qenya
formerly kokorico
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- she/her
I mean it worked though
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Tarot Mafia
- Thread starter Vipera Magnifica
- Start date
Keldeo
Resolute
- Pronoun
- he, they
What a wild game hahaha. Congrats mafia, and thank you Von and Tofu for hosting!
Other town, I'm sorry - I feel like I should have been able to get there with the cards I was dealt, and it's on me that I didn't. I'd like to apologize particularly to Butterfree for not believing you until it was too late, and for actually having a small dog.
Also, @Seshas, I have to know now, how is Mega Ampharos a jailer :O
Other town, I'm sorry - I feel like I should have been able to get there with the cards I was dealt, and it's on me that I didn't. I'd like to apologize particularly to Butterfree for not believing you until it was too late, and for actually having a small dog.
It's alright, you did what you needed to! Knowing when to do nothing is a valid skill as mafia.
Also, @Seshas, I have to know now, how is Mega Ampharos a jailer :O
Zori
nya~
- Pronoun
- she/her
Mega Ampharos is the Hierophant on the Pokemon Tarot Deck I have!
The rest was just claiming my actual role (though mafia)!
Mr. Ultracool
Blasts off at the speed of light!
- Pronoun
- he
Zori
nya~
- Pronoun
- she/her
You gave me a swordI actually wound up giving the Mafia a Sword
I just sort of
died
JackPK
blame telegram
- Pronoun
- he/him
oh I also want to apologize to @Butterfree in particular for trying to manipulate her with the same role claim... I didn’t mean for that to happen, or to target you specifically! but then you claimed, and it was the same thing I had crumbed (thinking it would be a role that probably no one had), and I had to make a snap decision whether or not to abandon my crumbs 
Vipera Magnifica
Aquatic Artiste
- Pronoun
- he/him
some post-game thoughts
Well this was a wildly entertaining game! It ran a bit shorter than I expected, thanks to the carnage that happened on D2, but was no less entertaining to host. The mafia had some crazy luck due to a series of coincidences that happened, but I still feel like they played their *cough cough* cards right to achieve that victory. As much as it looked like they were way ahead by D3, stuff like Emmy counterclaiming doctor could have drastically changed how that day played out.
Now of course I have to talk about Ultracool! When I included this role I thought it would be the wildcard that would ultimately help the town a lot more than the mafia, but it was a big surprise that no townies ever got to use an item. Seshas claiming watcher, then jailing Ultracool on N1 and dying after getting a sword really made a difference in how people viewed the role. When storm inspected Ultracool and I had to RNG to see what item the mafia would get, I cannot overstate how lucky they were to get a sword. Keldeo's role alone should have been a big hint to the town that the Wheel of Fortune role was real, but in his position I'm not sure how I'd feel if I didn't get an item after visiting the one role that should have guaranteed an item. It would have been possible to extend the game into another day by stealing storm's sword before she could use it, but of course Keldeo would have no way of using it. Keldeo got a pentacle on N3 and then immediately died, which fits the recurring theme of townies dying just as they figure out the truth (here's looking at you MF)
What really astounds me is that mewtini's ability never came into effect. I designed this game to have three roles that passively perform an action on those who target them: one scum, one town, and one third-party. I'll get to Stryke's role in a minute but I honestly expected some silencing to happen in this game. How would people respond when someone appeared to be silenced after a day of no one being silenced, or two people being silenced at once? This game, being one with only power roles, was meant to have some interesting interactions as such.
