Gym Leader Choice Pokémafia 2 - Game Thread

[bruh moment]

also ftr i brought up the stored kills/badges theory but i don't really subscribe to it
though i also suspect that badge distribution strat might not matter yet anyway
-m

 

[Bluwiikoon]

This is what I get for not catching up with ooctvt omg!! SCORE

Look after yourself mewtini my friend!!! ^^

 

[Hydreigon25]

i have reason to believe that the ones that truly give out 1 or 2 badges after death, apparently would be the first few targets that the mafia ( or out-group ) would suggest who to yeet on day 1 &/or day 2 , so for the time being i think the best course of action will be for town is to think things over before making any hasty decisions

 

[Vipera Magnifica]

VM does your role stop your target from making an action, or is it solely a redirect? :O If you don't wanna disclose that, that's fine too!

It won't affect their action, unless they self-target, I suppose?

 

[Herbe]

Unless M&F really wants to turn around the wolf winstreak, hehe!

hey hey. the wolf winstreak died! town won ooctvt and i am still VERY hyped about it. maybe this could be the dawn of a town winstreak ...

town also won power plant pokemafia :3

 

[Mawile]

town also won power plant pokemafia :3

*herbe won power plant pokemafia

 

[JackPK]

hastily assembled vote count (pls correct if I missed any):

Ultracool (2): VM (#206), Herbe (#228)
zori (1): rari (#96)
VM (1): RNP (#190)

vote not placed (14): Mawile, Bluwii, ZM, Ultracool, myuma, Stryke, Tofu, Negrek, koko, Zori, bruh, Hydrei, Jack, Ysabel

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I didn't really see much of anything in Ultracool's ISO that jumped out at me that didn't already jump out on the first readthrough of the thread. However, it did lead me to a tangential question I'm curious about:

Do we think we want to share how many badges we dispense when we die? Or do we suspect that might be something mafia could use strategically so we don't want to give them that info?

I have a wild theory I'd like to speculate on if we do want to massclaim badge numbers, but if we don't then my theory is pointless and not worth bothering to bring up

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For now, I don't like Ultracool's posts so far and I like having him as one of the wagons, but I fundamentally don't feel comfortable with the prospect of one wagon skyrocketing past all the others (barring when there's a redcheck or counterclaim or other overt evidence), so I will refrain from placing my vote for now

 

[Mr. Ultracool]

For now, I don't like Ultracool's posts so far and I like having him as one of the wagons

What am I doing wrong? Did I claimeow too soon?

 

[Herbe]

i love ultracool's in thread presence and MAGNIFICENT cat puns and my vote was mostly a joke vote
that said, i dont think he's a bad yeet candident

 

[Herbe]

y'all ever noticed that I can't spell for shit?

 

[Vipera Magnifica]

There's something else I wanted to ask about that's kind of slipped under the radar.

So... you think I could have made myself a Mafia-target meow? I sure hope so I'm capable of targeting meowself, so I can find out who led the kill if they do. And then I can give out the Earthbadge to that player, or to someowne else in a way to indicate who led the Mafkill

What exactly was your idea when suggesting this? Were you saying you would give badges to the person who killed you? Since it doesn't seem like it's announced who gets the badges, how exactly would giving badges to the mafia accomplish anything except giving the mafia more firepower? Surely you thought of this before suggesting such a play?

 

[JackPK]

For now, I don't like Ultracool's posts so far and I like having him as one of the wagons

What am I doing wrong? Did I claimeow too soon?

I mean the cat puns are great! I just really don't like the early push for claims (#115) + suggesting an inactive yeet (#182)

 

[Vipera Magnifica]

And if you planned to give a badge to someone else "in a way to indicate who led the Mafkill", how exactly would you do this?

 

[Tofu]

fwiw Ultracool's posts didn't really stand out to me as weird, but, it could just be because I am automatically more trusting because his watching ability (or whatever it is) was confirmed (in a sort of roundabout way because of the redirect) by both Blu and vm.

There's something else I wanted to ask about that's kind of slipped under the radar.

