Cats (2019) Mafia

[qenya]

eehhhhh

it hasn't escaped my notice that we're approaching EoD and herbe hasn't answered my question yet, though in fairness don't think he's been online yet

also this makes sense as an explanation:

So, the way I see the Herbe situation is: Indigo’s cop claim puts the mafia in trouble: there is probably at least one doctor in the game, no danger of a healer clash so zero reason doctors wouldn’t heal Indigo, so the mafia is highly unlikely to be able to actually nightkill her. The mafia has two ways out: somehow get Emmy lynched despite the claim, or divert healers onto someone else. And... conveniently, suddenly Herbe appears, attempting both those things?

tentatively parking on herbe for now, though I don't promise not to change my mind later if he comes back and says something convincing

 

[Tangrowth]

Opened up Herbe's ISO, and I have a silly read, but...

omg you're fucking kidding me, mawile died???? my best friend and pal mawile is kill???????

guess I'll just have to hang out with my other best friend and pal, mewtini (when do we get to the part where you scumread me?)

Can someone better inform me what Herbe's mafia history is like? and/or if this kind of reaction is typically over-the-top? Because... I got a bit of a ping that this could be newbie scum entrance of ZOMG SOMEONE KILLED MY FRIEND feel, which I have actually seen on occasion.

 

[Tangrowth]

Okay, that read may be negated a bit just by how expressive Herbe is in general, if the posting here is more typical than AI.

 

[Keldeo]

Spoiler

If Herbe is mafia, I think he was probably bussed if he goes over instead of Ultracool. I think Trebek and Blu are the most likely to be bussers given their wagon position and how they maneuvered around the vote, but I'm not discounting any weirdness that happens in the next hour

I also think Herbe/Blu being mafia partners makes Butterfree like, even more super likely to be town, but ask me about this one later because that's a lot of moving parts

 

[mewtini]

Can someone better inform me what Herbe's mafia history is like? and/or if this kind of reaction is typically over-the-top? Because... I got a bit of a ping that this could be newbie scum entrance of ZOMG SOMEONE KILLED MY FRIEND feel, which I have actually seen on occasion.

that's NAI memeing
he and mawile were scumbuddies with a really tight bond in the last game they played together

 

[Vipera Magnifica]

if herbe flips red, there’s also the implication of who did he actually investigate, since he can easily leak any mafia role names that could come across as NAI, and instead investigate other people secretly. that’s a tinfoil hat that i am not going to devote any more thought to unless he flips red though

this has been bothering me

 

[Tangrowth]

Can someone better inform me what Herbe's mafia history is like? and/or if this kind of reaction is typically over-the-top? Because... I got a bit of a ping that this could be newbie scum entrance of ZOMG SOMEONE KILLED MY FRIEND feel, which I have actually seen on occasion.

that's NAI memeing
he and mawile were scumbuddies with a really tight bond in the last game they played together

Ah, so there goes that, thanks mew.

 

[qenya]

I’m not sure we should quite trust in the cats being alignment-indicative in general (I imagine Macavity is mafia, but otherwise it’s probably a toss-up).

also: if herbe is a rolecop, who's to say he doesn't get cat names as well? he could have targeted Mawile on n0, knowing that Mawile was going to be nightkilled in order to find out Mawile's cat name (Victoria), giving the mafia a name they could easily claim later with no risk of being counterclaimed

it's a bit sketchy as theories go, but imo even more reason not to treat his cat name as alignment-indicative

 

[Tangrowth]

Spoiler

If Herbe is mafia, I think he was probably bussed if he goes over instead of Ultracool. I think Trebek and Blu are the most likely to be bussers given their wagon position and how they maneuvered around the vote, but I'm not discounting any weirdness that happens in the next hour

I also think Herbe/Blu being mafia partners makes Butterfree like, even more super likely to be town, but ask me about this one later because that's a lot of moving parts

Why was this spoilered? Not that I mind, the spoiler here is cool.

 

[rari_teh]

it hasn't escaped my notice that we're approaching EoD and herbe hasn't answered my question yet, though in fairness don't think he's been online yet

he posted this yesterday

I've got a lot going on in my personal life right now, I might have to go flora-esque and check out of the game for a couple days. sorry everyone

so i guess it’s unlikely he’ll be appearing before being cellar’d

 

[mewtini]

he could have targeted Mawile on n0, knowing that Mawile was going to be nightkilled in order to find out Mawile's cat name (Victoria), giving the mafia a name they could easily claim later with no risk of being counterclaimed

wait, what? isn't this when he grabbed butterfree's fishing brother role

 

[Tangrowth]

is cellar'd what were using instead of lynched? because I'm game for that if so, lmao

 

[qenya]

he could have targeted Mawile on n0, knowing that Mawile was going to be nightkilled in order to find out Mawile's cat name (Victoria), giving the mafia a name they could easily claim later with no risk of being counterclaimed

wait, what? isn't this when he grabbed butterfree's fishing brother role

I thought he said he targeted you n0 and butterfree n1

 

[mewtini]

he could have targeted Mawile on n0, knowing that Mawile was going to be nightkilled in order to find out Mawile's cat name (Victoria), giving the mafia a name they could easily claim later with no risk of being counterclaimed

wait, what? isn't this when he grabbed butterfree's fishing brother role

wait i'm misremembering, but -
he said he targeted me n0 and i'm pretty sure he does know my role, so i'm not with this train of thought

 

[mewtini]

ninja'd!

 

[Trebek]

just a vocab check, is bussing the term for scum upvoting other scum to try and self clear?

 

[rari_teh]

is cellar'd what were using instead of lynched? because I'm game for that if so, lmao

yes lmao

 

[mewtini]

wait. uhhhh. i think i just realized something. stay tuned while i try to figure out how to talk about it

just a vocab check, is bussing the term for scum upvoting other scum to try and self clear?

yup

 

[Trebek]

he could have targeted Mawile on n0, knowing that Mawile was going to be nightkilled in order to find out Mawile's cat name (Victoria), giving the mafia a name they could easily claim later with no risk of being counterclaimed

wait, what? isn't this when he grabbed butterfree's fishing brother role

wait i'm misremembering, but -
he said he targeted me n0 and i'm pretty sure he does know my role, so i'm not with this train of thought

i’m pretty sure koko’s thought process lies in the same speculate-space that mine was

aka mewt/herbe w/w, herbe gets a free investigate and throws mewts role out instead

 

[Keldeo]

he could have targeted Mawile on n0, knowing that Mawile was going to be nightkilled in order to find out Mawile's cat name (Victoria), giving the mafia a name they could easily claim later with no risk of being counterclaimed

wait, what? isn't this when he grabbed butterfree's fishing brother role

wait i'm misremembering, but -
he said he targeted me n0 and i'm pretty sure he does know my role, so i'm not with this train of thought

Yeah, I don't think that theory makes sense, koko. If mewtini was actually like... [insert role that appears on town much more than mafia] I don't think Herbe's claim about it would have made sense and that would have been the end of that.