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Pokémon Mafia: Arceus - Game Thread

qenya said:
As soon as she touches the water, she explodes in a huge gout of flame and heat, evidently covered with some highly toxic or flammable substance.
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actually how do we know this wasnt the poisoner

like i feel like it's very unlikely that the role is still alive

~w
 
my hunch is that diamond clan had an arsonist and a poisoner to go along with the whole "time is important" thing

plus sabi doesn't have any poison pokemon but other diamond wardens like mai and arezu Do
 
mai's main pokemon is a munchlax i don't remember arezu's

melli uses a skuntank though?

~w
 
i do want to point out though

there is literally 0 reason i would willingly pick melli as my flavor

which i think is a reasonable point

~w
 
arezu's lilligant has poison jab, mai's rematch has a crobat and a weavile with poison jab
 
plus the flavor could always be "the berries munchlax likes so much are poisonous to humans"
 
sabi has a magmortar, and, more to the point, a braviary with giant fucking psychic flames coming out of its head
 
either im being clowned on or jack is just clever about lying

@Herbe do you mind explaining exactly how your role works

~w
 
lolfoxes said:
also like, why are you assuming ZM wasn't the poisoner? @Herbe

i don't think haneko would have been targeted by a non-town in that situation

~w
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why not? i really believe haneko was poisoned from flavor and i don't see how a poisoner is gonna be town aligned
and like why do i need to assume ZM /was/ the poisoner???? zm flipped town yeah ?? i just don't see poisoner town thats all. weird defenses here

lolfoxes said:
qenya said:
As soon as she touches the water, she explodes in a huge gout of flame and heat, evidently covered with some highly toxic or flammable substance.
Click to expand...
actually how do we know this wasnt the poisoner

like i feel like it's very unlikely that the role is still alive

~w
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/covered/ with it seems very unlikely to be the role that /controls/ it. like why would a poisoner be slathered in their own poison. i still think that that's unrelated to the poisoner scenario although it might be somehow - butterfree was a daykill right, so would there have been time for her to have been poisoned previous to that but it not have been kicked in yet? i just don't think that flavor suggests controller rather than victim


lolfoxes said:
@Herbe do you mind explaining exactly how your role works
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i target someone to be roleblocked. that night they are roleblocked
 
all the holes in the persuasions here are making me increasingly confident about the foxes vote today and the jacksolve tomorrow/tonight lmao
 
Herbe said:
lolfoxes said:
also like, why are you assuming ZM wasn't the poisoner? @Herbe

i don't think haneko would have been targeted by a non-town in that situation

~w
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why not? i really believe haneko was poisoned from flavor and i don't see how a poisoner is gonna be town aligned
and like why do i need to assume ZM /was/ the poisoner???? zm flipped town yeah ?? i just don't see poisoner town thats all. weird defenses here

lolfoxes said:
qenya said:
As soon as she touches the water, she explodes in a huge gout of flame and heat, evidently covered with some highly toxic or flammable substance.
Click to expand...
actually how do we know this wasnt the poisoner

like i feel like it's very unlikely that the role is still alive

~w
Click to expand...
/covered/ with it seems very unlikely to be the role that /controls/ it. like why would a poisoner be slathered in their own poison. i still think that that's unrelated to the poisoner scenario although it might be somehow - butterfree was a daykill right, so would there have been time for her to have been poisoned previous to that but it not have been kicked in yet? i just don't think that flavor suggests controller rather than victim


lolfoxes said:
@Herbe do you mind explaining exactly how your role works
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i target someone to be roleblocked. that night they are roleblocked
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second quote rest won’t work
considered that too but it doesn’t line up with haneko getting poisoned

~w
 
okay summarizing this (mostly eifie's thoughts but they make sense to me)

a flavor check confirms that zm was sanqua and his partner pokemon was bidoof, which makes jack's claim impossible
it's most likely that butterfree was the one that killed haneko after her death (for reasons i do not understand), if you consider the flavor of her disappearing instantly along with the toxin stuff, and the fact that it's been essentially proven that there isnt a poisoner alive (unless theres 2 mafia of different factions or mafia + self aligned 3p in which case this game is kinda uh)

ergo jack is mafia and we are a red herring being set up

@RedneckPhoenix pinging you for this since your vote being double means you're the one we need to convince

~w
 
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