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Pre-Pokeball Shiny

Hiikaru

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My sister started her Heart Gold game, and the very first Pokemon she saw was a shiny Pidgey. In my Soul Silver game, shiny Weedle wasn't the first, but it was still before I had Pokeballs. My mom says she's seen people complain about seeing shinies in the very beginning.

We're planning to use Action Replay to get those two, like, as soon as we can figure out how to use it. I think it's fair, since we did see the shiny Pokemon, also, it's not like shinies really effect gameplay, anyway, right?

What I'm wondering is: Is the game programmed to do this to be frustrating, or are we just super unlucky?
 
Just unlucky. The game is programmed to allow Shinies anywhere and at anytime, but you just got the short end of the stick. TBH, I would do the same thing in your situation, because the games should be programmed so that things like this wouldn't happen.
 
Agh, I agree wholeheartedly. The first shiny (aside from Gyarados, of course) I found was a Wurmple, and I just stared at it for several minutes before finally running, since I couldn't bring myself to knock out the thing. You should've heard me rant to my brother after that incident.
 
Barring the Rage Gyarados, I have never had a shiny encounter in my life. I've been playing ever since G/S/C.

Except in ROMs but I'm sure they raise the encounter rate there.
 
I've only ever gotten two random-encounter shinies, and one was in the original Silver version, like, the 3rd encounter AFTER I got my Pokeballs.
 
Supposedly my sister could use Action Replay on a game cartridge now, waiting for her to figure out how to do it on a ROM. I like my game, I don't want to mess it up because she typoes the code.

Argh, at least I'm not alone, I guess.

I ran away from my shiny, too. Same reason, plus, might as well figure out if you really can't run away from a shiny like everyone is always saying. Turns out you can.

like, the 3rd encounter AFTER I got my Pokeballs.

Did you catch it?

Except in ROMs but I'm sure they raise the encounter rate there.

Why would they? O_o The game developers don't give out ROMs and wouldn't have any reason to do that anyway, and the people who take ROMs from games have absolutely no reason to go in and rewrite the code to random games just to make a few kids who happen to download it happy. It would take time and energy on the part of either group for little to no incentive.
 
Why would they? O_o The game developers don't give out ROMs and wouldn't have any reason to do that anyway, and the people who take ROMs from games have absolutely no reason to go in and rewrite the code to random games just to make a few kids who happen to download it happy. It would take time and energy on the part of either group for little to no incentive.

I've seen a hack of Emerald whose only purpose was to make all 386 Pokémon available in the game (it was aptly called Emerald 386), and one of FireRed where all Pokémon are available (I think), people are far tougher and the starters are replaced with Smoochum, Magby and Elekid. In addition, a few Pokémon (like Spinda, Slugma and maybe Sunkern) had their stats raised, and the three aforementioned new starters evolve ten levels earlier. Pokémon also get several new moves they wouldn't normally have (like Psycho Boost on Jynx), and a few Pokémon have D/P sprites in battle.

I think that pretty much answers your questions.
 
This only happened to me once, I found a Wurmple at the beginning of one of my Sapphire replays.

I think I have unusually high luck with Shinies, as I've come accross quite a few in my time of playing. The only one in HG/SS so far is a Caterpie from the bug catching contest, but I have quite a few more in my Diamond.
 
Hiikaru said:
Did you catch it?

Yes I did, it was a shiny Kakuna and I, in all my creativity, named it "GREENY." It was a staple of my team but then the internal battery died and it was lost.
 
I've seen a hack of Emerald whose only purpose was to make all 386 Pokémon available in the game (it was aptly called Emerald 386), and one of FireRed where all Pokémon are available (I think), people are far tougher and the starters are replaced with Smoochum, Magby and Elekid. In addition, a few Pokémon (like Spinda, Slugma and maybe Sunkern) had their stats raised, and the three aforementioned new starters evolve ten levels earlier. Pokémon also get several new moves they wouldn't normally have (like Psycho Boost on Jynx), and a few Pokémon have D/P sprites in battle.

I think that pretty much answers your questions.

