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oh it is! i just think it wouldn't be something that would be directly brought up like that by mafiaI also do think it's kind of obvious that the mafia know whether wagons affect their popularity and town don't, though that can all be WIFOMed.
mfwi just thought that his thought
Sure, e seems sincere enough and I'd like to let em talk about others and let things play out and all. If you think it's a "small, malleable lean", though, I think you read less confidence into eir statement of the read than I do. It was pretty ? to me because it seemed fairly confident, whereas I feel like I've definitely been in my mafia range so far.i kind of can see what you’re saying here. however (and i might be misremembering here) i feel like this kind of read isn’t unlike em to make, is it? my opinion will depend a lot on how willing e is to adjust that read. overall i don’t think it’s necessarily bad to form a small, malleable lean based on analyzing your posts by specific qualities, and eir explanation reads sincerely enough to me for now.
this is what i'd realized pretty much, i initially read it as a throwaway read (more similar to eir read on blu) but then when i went back it occurred to me that that was like, not the energy, and that it didn't totally jive with the more longterm-meta nature of the read. but i also read em as sincere enough so far, idkIt was pretty ? to me because it seemed fairly confident, whereas I feel like I've definitely been in my mafia range so far
i'm also assuming this! i don't know why no one else has wondered how much it's lowered your popularity by, bc that's something i was thinking on my reread, but i guess lowering your popularity immediately to a level where you lose night actions is overpowered and cruel? so i am sitting on the assumption that you are at -1 popularity because of thati'm assuming that the diss track lowered my popularity, right? is everyone else also assuming that.
(i snipped some parts of the post that i'm not replying to/concerned about out, but hopefully those are Allowed Changes within a quote)Personally, I feel like we probably don't lose much by executing and voting as normal. I'm sure the popularity mechanic was balanced with the possibility of normal wagons and misvotes in mind, and I feel like consensus wagons usually kill town, but of course it depends. I do not think we should abstain - the numbers are pretty tight assuming there are 3 mafia, so I think we should take every chance we can get.
@sanderidge, what do you like about Ysabel's voting idea?
@Bluwiikoon, how do you feel about playing as the mafia alignment?
i am not entirely sure what this means so for clarification: this means we could ignore popularity entirely so that no one would exhibit iffiness about popularity mechanics which would betray I Have A Night Role I Want To Use which the mafia could pick up on and get at, right?Or we could ignore popularity entirely in order to stop mafia from being able to PR hunt as well tbh
i don't find anything iffy in pages 1-8 :'D it doesn't seem like people are really interacting with each other that much before you posted that? is there something i'm supposed to be picking up on...If you have a moment at some point, do you think you could have a quick pass over the last few pages and see if you notice any interactions that jump out to you as possibly w/w?
if e clings to the read or keeps reading too far into little things i’ll certainly agree, but for now i don’t think it’s unlikely that e was just looking forward to analyzing your posts and holding them up to your meta, and got excited that e could work out some kind of read from it.Snooloo flops.
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I guess mewtini thinking out loud while trying to read koko can be town.
Sure, e seems sincere enough and I'd like to let em talk about others and let things play out and all. If you think it's a "small, malleable lean", though, I think you read less confidence into eir statement of the read than I do. It was pretty ? to me because it seemed fairly confident, whereas I feel like I've definitely been in my mafia range so far.i kind of can see what you’re saying here. however (and i might be misremembering here) i feel like this kind of read isn’t unlike em to make, is it? my opinion will depend a lot on how willing e is to adjust that read. overall i don’t think it’s necessarily bad to form a small, malleable lean based on analyzing your posts by specific qualities, and eir explanation reads sincerely enough to me for now.
yeah, that was me! i guess i just have my doubts about running like a ... voting simulation, and then somehow getting reps to vote according to that, while maintaining the pressure of the real thing. and the popularity tradeoff stuff doesn't seem worth losing all of that to me :Ti think it was mewtini that said they like the Organic Feel of eod with switching and vote analysis anyway, but if we just proceed as if we were really voting while voting for someone for the representative to vote for (i hope that makes sense) i feel like you could get that analysis and avoid a lot of people possibly losing powers overnight?
yeah mist clarified later that that was what they meanti am not entirely sure what this means so for clarification: this means we could ignore popularity entirely so that no one would exhibit iffiness about popularity mechanics which would betray I Have A Night Role I Want To Use which the mafia could pick up on and get at, right?
i can see why you'd think that though i think it's pretty par for the course for him (also tbh i'm glad he asked blu that)also is it just me or does that last question keldeo asked sound really loaded?!
i don’t disagree with this thinking but i think it’s more productive to worry about that when losing our night actions is a more immediate threat. some people getting docked one point today isn’t the end of the world, and if there’s a role that decreases popularity arbitrarily, i assume (or hope) that there’s one that increases it too, right? i’d rather not do this rep thing or whatever today, and instead just play normally for now. there’ll always be time to fret about the popularity issue once it’s more of... an issue.i'm worried about voting as normal because if we vote wrong twice, any of us who voted that way will lose night actions, which sounds Not Great?
not yet :'D i think i'm going to come across as waffly for the entire game bc tbh i am scared of making reads (what if i'm wrong?! what if i defend the wrong people?!) but hopefully that's currently understandable with not a lot going on. maybe more things will happen tomorrow (not toMorrow)! but i'm still feeling very new to the style of "let's read people" so i don't want to be like "i'll have a tierlist by tomorrow!" because, uh, idk if i will.sande do you have any Vibechecks so far?
okay yeah i think this makes a lot of sense. i'm starting to go back and forth on the rep thing tbh because i'm starting to doubt that we'd be able to actually get meaningful votes in that way (that person would have to remember to check the thread in time + if we pick mafia, they might get in a free Lynch Whoever I Want in exchange for us lynching them the next day, which could be really bad).i don’t disagree with this thinking but i think it’s more productive to worry about that when losing our night actions is a more immediate threat. some people getting docked one point today isn’t the end of the world, and if there’s a role that decreases popularity arbitrarily, i assume (or hope) that there’s one that increases it too, right? i’d rather not do this rep thing or whatever today, and instead just play normally for now. there’ll always be time to fret about the popularity issue once it’s more of... an issue.
Hmm? I meant "how do you feel about wolfing in general", not like, "how do you do, Mr. Wolf?" I try to not load my questions, haha.also is it just me or does that last question keldeo asked sound really loaded?!
Dang Keldeo out here wigging me already@Bluwiikoon, how do you feel about playing as the mafia alignment?
omg.... keldeo was a towny king in tropes!How goes your third game of being mafia aligned?
Oooo!! That would probably be an interesting experience I think being able to communicate with some pals would ease my mind a bit, but then again, having to shank friends would be like (crying kid holding gun meme image)omg.... keldeo was a towny king in tropes!How goes your third game of being mafia aligned?
but also i think he meant being mafia-aligned as a concept.
oh no i know, i was just being facetious and saying that this would hypothetically be his second wolfgame :pI'm only joke about mafia Keldeo!