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Communism?

I have to agree with my history teacher on this one;

could work in theory, sucks in practice.

it might work better if humans weren't such bastards and actually ran the government the way they initially planned to, rather than taking all the power and making social classes (with them on top), which kinda defeats the purpose of communism.
 
TURBO FUCK I MISSED YOU AGAIN WHYYYYYYYYY

I think communism is interesting but it's pretty bollocks when it's in practise.

inb4 every post is the same
 
I don't know why everyone assumes that humans are bastards. It doesn't correspond with my day-to-day experience.
 
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Ruby said:
I don't know why everyone assumes that humans are bastards. It does not correspond with my day-to-day experience.
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We're not bastards, but we all have a little bastard in us. You know what they say: power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely!
 
departuresong et al. seem to conflate corruption by power with the notion that ordinary people are economically self-interested. I see those as two separate things. But in any case, if they are so frightened of power corrupting people, why do they accept the thousands of extraordinarily powerful people in the world now?
 
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If it crumbles so easily, it's hardly a good argument, is it?
 
It's easy to organize 'to each according to his need', but the 'from each according to his ability' part never works out. People are pigs, and capitalism fits this persona.
 
Sage Noctowl said:
It's easy to organize 'to each according to his need', but the 'from each according to his ability' part never works out.
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Most people don't work to the utmost limit of their ability in a capitalist society either. It may be true that productivity will tend to be higher under capitalism, but how much of it is wasted making frivolous and duplicate goods which really do not need to be made! Under socialism productivity might be lower, but our labours would be better focused.
 
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The brain washing has run further than I thought, it is time I cleanse your poor minds, for the Tsar if nothing else!!!

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Sage Noctowl said:
It's easy to organize 'to each according to his need', but the 'from each according to his ability' part never works out. People are pigs, and capitalism fits this persona.
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I wanna know why anticommunists never think about how if you don't work and take advantage of society, society will stop supporting you. Stop giving to the community and the community stops giving to you, etc. That stops this problem.

The "human nature" arguments also typically consist of nothing other than "human nature, therefore I win".

:/
 
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I wanna know why anticommunists never think about how if you don't work and take advantage of society, society will stop supporting you. Stop giving to the community and the community stops giving to you, etc. That stops this problem.
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So basically, if you work hard, you are rewarded, but if you don't, you get nothing.

Sounds an awful lot like -
 
Well, many communists think people should still be given shelter, healthcare, education, food, necessities etc, etc, basically the things that aren't a problem to get, non-scarce things, I guess I'd say. And some communists are in favor of labour vouchers.
And the reason many people don't work hard isn't usually just "they're lazy pigs", it goes deeper than that, I'm fairly sure you'd know what I mean. These problems (like poverty) would be fixed, rather than just "fuck it, let them starve"; this isn't the mentality I'm suggesting.
 
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