Um, I don't know what that really has to do with it, actually. Grimdour might have to confirm this, but I assumed he was talking about regular, you know, ROMs, that you download when you don't have the game, not random hacked cartridges. Since people usually mean ROMs when they say ROMs. Which is why I specifically mentioned the group that makes the games and the group that puts up ROMs for people who don't have the money to buy the games to download. The latter of which gives them out for free along with thousands of other games that I doubt they have the time or incentive to randomly hack beforehand.

Yes, I've seen hacked cartridges. On eBay. Where their obvious purpose is to make money. I have to assume this is also the motivation behind ROM websites rather than out of the goodness of their hearts, and if they hack games, people could start to realize this and won't go there and view their ads anymore. They'll lose money, and they won't get anything else in return except maybe some laughs that they irritated a few people, which they probably didn't even do if they're hacking it to do something irrelevant like display more shiny Pokemon.

If you're getting your ROMs from some weird Pokemon site where the owners are just having fun hacking the game and want to show people their work, I guess that's different, but you'd have to specifically search one out that had increased the shiny rate and changed nothing else, and then I doubt they'd hide that fact, so Grimdour would be able to say it as fact instead of just as something he's pretty sure of for some reason, and most people are just looking for the normal ROM and in that case it's much easier to just go to an average ROM site where they quite likely don't have the time or incentive to randomly hack games before hand.

It's doubtful anyone would search out a ROM like that, anyway, since ROMs are usually played on the computer where you couldn't even trade your special Pokemon to a real game.

And I suppose you could get a hacked ROM if that was your thing, but that doesn't really change what I said, which is that your average ROM site has no reason to hack the games they give you. If Grimdour was talking about hacked ROMs, then that still doesn't mean a ROM site is likely to hack their games, it just make my post irrelevant. Like how saying "cat" starts with a c doesn't change just because it turns out they were talking about dogs all along.

(Also, sorry for writing a long and apparently irritable post)
 
Hiikaru: ... the hacks I mentioned were hacked ROMs. But yeah, I realized shortly after my post that what I said didn't quite match what was being talked about, but I didn't bother to change it.
 
Even on normal ROMs I've run into far more shinies than I would expect. I don't know, it's likely that the people who create the ROMs in the first place want to find more shinies or something so they mess with the coding before putting it up. It's not impossible, even if there's no 'incentive'.

Also, I don't think ROM sites would... lose money for increasing the rate of shiny Pokémon. It's not a game-breaking experience, only mildly irritating if you see one before you get Pokéballs or whatever. I'm not seeing the problem?
 
When I started my Crystal again recently, the first Poké I saw was a shiny Sentret. Long before you're even allowed to touch a Pokéball... it was also the first shiny I met myself except for a Golbat in Emerald(which I caught, and is now a Crobat) and a Zubat in Crystal that I had no Pokéballs to catch at the time, and I haven't seen a shiny ever since in any game.
This is what happened, pretty much: http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a68/sneaselmeepit/pokemoncrystal.png
 
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I've never seen a shiny before getting Pokéballs but I once found a Zubat and I just didn't have any.
 
aside from the R.G., i have seen my brother encounter a shiny zubat and be unable to catch it.
i have seen others but through ar means
 
I hear it's also possible that any of the wild Pokémon that serve as Pokémon-catching tutorials can be shiny.

Imagine Wally getting a blue Ralts... c_c
 
I hear it's also possible that any of the wild Pokémon that serve as Pokémon-catching tutorials can be shiny.

Imagine Wally getting a blue Ralts... c_c

Yes. Most frustrating thing ever: my friend was playing Leafgreen and watching Teachy TV, and the guy sent out a shiny Butterfree. Yes. We watched it again and it was normal. -sigh-
 
This has actually never happened to me (yet). I saw a shiny Oddish in the Safari Zone on sapphire and managed to catch it. On that same cartridge I found a shiny Whismur while looking for a Whismur for my in-game team and managed to catch that too. I guess catching shinies is the only part of the game that I actually get very lucky in.
 
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