So... you think I could have made myself a Mafia-target meow? I sure hope so I'm capable of targeting meowself, so I can find out who led the kill if they do. And then I can give out the Earthbadge to that player, or to someowne else in a way to indicate who led the Mafkill

What exactly was your idea when suggesting this? Were you saying you would give badges to the person who killed you? Since it doesn't seem like it's announced who gets the badges, how exactly would giving badges to the mafia accomplish anything except giving the mafia more firepower? Surely you thought of this before suggesting such a play?

I didn't really see UC's above post when it was originally posted but I would also argue that, if Ultracool were mafia, why would he want to die and be killed by them just to distribute a badge or two (I still think watcher, or whatever his role is, could be useful and it already opened up interesting dialogue for today)? I'm not sure mafia would want to self-sacrifice to themselves, but, idk

Although the post is confusing to me. Like obviously whoever killed UC wouldn't announce it?

And if you planned to give a badge to someone else "in a way to indicate who led the Mafkill", how exactly would you do this?

I'm guessing the player would get a pm saying they got a badge, BUT, I don't know if they would know who it came from. However, I think, if there was text saying "You got a bug badge" or "You got an earth badge" you could tell who gave it to you. If M&F includes the type of badge in the pm, that is.

 

[Vipera Magnifica]

I didn't really see UC's above post when it was originally posted but I would also argue that, if Ultracool were mafia, why would he want to die and be killed by them just to distribute a badge or two (I still think watcher, or whatever his role is, could be useful and it already opened up interesting dialogue for today)? I'm not sure mafia would want to self-sacrifice to themselves, but, idk

Although the post is confusing to me. Like obviously whoever killed UC wouldn't announce it?

I don't think a mafia!UC ever planned to do such a thing, but I can see mafia!UC suggesting something like this to appear to be trying to help town.

 

[bruh moment]

I have a wild theory I'd like to speculate on if we do want to massclaim badge numbers, but if we don't then my theory is pointless and not worth bothering to bring up

for posterity. we also have a theory about this
(it would be really funny if they were the same theory,)

I just really don't like the early push for claims (#115) + suggesting an inactive yeet (#182)

agree that they were kind of weird. in re: push for claims, what made you come around on seshas?

I'm not sure mafia would want to self-sacrifice to themselves, but, idk

ah, unless there was no genuine intention to self-sacrifice (if he's mafia, it's not like he'd ever actually get factional-killed, right.)
-m

 

[Mr. Ultracool]

There's something else I wanted to ask about that's kind of slipped under the radar.

So... you think I could have made myself a Mafia-target meow? I sure hope so I'm capable of targeting meowself, so I can find out who led the kill if they do. And then I can give out the Earthbadge to that player, or to someowne else in a way to indicate who led the Mafkill

What exactly was your idea when suggesting this? Were you saying you would give badges to the person who killed you? Since it doesn't seem like it's announced who gets the badges, how exactly would giving badges to the mafia accomplish anything except giving the mafia more firepower? Surely you thought of this before suggesting such a play?

Of course! Right meow, the best I managed to come up with giving the Badge to the person below the leader of the meowfiakill on that list of players that was posted on Page 1

 

[Vipera Magnifica]

There's something else I wanted to ask about that's kind of slipped under the radar.

So... you think I could have made myself a Mafia-target meow? I sure hope so I'm capable of targeting meowself, so I can find out who led the kill if they do. And then I can give out the Earthbadge to that player, or to someowne else in a way to indicate who led the Mafkill

What exactly was your idea when suggesting this? Were you saying you would give badges to the person who killed you? Since it doesn't seem like it's announced who gets the badges, how exactly would giving badges to the mafia accomplish anything except giving the mafia more firepower? Surely you thought of this before suggesting such a play?

Of course! Right meow, the best I managed to come up with giving the Badge to the person below the leader of the meowfiakill on that list of players that was posted on Page 1

What if the person below them was also mafia?

 

[Mawile]

Of course! Right meow, the best I managed to come up with giving the Badge to the person below the leader of the meowfiakill on that list of players that was posted on Page 1

what if they're mafia too

 

[Mr. Ultracool]

Also, if someowne has a better plan, I'd love to hear it - there's so meowny things that could go wrong there if there are two mafia members right below meowne another...