Snom Mafia

[Novae]

admittedly most of my hesitation on voting SJ was popularity-based, but reading over the UC wagon (primarily sande with the late vote but also slight concerns about trebek) I decided that it felt like he was being pushed by scum, and MP7 pushing sande made me feel better about that

 

[Trebek]

i mean, do we think that the mafia are scared enough of popularity to let the vote go to rand? or are you implying that every mafia member was voting UC

also, this flavor now seems to be a popularity raise. if that’s coming from the same role as the popularity lower from N0, then i feel better now about that role being town: having the mafia be able to raise their popularity seems a tad unbalanced, unless the role has to alternate?

 

[Keldeo]

admittedly most of my hesitation on voting SJ was popularity-based, but reading over the UC wagon (primarily sande with the late vote but also slight concerns about trebek) I decided that it felt like he was being pushed by scum, and MP7 pushing sande made me feel better about that

Thanks! What do you mean by popularity-based hesitation, I'm not entirely sure I get what you're saying there?

You mentioned yesterday you were townreading me, and from this I gather that you're also townreading MP. Can you talk a bit about why?

 

[sanderidge]

fuck i forgot day started today

 

[sanderidge]

am i allowed to say fuck,

 

[Novae]

admittedly most of my hesitation on voting SJ was popularity-based, but reading over the UC wagon (primarily sande with the late vote but also slight concerns about trebek) I decided that it felt like he was being pushed by scum, and MP7 pushing sande made me feel better about that

Thanks! What do you mean by popularity-based hesitation, I'm not entirely sure I get what you're saying there?

You mentioned yesterday you were townreading me, and from this I gather that you're also townreading MP. Can you talk a bit about why?

I will not expand due to PR WIFOM:tm:

for you it was primarily to inflate your chances of being n1'd so I wouldn't have to solve you but I think both you and MP were being more proactive with your questioning/solving than I'd expect to see you as scum

 

[sanderidge]

- @sanderidge in 650 you say this:

this is a Good Poast and i feel good about trebek for it. there is literally nothing else i remember trebek posting so, uh, that's the Only Thing for me in their favor so far, but i feel like that's significant

but then list trebek as being somewhat suspicious not much later (in 722). wondering what your thought process is there

this was because i felt like that was the only thing that i felt okay about with trebek (vs ysabel who didn't have that Point In Favor). also tbh because when i was asked for suspicions i just looked at the list i posted earlier and picked out my Solid Neutrals and decided who i didn't like More.

Trebek and @Ysabel and @sanderidge, can you talk a little about your read on me after yesterday?

i feel like i'm supposed to have something to say here but i don't :'D

admittedly most of my hesitation on voting SJ was popularity-based, but reading over the UC wagon (primarily sande with the late vote but also slight concerns about trebek) I decided that it felt like he was being pushed by scum, and MP7 pushing sande made me feel better about that

(emphasis mine) pls help what does the italicized part mean

i mean, do we think that the mafia are scared enough of popularity to let the vote go to rand? or are you implying that every mafia member was voting UC

also, this flavor now seems to be a popularity raise. if that’s coming from the same role as the popularity lower from N0, then i feel better now about that role being town: having the mafia be able to raise their popularity seems a tad unbalanced, unless the role has to alternate?

fwiw this kind of post is the sort of thing that sticks out in my memory so i no longer feel that suspicious about trebek, and ysabel doing ISOs seems like a good and Solving Things thing to be doing... which makes it worse for me that i didn't do a superjolt iso yesterday lmao. but now i am at a (rowlet emoji) sort of place because i don't think i'm... reading people right? i voted for town and the people i didn't feel great about yesterday i feel more okay about now so i think i am probably making Bad Assumptions or reads somewhere.

 

[Novae]

(emphasis mine) pls help what does the italicized part mean

MP7's push on you made me feel like my scumread on you was more likely to be correct

 

[Keldeo]

i feel like i'm supposed to have something to say here but i don't :'D

Sorry, I don't understand. Do you have no read on me?