I found it interesting that the Death arcana was never talked about in game. rari's role, though seemingly not that powerful in its own right, was meant to be a mysterious informant of sorts that would alert the town to the existence of poison and the Mark of Death. Similarly, Emmy was given info about the Mark of Death that was never shared, so the town had no way to know about it! I felt a bit sad for Stryke who wasn't getting any visitors for the first two nights, making it hard to actually do anything that would contribute towards his win condition, despite having one of the biggest obstacles (Strength) removed for him on N0. In retrospect, I might have added a visiting action onto one or two more town roles, but I was trying to keep Wheel of Fortune from being too OP, so I kept the number of roles with a visiting action to a little over half, for the sake of balance. Once the Mark of Death took off though, it really started to spread, and honestly if the game had gone on one more day I think Stryke could have won as well. When I made the role (admittedly inspired by some of the roles from Monster Seeking Monster) I wasn't sure whether to have the role be a singular third-party win like alien, or win alongside either faction, and in the end I went with the latter, because I figured the role had the potential to be seriously overpowered and it wouldn't be very fun for the town and mafia if Death just snatched a win away from them right at the end (this was, of course, the correct choice). I would have definitely changed the flavor text to be a lot more ominous if Death had achieved a joint victory, though.
I think it goes without saying that RNP was the true MVP of this game. Using the role in an unexpected way to secure an additional kill for the mafia? That was a stroke of brilliance, and even when he was messaging me to ask if it would technically work, I never actually believed it was going to work. I don't think I've ever seen an outgroup mafia have such an impact on the course of a mafia game before, but I think this was the biggest event that contributed towards the eventual mafia win. Taking down both the vigilante and alien with him seriously helped the mafia's odds and swung the momentum heavily in their favor after losing Trebek on D1.
I think I might have tweaked one or two roles in retrospect, but overall I'm happy with how this game played out. In a game with so many town power roles, the mafia has to be given a little bit more firepower to balance it out, but it was quite surprising how quickly a lot of those power roles were neutralized. This was a game that could have swung drastically one way or another, and even right until the end there was still a fair chance for the town to win. Imagine how this game would have gone if everyone went and got an item from Ultracool N0 or N1. Very differently.
I still find it hilarious that Jack was planning right from the start to claim governor, despite there being a governor-type role in the game. I thought that would be the unluckiest break for the mafia, but Jack still managed to stick to his plan and claim governor in such a way that people believed him. Also, not sure if he's pointed this out, but look through Jack's ISO, and look at the first letter of each of his initial posts. You won't be disappointed.
All in all, this was a fantastic game to host, and I think everyone played very well! I enjoyed having the chance to do a bit more flavor writing than usual (I was really getting into my little narrative), and Tofu enjoyed making the Von draw-overs and getting to watch people try and figure out each other's roles. I'm glad people enjoyed this game, and I'd love to host another game like it sometime in the future. Thanks everyone!
Now of course I have to talk about Ultracool! When I included this role I thought it would be the wildcard that would ultimately help the town a lot more than the mafia, but it was a big surprise that no townies ever got to use an item. Seshas claiming watcher, then jailing Ultracool on N1 and dying after getting a sword really made a difference in how people viewed the role. When storm inspected Ultracool and I had to RNG to see what item the mafia would get, I cannot overstate how lucky they were to get a sword. Keldeo's role alone should have been a big hint to the town that the Wheel of Fortune role was real, but in his position I'm not sure how I'd feel if I didn't get an item after visiting the one role that should have guaranteed an item. It would have been possible to extend the game into another day by stealing storm's sword before she could use it, but of course Keldeo would have no way of using it. Keldeo got a pentacle on N3 and then immediately died, which fits the recurring theme of townies dying just as they figure out the truth (here's looking at you MF)
What really astounds me is that mewtini's ability never came into effect. I designed this game to have three roles that passively perform an action on those who target them: one scum, one town, and one third-party. I'll get to Stryke's role in a minute but I honestly expected some silencing to happen in this game. How would people respond when someone appeared to be silenced after a day of no one being silenced, or two people being silenced at once? This game, being one with only power roles, was meant to have some interesting interactions as such.
