well...
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... I have absolutely no clue what you're on about. But.
Either you have something from nothing, or an eternal something. The latter sounds a lot more convincing, since something existed before the Big Bang, too.
eta: hahaha pascal's wager. that is not going to convince anyone. it is deeply flawed in assuming that whichever religion you are talking about is the true one.
makes sense.
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What ideas, specifically? A lot of theories are backed up by mathematics, mostly. I don't think the scientific community would dare advocate a theory if it wasn't backed up by math, at least.
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Where does it say that? Give me a reference and I may agree with what you are saying. Don't knock people you don't know. eg. disciples.
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And then there's the well-known thing about why won't God stop evil.
To quote off the top of my head:
"Is he willing, but not capable? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he capable, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both capable and willing? Then why won't he stop evil?
Is he not capable nor willing? Then why call him God?"