If you're worried that you're making bad assumptions or reads, where do you think you might be most likely to be wrong?

 

[Keldeo]

also, this flavor now seems to be a popularity raise. if that’s coming from the same role as the popularity lower from N0, then i feel better now about that role being town: having the mafia be able to raise their popularity seems a tad unbalanced, unless the role has to alternate?

I see what you're saying but I also think if the role isn't mandatory, I'm a bit :? at town choosing to decrease someone's popularity on night 0 with no information. I don't think I can speculate usefully about this role right now so I'll table it, but wanted to note that.

 

[sanderidge]

i feel like i'm supposed to have something to say here but i don't :'D

Sorry, I don't understand. Do you have no read on me?

If you're worried that you're making bad assumptions or reads, where do you think you might be most likely to be wrong?

this is going to sound like a really fucking bad excuse but i currently don't have a read on you because i don't remember very much about the thread - i'd need to reread before i could answer this

i think i might most likely be wrong where i assume people sound good because they're pointing out things that are Somewhat Useful that anyone could've picked up on? i've been avoiding trying to read people on tone so there's not really that to look at

i honestly probably just need to do an actual reread and take notes or something

 

[Keldeo]

this is going to sound like a really fucking bad excuse but i currently don't have a read on you because i don't remember very much about the thread - i'd need to reread before i could answer this

i think i might most likely be wrong where i assume people sound good because they're pointing out things that are Somewhat Useful that anyone could've picked up on? i've been avoiding trying to read people on tone so there's not really that to look at

i honestly probably just need to do an actual reread and take notes or something

No, that's okay! Take all the time you need.

Are you thinking of anyone specific with that second paragraph?

 

[Trebek]

also, this flavor now seems to be a popularity raise. if that’s coming from the same role as the popularity lower from N0, then i feel better now about that role being town: having the mafia be able to raise their popularity seems a tad unbalanced, unless the role has to alternate?

I see what you're saying but I also think if the role isn't mandatory, I'm a bit :? at town choosing to decrease someone's popularity on night 0 with no information. I don't think I can speculate usefully about this role right now so I'll table it, but wanted to note that.

yeah, i agree with that point. i just wanted to throw out my 2 cents on the roles alignment

 

[mewtini]

I'm a bit :? at town choosing to decrease someone's popularity on night 0 with no information

agree
what if there's not just one popularity-altering role?

 

[mewtini]

actually that would maybe be weird given that we didn't get the decrease AND increase on each night

 

[Trebek]

actually that would maybe be weird given that we didn't get the decrease AND increase on each night

yeah, my current vibe is that it’s one role

after reading keldeos post i’m largely convinced that if it’s one role, it has to alternate between increasing and decreasing bc

a) why would a town lower popularity arbitrarily on the first night

b) a mafia role that isn’t alternating would be way too strong imo

 

[Keldeo]

inb4 the popularity change songs are randomized and not the result of a role.

 

[Trebek]

inb4 the popularity change songs are randomized and not the result of a role.

loltrebek if thats the case tbh

 

[Keldeo]

Trebek, if you still think Superjolt was more likely to be town, where do you think we should be looking today? How do you read the people who joined each of the wagons if Superjolt is town vs. if Superjolt is mafia?

 

[Trebek]

Trebek, if you still think Superjolt was more likely to be town, where do you think we should be looking today? How do you read the people who joined each of the wagons if Superjolt is town vs. if Superjolt is mafia?

If Superjolt is mafia, then i would likely look at sande for the late vote onto UC, sort of like what Mist mentioned (and this would also kinda throw you and i under suspicion as well lol)

If the wagons are v/v, then i think i would actually be the most interested in people who didnt vote at all, but iirc that mostly lines up with people who were already inactive or had a societal Get Out Of Jail Free card from voting

so at the end of the day im still ?_? lmao