I found it interesting that the Death arcana was never talked about in game. rari's role, though seemingly not that powerful in its own right, was meant to be a mysterious informant of sorts that would alert the town to the existence of poison and the Mark of Death. Similarly, Emmy was given info about the Mark of Death that was never shared, so the town had no way to know about it! I felt a bit sad for Stryke who wasn't getting any visitors for the first two nights, making it hard to actually do anything that would contribute towards his win condition, despite having one of the biggest obstacles (Strength) removed for him on N0. In retrospect, I might have added a visiting action onto one or two more town roles, but I was trying to keep Wheel of Fortune from being too OP, so I kept the number of roles with a visiting action to a little over half, for the sake of balance. Once the Mark of Death took off though, it really started to spread, and honestly if the game had gone on one more day I think Stryke could have won as well. When I made the role (admittedly inspired by some of the roles from Monster Seeking Monster) I wasn't sure whether to have the role be a singular third-party win like alien, or win alongside either faction, and in the end I went with the latter, because I figured the role had the potential to be seriously overpowered and it wouldn't be very fun for the town and mafia if Death just snatched a win away from them right at the end (this was, of course, the correct choice). I would have definitely changed the flavor text to be a lot more ominous if Death had achieved a joint victory, though.
I think it goes without saying that RNP was the true MVP of this game. Using the role in an unexpected way to secure an additional kill for the mafia? That was a stroke of brilliance, and even when he was messaging me to ask if it would technically work, I never actually believed it was going to work. I don't think I've ever seen an outgroup mafia have such an impact on the course of a mafia game before, but I think this was the biggest event that contributed towards the eventual mafia win. Taking down both the vigilante and alien with him seriously helped the mafia's odds and swung the momentum heavily in their favor after losing Trebek on D1.
I think I might have tweaked one or two roles in retrospect, but overall I'm happy with how this game played out. In a game with so many town power roles, the mafia has to be given a little bit more firepower to balance it out, but it was quite surprising how quickly a lot of those power roles were neutralized. This was a game that could have swung drastically one way or another, and even right until the end there was still a fair chance for the town to win. Imagine how this game would have gone if everyone went and got an item from Ultracool N0 or N1. Very differently.
I still find it hilarious that Jack was planning right from the start to claim governor, despite there being a governor-type role in the game. I thought that would be the unluckiest break for the mafia, but Jack still managed to stick to his plan and claim governor in such a way that people believed him. Also, not sure if he's pointed this out, but look through Jack's ISO, and look at the first letter of each of his initial posts. You won't be disappointed.
All in all, this was a fantastic game to host, and I think everyone played very well! I enjoyed having the chance to do a bit more flavor writing than usual (I was really getting into my little narrative), and Tofu enjoyed making the Von draw-overs and getting to watch people try and figure out each other's roles. I'm glad people enjoyed this game, and I'd love to host another game like it sometime in the future. Thanks everyone!
Herbe
the dave of guy
- Pronoun
- xe/xem (plural)
Governor Oat
Vipera Magnifica
Aquatic Artiste
- Pronoun
- he/him
just the ones that @Tofu drew for this game!
she drew over The World when the game started then we looked at the minor arcana and decided which cards would be fun to draw over.
Vipera Magnifica
Aquatic Artiste
- Pronoun
- he/him
would have been pretty funny if I breadcrumbed this earlier in the game
Trebek
tax fraud
- Pronoun
- he/him
thanks for hosting! even tho i got memed on D1 it was still super exciting to follow along: i had to keep reminding myself that i couldn’t talk in scumchat lmao
that would’ve been awkward lmao
that would’ve been awkward lmao
JackPK
blame telegram
- Pronoun
- he/him
highlights from scumchat
i wish i could react to reacts
tfw rnp is more successful as mafia than the entire ingroup mafia combined so far
god what if emmy is our outgroup
Trebek
tax fraud
- Pronoun
- he/him
iconic tbhhighlights from scumchat
i wish i could react to reacts
tfw rnp is more successful as mafia than the entire ingroup mafia combined so fargod what if emmy is our outgroup
