Cats (2019) Mafia

[Tangrowth]

Can someone quickly supply me with... like really quick data as to Herbe meta, if they don't mind? I think it'd help me right now.

 

[Trebek]

i mean maybe, and this is extra speculation, v!herbe being rolecop is balanced out by there being a w!rolecop, who investigates seshas n0? is that what you’re thinking, mewt?

this seems like an awful lot of cops needed to make this theory work, compared

this is role madness tbh, so i wouldn’t say that his theory is too farfetched
there are six mafia after all

my speculation is also partially coming from the bias of playing on ToS where there are borderline zero vanilla roles, so cop+clashing rolecops happens almost guaranteed. obv that might not apply here, but just wanted to get my thoughts out

 

[kyeugh]

Tell me more about ILS/RNP? I thought RNP’s posting about Emmy read as fairly sincere.

i guess his posting felt... ok? i don’t feel that strongly about it and there are many other people i’m townleaning more heavily so he ends up close to the bottom; ils too. also isn’t he still voting on emmy anyway.

related question. why do we think seshas got nk'ed?

they lasted too long last time

 

[Keldeo]

Can someone quickly supply me with... like really quick data as to Herbe meta, if they don't mind? I think it'd help me right now.

He played a little old TCoDf mafia (very night action focused, low activity days) and then wasn't on TCoD for a while. His first game after coming back was the recently completed TVTropes Mafia, where he was mafia

 

[mewtini]

hmmmf
how significant/powerful of a role is (town) rolecop, is it really incompatible with there also being a cop on the town side

 

[Keldeo]

Tell me more about ILS/RNP? I thought RNP’s posting about Emmy read as fairly sincere.

i guess his posting felt... ok? i don’t feel that strongly about it and there are many other people i’m townleaning more heavily so he ends up close to the bottom; ils too. also isn’t he still voting on emmy anyway.

related question. why do we think seshas got nk'ed?

they lasted too long last time

Yeah that's what I'm saying about RNP, like, Emmy is really not going to be wagoned today so the uselessness of the vote makes it read somewhat more genuinely. Does that make sense?

 

[mewtini]

i'm sorry for being cryptic, i'm just thinking that [redacted]

 

[Novae]

I kinda agree with the keldeo take on RNP

 

[Tangrowth]

Can someone quickly supply me with... like really quick data as to Herbe meta, if they don't mind? I think it'd help me right now.

He played a little old TCoDf mafia (very night action focused, low activity days) and then wasn't on TCoD for a while. His first game after coming back was the recently completed TVTropes Mafia, where he was mafia

how would you summary the style of play there?

 

[Keldeo]

hmmmf
how significant/powerful of a role is (town) rolecop, is it really incompatible with there also being a cop on the town side

Not super powerful, but I think it would depend heavily on the roles that the mafia have and whether or not a rolecop could catch them out

I don't think it's actually incompatible with a cop with both being town, which is what I've been saying, but for Herbe specifically I'm still stuck with how he reacted/interacted with Emmy's claim.

 

[rari_teh]

Can someone quickly supply me with... like really quick data as to Herbe meta, if they don't mind? I think it'd help me right now.

I can vouch for his tvt game, in which he was extremely crafty and pocketed most people pretty soon
turns out that he was the Big Bad with an outgroup mafia as a mentor (mawile) with whom he had private comms. mawile became the prime lynchee D2, so herbe panicked and claimed lovers. when one Day later people decided to lynch mawile anyway bc I had a redcheck on him, he claimed that he wouldn’t die with mawile, just lose and become a bitter widower. that’s when most people started getting iffy about his alignment, but there were still some that held that he was just a 3p who had already lost the game. he lasted for a couple more days before being finally lynched.

 

[Trebek]

hmmmf
how significant/powerful of a role is (town) rolecop, is it really incompatible with there also being a cop on the town side

the way i see it, not incompatible at all. generally, rolecop has issues determining alignment, even if they know powers. cop does the exact opposite, so if they know of each others existence they offset each others weaknesses

 

[Tangrowth]

summarize, rather

 

[kyeugh]

hmmmf
how significant/powerful of a role is (town) rolecop, is it really incompatible with there also being a cop on the town side

tbh i think it’s just weird? i don’t really know that it’s super powerful, but if you have a cop that straight up checks alignment then i think a rolecop (who as a role is functionally more useful to the mafia) seems kind of... idk. why have one, it’s the same thing but worse and town doesn’t benefit that much from it. it is just kind of strange tbh

 

[mewtini]

Not super powerful, but I think it would depend heavily on the roles that the mafia have and whether or not a rolecop could catch them out

ok
i'm going to stand down then
maybe i will explain someday but i don't think i want to right now

 

[Tangrowth]

Can someone quickly supply me with... like really quick data as to Herbe meta, if they don't mind? I think it'd help me right now.

I can vouch for his tvt game, in which he was extremely crafty and pocketed most people pretty soon
turns out that he was the Big Bad with an outgroup mafia as a mentor (mawile) with whom he had private comms. mawile became the prime lynchee D2, so herbe panicked and claimed lovers. when one Day later people decided to lynch mawile anyway bc I had a redcheck on him, he claimed that he wouldn’t die with mawile, just lose and become a bitter widower. that’s when most people started getting iffy about his alignment, but there were still some that held that he was just a 3p who had already lost the game. he lasted for a couple more days before being finally lynched.

this is awesome, thank you rari

 

[kyeugh]

redundant is the word i’m looking for. i think it makes more sense for herbe to mafia than not

 

[Keldeo]

Like if the mafia roles are like, (examples) poisoner godfather roleblocker and another rolecop or something, then rolecop is very powerful because a result on those means guilty

If they're like, idk, doctor and bulletproof for some weird reason, rolecop is not powerful

 

[Trebek]

for all we know, role names could have been set up in this game so that rolecop has a super hard time gleaning alignment. is such a thing possible?

 

[Keldeo]

Tell me more about ILS/RNP? I thought RNP’s posting about Emmy read as fairly sincere.

i guess his posting felt... ok? i don’t feel that strongly about it and there are many other people i’m townleaning more heavily so he ends up close to the bottom; ils too. also isn’t he still voting on emmy anyway.

related question. why do we think seshas got nk'ed?

they lasted too long last time

Yeah that's what I'm saying about RNP, like, Emmy is really not going to be wagoned today so the uselessness of the vote makes it read somewhat more genuinely. Does that make sense?

Like I disagree with the take but I also disagreed with him blocking Stryke in TVTropes lol.